Hi there,
I was told of this project: http://www.packagekit.org/ They aim to do a common interface for package and patch management for all distributions, which just need to hook their package system as a backend.
It doesn't seem to have a text interface, and it could be a problem with regard to the installation integration. It would still be nice to consider it. What do you think?
Cheers, Ricardo
Hi Ricardo!
Check zypp-devel@opensuse.org, PackageKit has already been brought up there. It can be interesting especially for updater applets (without requiring user to authenticate as root).
We are already digging into this topic.
Jiri
Dne Wednesday 24 of October 2007 13:59:36 Ricardo Cruz napsal(a):
Hi there,
I was told of this project: http://www.packagekit.org/ They aim to do a common interface for package and patch management for all distributions, which just need to hook their package system as a backend.
It doesn't seem to have a text interface, and it could be a problem with regard to the installation integration. It would still be nice to consider it. What do you think?
Cheers, Ricardo
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 02:29:51PM +0200, Jiri Srain wrote:
Hi Ricardo!
Check zypp-devel@opensuse.org, PackageKit has already been brought up there. It can be interesting especially for updater applets (without requiring user to authenticate as root).
... only after review and approval by security team of course.
Ciao, Marcus
Hi Ricardo,
On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 12:59 +0100, Ricardo Cruz wrote:
Hi there,
I was told of this project: http://www.packagekit.org/ They aim to do a common interface for package and patch management for all distributions, which just need to hook their package system as a backend.
It doesn't seem to have a text interface, and it could be a problem with regard to the installation integration. It would still be nice to consider it. What do you think?
I'm currently working on the basis of this. You need some updated packages for STABLE to compile PackageKit. I hope to have it running by the end of the week with the yum backend. After that we can look into creating a zypp backend. Should be fun!
Ongoings: look for home:joshkress:PackageKit in the buildservice. As soon as the tools are working with yum backend, I will post a howto in the wiki.
Josh
Qui, 2007-10-25 às 13:13 +0200, Joerg Kress escreveu:
Hi Ricardo,
On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 12:59 +0100, Ricardo Cruz wrote:
Hi there,
I was told of this project: http://www.packagekit.org/ They aim to do a common interface for package and patch management for all distributions, which just need to hook their package system as a backend.
It doesn't seem to have a text interface, and it could be a problem with regard to the installation integration. It would still be nice to consider it. What do you think?
I'm currently working on the basis of this. You need some updated packages for STABLE to compile PackageKit. I hope to have it running by the end of the week with the yum backend. After that we can look into creating a zypp backend. Should be fun!
Are we going to want to use PackageKit for Package Management as well?
Ricardo
Ongoings: look for home:joshkress:PackageKit in the buildservice. As soon as the tools are working with yum backend, I will post a howto in the wiki.
Josh
Joerg Kress jkress@suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg)
* Ricardo Cruz rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt [Oct 25. 2007 17:47]:
I'm currently working on the basis of this. You need some updated packages for STABLE to compile PackageKit. I hope to have it running by the end of the week with the yum backend. After that we can look into creating a zypp backend. Should be fun!
Are we going to want to use PackageKit for Package Management as well?
Yes, as it provides an easy (and community driven) way to make 'role based' systems management happen.
Klaus --- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg)
Qui, 2007-10-25 às 21:38 +0200, Klaus Kaempf escreveu:
- Ricardo Cruz rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt [Oct 25. 2007 17:47]:
I'm currently working on the basis of this. You need some updated packages for STABLE to compile PackageKit. I hope to have it running by the end of the week with the yum backend. After that we can look into creating a zypp backend. Should be fun!
Are we going to want to use PackageKit for Package Management as well?
Yes, as it provides an easy (and community driven) way to make 'role based' systems management happen.
When do you expect PackageKit to replace the current package management interfaces? Does it make sense to do any further work on yast-gtk's package selector at this point?
Thanks, Ricardo
Klaus
SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg)
* Ricardo Cruz rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt [Oct 26. 2007 01:58]:
When do you expect PackageKit to replace the current package management interfaces? Does it make sense to do any further work on yast-gtk's package selector at this point?
We are currently looking into this and appreciate any help we can get. (Hint, hint ;-))
Klaus --- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg)
Sex, 2007-10-26 às 09:14 +0200, Klaus Kaempf escreveu:
- Ricardo Cruz rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt [Oct 26. 2007 01:58]:
When do you expect PackageKit to replace the current package management interfaces? Does it make sense to do any further work on yast-gtk's package selector at this point?
We are currently looking into this and appreciate any help we can get. (Hint, hint ;-))
Whats the roadmap?
Something like this I guess: ? * add a zypp backend * extend the backend system so we can expose functionality like Patterns and Languages * improve the gtk and qt interfaces * add a text interface
Ricardo
Klaus
SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg)
Hi,
I just managed to build the latest dbus package that is needed for pk. Unfortunately it wasn't that trivial -- and it's far from perfect, but thoenig will surely improve it as soon as he is back from vacation.
I still have some things to fix. Pk compiles in my vm and the errors when running are now different (which means progress ;-)
This also means that it's unlikely that I will reach my milestone to install a package using pk with the yum backend.
I will continue to work on it over the weekend, as this is really bugging me. Maybe it will run by Monday so I can write up in the wiki what's needed to get PackageKit compile and run in the STABLE distribution.
Cheers,
Josh
On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 13:37 +0100, Ricardo Cruz wrote:
Sex, 2007-10-26 às 09:14 +0200, Klaus Kaempf escreveu:
- Ricardo Cruz rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt [Oct 26. 2007 01:58]:
When do you expect PackageKit to replace the current package management interfaces? Does it make sense to do any further work on yast-gtk's package selector at this point?
We are currently looking into this and appreciate any help we can get. (Hint, hint ;-))
Whats the roadmap?
Something like this I guess: ?
- add a zypp backend
- extend the backend system so we can expose functionality like Patterns
and Languages
- improve the gtk and qt interfaces
- add a text interface
Ricardo
Klaus
SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg)
On Friday 26 October 2007 01:49:52 Ricardo Cruz wrote:
When do you expect PackageKit to replace the current package management interfaces? Does it make sense to do any further work on yast-gtk's package selector at this point?
I think the mod-ui ports are more important prority to make all UIs survive change and time :-)
Duncan
Sex, 2007-10-26 às 11:39 +0200, Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett escreveu:
On Friday 26 October 2007 01:49:52 Ricardo Cruz wrote:
When do you expect PackageKit to replace the current package management interfaces? Does it make sense to do any further work on yast-gtk's package selector at this point?
I think the mod-ui ports are more important prority to make all UIs survive change and time :-)
What are the mod-ui ports? The effort to make yast-ui language independent?
Ricardo
Duncan
On Friday 26 October 2007 14:29, Ricardo Cruz wrote:
What are the mod-ui ports? The effort to make yast-ui language independent?
http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Events/Workshop_Prague_2007/Day_3#The_Mod-UI_.28...
CU
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