[opensuse-wiki] Language menus are not the same on all localized wikis
I just walked trough Main pages using language selection menu in Firefox and it is not the same on all wikis. Is this known problem? -- Regards, Rajko. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday, 29. September 2007 15:55:39 Rajko M. wrote:
I just walked trough Main pages using language selection menu in Firefox and it is not the same on all wikis. Is this known problem?
That's the old problem/discussion about having a bot to create those links. IIRC it was said that it would not work reliable. Bye, Steve --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
Hello, on Montag, 1. Oktober 2007, Stephan Binner wrote:
On Saturday, 29. September 2007 15:55:39 Rajko M. wrote:
I just walked trough Main pages using language selection menu in Firefox and it is not the same on all wikis. Is this known problem?
That's the old problem/discussion about having a bot to create those links. IIRC it was said that it would not work reliable.
Hmm, and how would you describe the current status without a bot? To me, it also seems not to work reliable... *g,d&r* Regards, Christian Boltz -- "DOS=HIGH ...I knew it was on something!" (UNIX user, while reading C:\CONFIG.SYS) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 01 October 2007 10:37, Stephan Binner wrote: Hi,
On Saturday, 29. September 2007 15:55:39 Rajko M. wrote:
I just walked trough Main pages using language selection menu in Firefox and it is not the same on all wikis. Is this known problem?
yes. This problem occurs, when there is no redirect to the original English page name present in the localised wiki: English original: My page German translation: Meine Seite In this case, German will not show up in the language menu. English original: My page German translation: Meine Seite German redirect: My page -> Meine Seite This would be the correct way to set up the localised page.
That's the old problem/discussion about having a bot to create those links.
I do not think this is a tools/method matter. Neither a tool nor a human being or a template will know there is a connection between "My page" and "Meine Seite" without the redirect. All different language wikis are completely independent from each other. How does wikipedia handle this? -- Regards Frank Frank Sundermeyer, Technical Writer, Documentation SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0, Fax: +49-911-7417755; http://www.opensuse.org/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Reality is always controlled by the people who are most insane (Dogbert) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 02 October 2007 10:21:09 am Frank Sundermeyer wrote:
On Monday 01 October 2007 10:37, Stephan Binner wrote:
Hi,
On Saturday, 29. September 2007 15:55:39 Rajko M. wrote:
I just walked trough Main pages using language selection menu in Firefox and it is not the same on all wikis. Is this known problem?
yes. This problem occurs, when there is no redirect to the original English page name present in the localised wiki:
OK
This would be the correct way to set up the localised page.
That's the old problem/discussion about having a bot to create those links.
I do not think this is a tools/method matter. Neither a tool nor a human being or a template will know there is a connection between "My page" and "Meine Seite" without the redirect. All different language wikis are completely independent from each other.
How does wikipedia handle this?
So far I recall using bots, as Stephan suggested. Exact procedure? If I leave, in translated page, message: <!-- Original_lang:Original_title --> bot should be able to pick up that and correct original page to show new language. Very comfortable for translator. Problem: Guy translated page from Russian to Bulgarian (already happened). So bot should follow back to Russian page and further to English. The same bot can check for changes in original and leave message right under the title that original was changed, as warning for translators and readers. This is not trivial. Some changes should not produce warning. Size is not good criteria. One letter in command is important. BTW, how to deal with translations from non-English wikis. It should be possible. Though, how to organize everything. -- Regards, Rajko. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
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