Good Day, On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 01:26:39AM +0100, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008, Peter Poeml wrote:
just a quick note - I don't know if Coolo has already mentioned it: openSUSE 10.2 (http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.2/) will soon be removed from our staging server, since it is not maintained anymore.
Whoever wants to keep it, should put a copy away now. Possibly add yourself to http://en.opensuse.org/Mirrors_Discontinued_Releases so that users can find it.
Sorry, I can't tell you a date for the removal at the moment, but I thought I'd better write it now, before it is forgotten, over releasing 11.1 and Christmas.
Don't you mean 10.3?
At least 10.2 disappeared already during November.
Oh, my bad. I may have caused quite some confusion here. I believed that I removed 10.2 only in some rsync modules, but not in all. But in fact, I excluded it in all rsync modules already. (That was a bit hastily done, a few weeks ago, and without prior notice) Sorry about that. I wanted to exclude it from mirroring to make room on mirrors for 11.1, and because 10.2 is hardly downloaded anymore. Thus, it is still available for users as before (via download.opensuse.org), but not on mirrors, which should be sufficient for the remaining users. The interest in install media and network installation of 10.2 is just very small now, after two years. Since 10.2 is still present on the stage server, just not in any rsync module, we can make it available of course. Just let me know.
The main question is: how long will opensuse/update be valid, and will we get information before something gets deleted?
We have lots of servers here which don't get updated in-time, so interest is huge to access the latest updates for the gone distribution.
Regarding updates, it is a different situation. First, we leave them there for much longer. 10.2 updates are in fact served from ftp.suse.com and its mirrors; 10.3 was the first that got its updates from openSUSE infrastructure (download.opensuse.org/update). I have no timeline for removal of those, but I don't think that we plan to remove 10.2/10.3 updates anytime soon. That's the reason why there are no 10.2 updates on download.opensuse.org; they have never been there. By the way, there is a virtual host called http://download.suse.com/ on download.o.o which redirects to http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/suse/ (sic), which has updates for 10.0-10.2 as far as I know. In general, as you probably know SUSE has stopped offering discontinued products a long time ago on their servers, since disk space was always short. Of course we keep the stuff internally, but disk space on ftp.suse.com and download.opensuse.org doesn't allow to keep it available for download. Since as long as I can remember, some servers as yours have been keeping those available in a "discontinued" directory and thereby done this service for us. These are the addresses that I have tried to collect at http://en.opensuse.org/Mirrors_Discontinued_Releases, and I just updated the page for 10.2. With Tobias Offermann from Host Europe I recently talked about this and we entertained the idea to consolidate this a little bit. We have a redirect from the old URL http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1/ to Host Europe to keep the old URL valid. We could do the same for 10.2 once its gone. Once any of the update tress on download.opensuse.org become historic, we can do the same, with those helpful mirrors that help us out! Thanks, Peter -- Contact: admin@opensuse.org (a.k.a. ftpadmin@suse.com) #opensuse-mirrors on freenode.net Info: http://en.opensuse.org/Mirror_Infrastructure SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Research & Development