[opensuse-wiki] syslog-ng wiki page
Hello, I plan to create a syslog-ng wiki page. It would contain: - a brief description of syslog-ng - which versions are available in openSUSE and which features are in these - a few words about updating custom configuration files I guess, it should be linked from http://en.opensuse.org/Category:Applications:System Questions: - what should be the URL - could somebody prepare a skeleton for me? As application pages seem to use templates, which I never used before... Thanks for your help, -- Peter Czanik (CzP) <czanik@balabit.hu> BalaBit IT Security / syslog-ng upstream http://czanik.blogs.balabit.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 21:11 +0100, Peter Czanik wrote:
Hello, I plan to create a syslog-ng wiki page. It would contain: - a brief description of syslog-ng - which versions are available in openSUSE and which features are in these - a few words about updating custom configuration files I guess, it should be linked from http://en.opensuse.org/Category:Applications:System Questions: - what should be the URL
http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:syslog-ng If you are describing the app and if you are doing some sort of troubleshooting use the SDB namespace
- could somebody prepare a skeleton for me? As application pages seem to use templates, which I never used before... Whenever you create a new page, you have options to select the template you can use an article template Thanks for your help,
Please visit http://wiki.opensuse.org/Portal:Wiki for further information Regards Manu
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On Thursday 02 December 2010 14:33:16 Manu Gupta wrote:
http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:syslog-ng If you are describing the app and if you are doing some sort of troubleshooting use the SDB namespace
The syslog-ng is application so presentation part that can be interesting to any wiki reader, should be in Main name space, and that is what Peter mentioned: - a very brief description of syslog-ng in template {{Intro| ... descritption}} Google likes that intro part. It takes approximately one or two rows from the first sentence and place it in a search result. I would like that everyone is aware of that and use it to the maximum. - a bit more just below it, that will explain what very short part can't tell, but based on its role in openSUSE. If there is good description on syslog-ng it should be linked. - template {{Infobox| ...}} will give basic details to those that look how to install it using official released version. Installation, configuration, troubleshooting details go in SDB namespace. Presentation article should list all other articles related to syslog-ng, so that people reading presentation can find other stuff. Those links should be in section == See also == as it is usual on other wikis. It would be good if all is connected using navigational bar based on Template:Navbar . If any help is needed we are here, but it would be easier to deal with articles when some content is there, as we (at least me) can't help much with details. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
Hello, On 12/03/2010 01:23 AM, Rajko M. wrote:
Installation, configuration, troubleshooting details go in SDB namespace. Presentation article should list all other articles related to syslog-ng, so that people reading presentation can find other stuff. Those links should be in section == See also == as it is usual on other wikis. It would be good if all is connected using navigational bar based on Template:Navbar .
If any help is needed we are here, but it would be easier to deal with articles when some content is there, as we (at least me) can't help much with details.
An initial version is available at http://en.opensuse.org/Syslog-ng I still need to add more information, but that's something for next week. I'll add then the config update part to SDB. How do I get it linked to the rest of the wiki? Should I just add it to applications:system category and it will be automagically get linked? Bye, -- Peter Czanik (CzP) <czanik@balabit.hu> BalaBit IT Security / syslog-ng upstream http://www.balabit.com/network-security/syslog-ng http://czanik.blogs.balabit.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 03 December 2010 08:25:31 Peter Czanik wrote:
How do I get it linked to the rest of the wiki? Should I just add it to applications:system category and it will be automagically get linked?
We use right now horizontal bar with links that is created for each group of pages, using http://en.opensuse.org/Template:Navbar . Example: http://en.opensuse.org/Help:Concept When you look wiki source text you can see: {{Wiki editing navbar}} That is "Template:Wiki editing navbar" created to connect in one group articles: Portal:Wiki Help:Concept Help:Namespace Help:Template Help:Category Help:Icon Help:Todo Looking at source of: http://en.opensuse.org/Template:Wiki_editing_navbar you can see how is used: http://en.opensuse.org/Template:Navbar It is simple {{Navbar |TITLE= ... > ... |CONTENT= ... - ... - ... - ... }} {{ and }} are start and end of Navbar template. Navbar is name of basic template. Vertical bar is parameter separator. TITLE and CONTENT are named parameters. All after "=" sign is printed out until parser hits next vertical bar. We create navbar templates for each group of articles in order to have single place to edit when we want to add or remove some articles from the group. As you can see here is all created manually and when one wants to add an article to the group change is manual. The other option present only on a few pages is my experiment with vertical navigational bar placed on right side, that is using same type of the code as vertical bars on Portal pages: <div style="width:30%; float:right"> {{Box-header|<title>||}} * [[link1]] * [[link2]] * [[link3]] * etc links {{Box-footer|}} </div> You can see, as example: http://en.opensuse.org/Help:Examples_of_bad_article_title Advantage of this approach is that you can put much more links without loosing readability. You can see in source text that I added whole "Category:Wiki help" (using <categorytree> tags), and navbar is still not overcrowded. This would be actually example of navbar that has almost 0 maintenance provided that people put articles in categories, which is something that is "must be done" anyway. The only problem with this example is that it is not created as template, so there is no 1 central place to change it, which is btw, problem with all user pages that use similar structure for basic contact information. Yours too :) I'll see how to help, but this weekend I'll be busy, but I'll try to help as described above. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
Hello, on Donnerstag, 2. Dezember 2010, Manu Gupta wrote:
http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:syslog-ng If you are describing the app and
IMHO that part should be in the main namespace, not in openSUSE: http://en.opensuse.org/Help:Concept says: * The Main namespace (with no prefix) for the presentation of the latest openSUSE Distribution, think of it as the product brochure, for people who are new to openSUSE and maybe to Linux in general. * [... SDB ...] * The openSUSE community's openSUSE: namespace to collaboratively write on documentation for their projects and teams. Description and a list of features sound like "product brochure" ;-) BTW @wiki team: I just had to restore Help:Concept - it was empty for about a week. I'd propose to add FlaggedRevs for the Help namespace. The help pages probably have stabilized now, and having ~40 pages more to check is much better than the empty Help:Concept that we had for about a week. Just imagine how it must have looked for new/possible contributors that the target of the "create a page" link in the left column lead to nothing...
if you are doing some sort of troubleshooting use the SDB namespace
ACK Configuration examples etc. are also something for SDB: namespace Regards, Christian Boltz --
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On Thursday 02 December 2010 18:45:12 Christian Boltz wrote:
I'd propose to add FlaggedRevs for the Help namespace.
+1 (it seems that someone has to check recent changes every day) User:Hekkro - what to do. Blanking important page is not evangelism. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
On 03.12.2010 02:11, Rajko M. wrote:
On Thursday 02 December 2010 18:45:12 Christian Boltz wrote:
I'd propose to add FlaggedRevs for the Help namespace.
Added to svn. We also changed the search page yesterday, so the layout is a bit better ;-) Greetings -- Thomas Schmidt (tom [at] opensuse.org) openSUSE Boosters Team "Don't Panic", Douglas Adams (1952 - 11.05.2001) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
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Christian Boltz
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Manu Gupta
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Peter Czanik
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Rajko M.
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Thomas Schmidt