On 12:29 Mon 02 Aug 2010, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
On 07/30/2010 05:27 PM, Brandon Philips wrote:
On 15:16 Fri 30 Jul 2010, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
On 30.07.2010 15:00, Frank Sundermeyer wrote:
Maybe I have missed it during the endless namespace discussions, but do we have proof that the "casual visitors" are indeed the majority?
Does that show us the problem namespaces are trying to solve?
The goal was to solve the issue of casual visitors using the wiki search and finding information that isn't user oriented documentation, right?
The goal was to serve visitors better (more fitting), high quality content.
This can be done by making the content higher quality instead of hiding the contributor pages in namespaces. It feels as if we are brushing clutter under a namespace rug. To give an example currently we have a number of pages that are all disconnected for the Kernel: openSUSE:Bugreport kernel openSUSE:Kernel git SDB:Kernel of the day Instead of this mess of namespaces and information I reorganized it all into a single page on http://en.opensuse.org/Kernel with nicely organized sections drilling down from what a Kernel is to how to use the openSUSE kernel git. This avoids the namespaces, includes useful "user documentation" and doesn't draw a hard line between "users" and "contributors".
So we separated the content by 3 user groups (following the bento concept) into namespaces
* Users (main) * Contributor (opensuse)
As you show here openSUSE: is actually the namespace for contributors. Perhaps rename openSUSE: to contrib: or contributor:. Removing namespaces would be better but this change will suggest who the namespace is used by. You make it clear right here that the openSUSE: namespace isn't working by having to define the namespace use in parenthesis. Not everyone is going to read the namespace rules and making discoverable norms is part of building a community that follows the rules.
* Community (help)
Huh, I don't get this one at all.
The search is one topic of the whole transition. Its was never the goal.
It seems to be the only user visible change due to this whole namespace mess though. That and breaking tons of URLs.
You can read all this on Portal:Wiki which is linked from the Main page :)
I tried but you broke the URL! (Sidebar -> Help -> Create a page)! http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Wiki/Concept Cheers, Brandon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org