[yast-devel] Wizard contents alignment
Hi there, Vincent is requesting that the wizard contents come from the top when they don't fill the entire area (see fingerprint tool / bug 464902). From the style guide (http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Style_Guide): «Content area - Consists of a dialog definition. For some cases it is placed it the upper-left corner, in another ones in the middle. It depends on the situation.» That seems to deserve clarification, so we can have a reference for the bug reports, and maybe an elaboration would be in order as well. Because the yast window doesn't adjust to the size of the contents, it seems like visually it works better when the content is centered or there would be too much discrepancy with the buttons. Possible exception when the side tree / todo list is used? Cheers, Ricardo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: yast-devel+help@opensuse.org
Hello, On Jan 11 19:27 Ricardo Cruz wrote (shortened):
Vincent is requesting that the wizard contents come from the top when they don't fill the entire area (see fingerprint tool / bug 464902). ... That seems to deserve clarification, so we can have a reference for the bug reports, and maybe an elaboration would be in order as well.
For the next HackWeek I planned to implement a YaST "reference" module from scratch which implements reference-examples how to actually implement the various stuff which is described in the style guide. This way we would have both a reference implementation and at the same time an actually running module which shows directly how the stuff is meant to actually work. My final goal is that such a "reference" module is included in the official YaST system and is there as "the one and only" reference how to implement what is described in the style guide. This means that any change of the style guide must also be implemented accordingly in the YaST "reference" module, otherwise the change in the style guide would be not yet valid. I.e. whenever a usability expert describes something in a style guide, he/she must also care about to get in contact with the YaST developers to get it implemented in the YaST "reference" module.
the yast window doesn't adjust to the size of the contents
Have a look at the related issue https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=460739#c4 Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstrasse 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany AG Nuernberg, HRB 16746, GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: yast-devel+help@opensuse.org
Johannes Meixner wrote:
For the next HackWeek I planned to implement a YaST "reference" module from scratch which implements reference-examples how to actually implement the various stuff which is described in the style guide.
This way we would have both a reference implementation and at the same time an actually running module which shows directly how the stuff is meant to actually work.
My final goal is that such a "reference" module is included in the official YaST system and is there as "the one and only" reference how to implement what is described in the style guide.
What about merging it with the current YaST tutorial? http://forgeftp.novell.com/yast/doc/SL11.1/tutorials/t1.html http://svn.opensuse.org/svn/yast/trunk/doc/tutorials/
This means that any change of the style guide must also be implemented accordingly in the YaST "reference" module, otherwise the change in the style guide would be not yet valid.
That's too strict, I'd say.
I.e. whenever a usability expert describes something in a style guide, he/she must also care about to get in contact with the YaST developers to get it implemented in the YaST "reference" module.
Of course, it makes sense, said that way. L.
Hello, On Jan 13 10:38 Lukas Ocilka wrote (shortened):
Johannes Meixner wrote:
For the next HackWeek I planned to implement a YaST "reference" module from scratch which implements reference-examples how to actually implement the various stuff which is described in the style guide. ...
What about merging it with the current YaST tutorial?
http://forgeftp.novell.com/yast/doc/SL11.1/tutorials/t1.html http://svn.opensuse.org/svn/yast/trunk/doc/tutorials/
Yes, of course! I.e. for the next HackWeek I will start to implement the various stuff which is described in the style guide as add-on of the YaST tutorial. Of course I will not blindly commit something back to SVN. I appreciate any help from other YaST developers if someone else is interested. Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstrasse 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany AG Nuernberg, HRB 16746, GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: yast-devel+help@opensuse.org
That seems to deserve clarification, so we can have a reference for the bug reports, and maybe an elaboration would be in order as well. Because the yast window doesn't adjust to the size of the contents, it seems like visually it works better when the content is centered or there would be too much discrepancy with the buttons. Possible exception when the side tree / todo list is used?
Sounds good to me. What about: "* Content area - To avoid too long mouse ways to the navigation buttons the content should be placed in the middle of the screen. Exceptions can be made, if a navigation tree, navigation side bar or tabs are used." @Johannes: Yes, having a reference module would be most helpful! Thanks a lot! Cu, Martin -- Martin Schmidkunz User Experience Specialist martin.schmidkunz@novell.com +49 (0) 911 740 53-346 ----------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Novell, Inc. SUSE® Linux Enterprise 10 Your Linux is ready http://www.novell.com/linux -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: yast-devel+help@opensuse.org
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