On 20/07/10 16:26, C wrote:
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 16:05, pistazienfresser wrote:
http://wiki.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&curid=544&diff=17698&oldi...
http://wiki.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=prev&oldid=17351
Wiki vandalism like this is tough to combat in my experience. Flagged revisions really does help - but it comes at a cost... overhead for approvers, and it prevents instant editing.
On other Wikis (like the OOo Wiki), I've implemented (with reasonably good results): - http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Bad_Behavior - http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ReCAPTCHA and set up $wgSpamRegex with the most common words used in Wiki Spam.
These extensions etc are working and we've reduced Spam from an hourly problem to something that has to be dealt with a couple of times per month.
is there any plan to secure the group of users/to limit the creation of new users and of dealing with vandalism in general?
Isn't an action like this rather counter productive? The point of Wikis is for collaboration on input. If you lock down the users.. or raise the bar too high, you starve the Wiki of the few new contributors.
I think it is possible to do a lot less obvious and more dangerous spamming/malicious things than the examples above.
Sure. That's the risk of the internet and Wikis in general. [...] But you can reduce the risk for both the user/consumer and especially for the approving admin/editor/ I was referring to this discussion/example: *Thread: Internal and external links - definition and rules/guidelines* http://forums.opensuse.org/english/community/opensuse-wiki-discussions/44127...
Especially in a wiki where are controlled versions (not only against vandalism but also for quality) there might be a problem for admins/editors with liability for 'controlled' external links. With this in mind I propose that there should be some more cautious dealing with external links: - Easy to see in html/wiki format: links to openSUSE/novell without an arrow (and not links to openFATE, forums.opensuse.org, novells bugzilla and other openSUSE or Novell pages with an arrow like likes to private webpages), but links to real external pages (including en.wikipedia) with an arrow (not without a arrow like internal links to an other page of the opensuse-wiki). If I look at the "terms" (Contract of adhesion?/Allgemeine Geschaeftsbedingungen?) the section under http://wiki.opensuse.org/Terms_of_site#Links_to_Third-Party_Sites seems to define "external links" like I thought of it. - (If possible without much fuss) no external links in the main text but only in the section "external links" (template:References/Footnotes or at least: [[#References|Short name]]). - The (easy to see) possible reputation of an external source - Author, Platform, Title of the source: better to control/rate both by user and by patrolmen/administrators. See: http://wiki.opensuse.org/Talk:In_the_press So what about a help:-page and a template with guidelines to define external links and there use like above? Maybe you would define accordingly the content of the sections "see also" (or maybe a third section for links to novell and openSUSE out of the wiki) and especially "external links". Greetings pistazienfresser -- - openSUSE profile: https://users.opensuse.org/show/pistazienfresser -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org