On Mon, Sep 06, 2004 at 09:28:24PM -0700, Osho GG wrote:

I was curious to know when X.org 6.8 will be released (it was supposed to be released on 3rd September), will there be rpms for 9.1 Prof? I am currently using the X.org 6.7 rpms and would like to try out 6.8 due to couple of very annoying issues I am having.

AFAIK this will happen soon (hint: look at the CVS tags). I will provide RPMS for SuSE 9.1 ASAP - after the release has happened :-). Stefan Public Key available ---------------------------------------------------- Stefan Dirsch (Res. & Dev.) SUSE LINUX AG Tel: 0911-740 53 0 Maxfeldstrasse 5 FAX: 0911-740 53 479 D-90409 Nürnberg http://www.suse.de Germany ----------------------------------------------------

Am Freitag, 10. September 2004 19:34 schrieb Uwe Bonnes:

Stefan> AFAIK this will happen soon (hint: look at the CVS tags). I will Stefan> provide RPMS for SuSE 9.1 ASAP - after the release has happened Stefan> :-).

ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/X/XFree86/Xorg/Xorg-X11R6.8. 0-untested/i386/suse91/

is populated. Has anybody any experience with these packages?

I have tried them with my Radeon-6800. Installation with rpm -Uhv *.rpm was easy. One has to fix some lines in one's XF86Config to provide for a xorg.conf (take a look at the readme) - easy, too. Xorg works, but I noticed a big difference in normal 2d-speed. Unfortunately, a difference in the wrong direction: many applications took *much* longer to start. I searched the net for xcompmgr and transset, compiled them and tried transparency and drop-shadows. Very nice to look at, but unbearably slow. In the end I re-installed XFree again, its much faster in 2d. Maybe xorg with the ATI-Drivers (fglrx) are better, but I haven't tried them. Jörg@home -- Best of Babelfish: »Adobe Acrobat Reader« -> »Ziegelstein-Seiltänzer-Leser«

On Sun, 2004-09-12 at 11:13, Curtis Rey wrote:

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On Sun September 12 2004 08:20, Joerg Lippmann wrote:

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Am Freitag, 10. September 2004 19:34 schrieb Uwe Bonnes:

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Stefan> AFAIK this will happen soon (hint: look at the CVS tags). I will Stefan> provide RPMS for SuSE 9.1 ASAP - after the release has happened Stefan> :-).

ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/X/XFree86/Xorg/Xorg-X11R6. 8. 0-untested/i386/suse91/

is populated. Has anybody any experience with these packages?

I have tried them with my Radeon-6800.

Installation with rpm -Uhv *.rpm was easy. One has to fix some lines in one's XF86Config to provide for a xorg.conf (take a look at the readme) - easy, too.

Xorg works, but I noticed a big difference in normal 2d-speed. Unfortunately, a difference in the wrong direction: many applications took *much* longer to start.

I searched the net for xcompmgr and transset, compiled them and tried transparency and drop-shadows. Very nice to look at, but unbearably slow.

In the end I re-installed XFree again, its much faster in 2d. Maybe xorg with the ATI-Drivers (fglrx) are better, but I haven't tried them.

Jörg@home

Beta 9.2 is underway and it will exclusively use Xorg over XFree. It should be more stable and user friendly. If you continue to post your problems this will help.

Is this an excuse for me to mention another worry? SuSE 9.0 or 9.1, desktop = fvwm, video = Matrox G450 or G550 dual screen CAD setups. The recent XFree (used in SuSE 9.0) lost a feature. Before that, one could grab an exterm by the top bar and slide it up/down or right/left between displays. I use the 6x2 in fvwm, but the 4x4 in Gnome or KDE was similar. After SuSE 9.1, I couldn't go to the RIGHT, from one display to the next. I may pop another HD in my good box and test a new 9.1 install with the new Xorg on the weekend, but not earlier.

I am DL'ing the ISO's now and will be installing the beta on my other boxen. Unfortunately the other box uses an nVidia card - as oppossed to my production/home machine that uses a 9600 XT and therefore won't directly relate because of the different vid cards. However the problems you have mentioned should be more or less universal since it sound as if this is Xorg specific and not directly related to ATI/nVidia issues (though I'm sure these cards will present with their own quarks and problems).

Cheers, Curtis.

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On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 16:08, Osho GG wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:17:08 -0800, Stanley Long wrote:

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On Sun, 2004-09-12 at 11:13, Curtis Rey wrote:

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On Sun September 12 2004 08:20, Joerg Lippmann wrote:

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Am Freitag, 10. September 2004 19:34 schrieb Uwe Bonnes:

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Stefan> AFAIK this will happen soon (hint: look at the CVS tags). I will Stefan> provide RPMS for SuSE 9.1 ASAP - after the release has happened Stefan> :-).

ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/X/XFree86/Xorg/Xorg-X11R6. 8. 0-untested/i386/suse91/

is populated. Has anybody any experience with these packages?

I have tried them with my Radeon-6800.

Installation with rpm -Uhv *.rpm was easy. One has to fix some lines in one's XF86Config to provide for a xorg.conf (take a look at the readme) - easy, too.

Xorg works, but I noticed a big difference in normal 2d-speed. Unfortunately, a difference in the wrong direction: many applications took *much* longer to start.

I searched the net for xcompmgr and transset, compiled them and tried transparency and drop-shadows. Very nice to look at, but unbearably slow.

In the end I re-installed XFree again, its much faster in 2d. Maybe xorg with the ATI-Drivers (fglrx) are better, but I haven't tried them.

Jörg@home

Beta 9.2 is underway and it will exclusively use Xorg over XFree. It should be more stable and user friendly. If you continue to post your problems this will help.

Is this an excuse for me to mention another worry? SuSE 9.0 or 9.1, desktop = fvwm, video = Matrox G450 or G550 dual screen CAD setups.

The recent XFree (used in SuSE 9.0) lost a feature. Before that, one could grab an exterm by the top bar and slide it up/down or right/left between displays. I use the 6x2 in fvwm, but the 4x4 in Gnome or KDE was similar.

After SuSE 9.1, I couldn't go to the RIGHT, from one display to the next.

You should be able to do that with X.org 6.8 - it has pretty decent dual head configuration flexibility.

Osho Sorry if I caused confusion by mentioning dual head operation.

The problem involves sliding around between the available display windows on any one monitor screen. It is not to move xterms between monitors. Thanks. My configuration of choice is to use monitors for operation of separate programs. The only cross-monitor work might be to hilite text from an application on one monitor, then drop it onto an application on the other monitor.