While waiting some more days to pass by before I take another snapshot of Popular pages, to get current usage of wiki articles as presented on popular pages, I was looking around and found that new wiki user overwrote previous entry with data for his laptop.
This is not good, but I really can't blame new users as current presentation is very difficult to edit for anybody. Problem is: 1- monolithic table where one mistake breaks whole table 2- missing visible mnemonics during data entry 3- column width and row height depends on size of comments, which is not the same for all models, openSUSE versions and configurations 4- indexing and sorting by laptop model, openSUSE version and architecture is impossible 5- finding data for specific laptop is not easy
I would rearange whole HCL to use section titles for models so that they apear in TOC, small table for overview of the most important data, and place under the table for comments.
Sample is here: http://en.opensuse.org/User:Rajko_m/Tests
The table allows to add comment inline with {{y}} {{n}} templates without breaking other entries. It is large and page may be long, but there is TOC and no need for scroll.
So, I would need opinion how it looks now and ideas how to improve presentation.
For now it is easy to: - edit table and page -- it is easy to create page in text editor and than copy all to wiki - find particular model - find more about laptop on manufacturer web site - see what works and what not - link from outside, like this: http://en.opensuse.org/User:Rajko_m/Tests#TravelMate http://en.opensuse.org/User:Rajko_m/Tests#Travelmate_613TXV http://en.opensuse.org/User:Rajko_m/Tests#Empty_Table_-_Template
Op maandag 10 maart 2008, schreef Rajko M.:
I would rearange whole HCL to use section titles for models so that they apear in TOC, small table for overview of the most important data, and place under the table for comments.
Sample is here: http://en.opensuse.org/User:Rajko_m/Tests
Excellent idea.
The table allows to add comment inline with {{y}} {{n}} templates without breaking other entries. It is large and page may be long, but there is TOC and no need for scroll.
So, I would need opinion how it looks now and ideas how to improve presentation.
One comment. I would like to see a green OK sign when it works with the standard/updated distribution and a yellow OK sign when you need to use packages from elsewhere (Buildservice or developers website). One might even think about a red OK sign when you have to use compilation. Any ideas about a HOWTO behind these last OK signs?
On Monday 10 March 2008 04:24:01 am Freek de Kruijf wrote:
Op maandag 10 maart 2008, schreef Rajko M.:
I would rearange whole HCL to use section titles for models so that they apear in TOC, small table for overview of the most important data, and place under the table for comments.
Sample is here: http://en.opensuse.org/User:Rajko_m/Tests
Excellent idea.
The table allows to add comment inline with {{y}} {{n}} templates without breaking other entries. It is large and page may be long, but there is TOC and no need for scroll.
So, I would need opinion how it looks now and ideas how to improve presentation.
One comment. I would like to see a green OK sign when it works with the standard/updated distribution and a yellow OK sign when you need to use packages from elsewhere (Buildservice or developers website). One might even think about a red OK sign when you have to use compilation. Any ideas about a HOWTO behind these last OK signs?
Thanks for comments Boyd and Freek.
The idea to add colors and links to HOWTO seems good. Semaphore like image(s) that will give level of support for each feature. Though we would need: Suported, level: Complete = Green Partial = Yellow + remark what is missing Doesn't work = Red Driver: Distro = Green Third party rpm = Yellow Third party compile = Red Not tested = ? Doesn't exist, not applicable = N/A
It can be added to instructions for the future HCL contributors, though I would keep basic template as small as possible, which implies that we have to create advanced template with more data in it.
Priorities: - bring HCL in editor friendly status - add links to HOWTO articles, mail list, bugzilla - add features, ie. better
Right now even basic template doesn't tell about {{y}} {{n}} {{NA}} and other templates that can be used in the table.
I made another copy of example here: http://en.opensuse.org/Experiment_Station that is the one I intend to use to expand sample. To see how this works for real page. Than it can be added links to HOWTO articles, semaphores and then look what is next step.
Op dinsdag 11 maart 2008, schreef Rajko M.:
Driver: Distro = Green Third party rpm = Yellow Third party compile = Red Not tested = ? Doesn't exist, not applicable = N/A
I made the yellow and the red ticks and uploaded Rtick.png and Ytick.png.
On Sun, 9 Mar 2008, Rajko M. wrote:
Sample is here: http://en.opensuse.org/User:Rajko_m/Tests
I really like this. I would agree to go with it.
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