On 2014-05-01 03:59 (GMT-0400) Andrey Borzenkov composed:
÷ Wed, 30 Apr 2014 06:53:24 -0400 Felix Miata
> Also, I'm particularly unhappy that 13 month
has not been implemented,
grub2 defaults to os-prober disabled with exact the
same result as
requested - only entries for current OS are present in menu.
I wouldn't know what Grub2 under openSUSE does. As long as any installer offers an
option to install Grub Legacy, that's what I choose. When given only the choices no
bootloader at all or Grub2, I choose no bootloader at all. I'm sure I'm not the
one who prefers the simplicity of the vastly lighter weight Grub that never complains
about reliability when it can't commandeer the boot track, and never declares on boot
that the perfectly valid vga= cmdline option for gfxchips lacking KMS support is
As such times as I want to know about Grub2, I boot *buntu (which is almost the only
use I ever have for *buntu, or any Debian for that matter). So, I am familiar enough
with Grub2 to know I don't want it replacing Grub Legacy on any system that
require something that Grub Legacy cannot provide.
While most users apparently think that YaST is the most important openSUSE standout
against competitors, I find openSUSE's Grub Legacy Gfxboot menu another feature
without comparison, and a sleeping dog that for most users does not need to be awakened.
> which wouldn't even be needed if there was a
checkbox to say new bootloader is or is not to
> be the master bootloader (aka stanzas for any but new OS desired or necessary).
This could relatively easy be implemented by allowing
location" in bootloader dialog. This would avoid physically installing
bootloader while still generating all needed files. Actually, I believe
at least for grub2 this may work already - pbl just loops over locations
and installs on each one; if no location is selected, it should do
nothing. I'm just not sure whether YaST/glue libraries support it.
Something seems lost in translation. I don't want to have to choose between
installation of either no bootloader at all, or installation of a bootloader that
wants to be master of all systems installed. I want Grub Legacy on the / partition,
and would much prefer for it to get there the same way it has ever since before
openSUSE 10.0 was released, via YaST, and with the added simplicity of only the two
stanzas that unconditionally make sense for a new installation. I'm certainly capable
of managing my own systems' bootloaders without help of scripts or YaST, but to
assist over the phone, via email or in web forums I much prefer coaching people
through the overall simpler choice that is the senior Grub that only requires two
short and simple shell commands to set up, and without even having to mount the
target for them to work.
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
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