On Thu, 9 Feb 2017 11:45:27 +0100 Stefan Hundhammer <shundhammer@suse.de> wrote:

On 09.02.2017 10:04, Josef Reidinger wrote:

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Hi Ken, Ludwig, YaST Hackers, I work on providing new desktop selection dialog in installation according to https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/14936 . So after some tweaking and thinking I reuse roles dialog same as we had in SLES, just with desktop selection.

You can see result in https://github.com/yast/skelcd-control-openSUSE/pull/73 ( screenshots and videos ). What do you think about it? I welcome any feedback. I add there to comparison also old work-flow where is one screen with online repos which we currently integrate in desktop selection.

This discussion has been going in circles since at least 15 years. Most of the time, people thought it's a good idea to keep the concepts apart; server vs. workstation is a different concept than desktop selection (stretching the concept by including text mode there).

At some point in the past, the system roles involved into the software patterns. And I bet this will be the next thing that will be added little by little in that now redesigned dialog because there are different kinds of servers.

if we want different kind of servers then it should belong to next dialog after you select server role.

I'd avoid going down that road. It does not lead anywhere.

Well, if we keep direction I believe it will where we want and I hope we already learn from past. But it will be sad if result of previous experience is to give it up.

Desktop selection vs. system roles are completely orthogonal concepts. Mixing that up in this dialog will (not "might", definitely "will") cause wrong expectations. I am aware that right now it's just a wording issue, but we had that in the past, and this did spin off into a completely unexpected direction in the past just because of similar unlucky wording.

I would also avoid having that "add repos" thing there; it opens yet another completely different topic which does not belong there. Doing something like that in any follow-up dialog when somebody selects "other" is legitimate, but in this dialog it's very much misplaced.

But other and add repos are not related as add repos mean that you want to have more sources for installation and it works for all roles. I in video use it for "other" but it make sense for any of it. As you can see previously it was separated dialog which from my POV is very empty and does not look nice. This part was requested so it reduce number of steps and make more consistent UI. So for this reason placing it after selecting other is wrong from functional POV. Do you have other suggestion where it can be placed where anyone can select it? We do not have much more places and in definitivelly need to be placed before pattern selection screen as from additional repos can come also more patterns.

Kind regards

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