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[opensuse-wiki] Re: WebYaST on the Wiki
by Henne Vogelsang 20 Jul '10

20 Jul '10

Hey Martin, On 19.07.2010 13:58, Martin Vidner wrote: > on Tuesday you said you were transferring the content to > http://wiki.opensuse.org/Portal:YaST . Do you plan to do more there > or can we take over now? By all means that was not meant to stop you from doing anything. I also said that you are welcome to help :) > Now when I look at > http://old-en.opensuse.org/Category:YaST and > http://old-en.opensuse.org/Category:WebYaST , > where should we put the content to ensure that it is not swept away > by a well-meant reorganization? Where it belongs. Where what belongs is documented in detail on http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Wiki I also blogged about the changes several times on news.o.o http://news.opensuse.org/category/wiki-2/ > I guess that using the oS wiki for project development documents is > somewhat unusual, perhaps we should use some other place? Project development documents (and collaborative editing of them) is one of the three things we do with the openSUSE wiki! The only thing that changed from the old wiki in that respect is that it's organized and split from the the end-user product presentation and documentation. In short: Product presentation - Main namespace (all pages without prefix) Problem solutions - Support namespace (SDB: prefix) Project documents - Project namespace (openSUSE: prefix) So you just fill in all your pages into the right namespace and then you use the wiki tools Portal, Categories and Navbars to connect them again. If you need any help with that let us know :) Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE. Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] Transferring images
by Matthew Ehle 19 Jul '10

19 Jul '10

Tim, I have added the Indexes directive to files.opensuse.org. You should be able to go in there and file the uploaded files for all the wikis. More importantly, you can now get all the files together with a single wget command if that will help you out in your quest. Something like the following should work: wget -r -np -nd http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/old-en/ This will download every file that has been uploaded to the old-en wiki and place it under a single directory. I believe all the filenames should be different, and I believe it is set to no-clobber by default, so this should be a safe command to run. You may also want to consider adding a little wait time between requests (with a -w), so that you don't destroy your bandwidth on this. Also, if the idea was for multiple people to be able to do something like this, I can even do something like create a temporary location on files.o.o with all the old-en files in one directory. -Matt >>> "Matthew Ehle" 07/15/10 12:30 AM >>> >Tim, > >How are you determining which files you want to get? If it makes life easier for you, I can just allow index view on >files.opensuse.org, which I should probably do anyway. With that, you can download all the files on old-en.opensuse.org >into one directory with a single wget command. That would probably make it a lot easier for you to pick and choose the >files you need. >I will look into getting one of these upload extensions installed as soon as I get a handle on this session error bug that is >affecting imports in the first place. Since it is possible, however unlikely, that one of the new extensions that we installed is >related to the problem, I am wary of installing more extensions until we at least know what is going on. > >In any case, I'm going to go ahead and set index views on files.o.o before I go to bed and forget all about it. > >-Matt >>> Christian Boltz 07/14/10 4:35 PM >>> >Hello, > >on Mittwoch, 14. Juli 2010, Tim Mohlmann wrote: >> I'm still try to work out a script for downloading multiple images at >> once, to overcome the sub-directory problem. Tried earlier tips form >> Rajko and Cristian, but it's not working as it should (wget is >> following a little bit to much). > >to get the directory structure: > >echo 'Image:foo.jpg' | sed 's/^Image://' | md5sum - | sed 's§^$.$$.$.*§\1/\1\2§' > > >Script to download several images (not really tested, but should work): > >grep ".." imglist.txt | while read file ; do >img=$(echo $file | sed 's/^Image://') >imgpath=$(echo "$img" | md5sum - | sed 's§^$.$$.$.*§\1/\1\2§') >wget "http://old-en.opensuse.org/images/$imgpath/$img" >done > >This will download all files listed in imglist.txt with wget. >imglist could look like that: > >Image:Foo.jpg >Bar.jpg <---- Image: is not required (will be cut away anyway) >Image:Baz.jpg > >I assume you know what you are writing into imglist.txt - the script >does not have a real protection against funny filenames etc. >Most important: you have to use _ instead of spaces (or add another sed ;-) > > >If you prefer to use commandline parameters instead of a file with the >filelist, replace the first line with >for file in "$@" ; do > > >Regards, > >Christian Boltz > >PS: In case you wonder: the "grep .." is a trick to skip empty lines ;-)

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] Bugzilla is missing in the wiki?
by Matthew Ehle 19 Jul '10

19 Jul '10

There is another thread from a few days ago with the subject "Search on the Wiki?". On this thread, I have tried opening a discussion about implementing a solution for this problem. So far, I have heard complaints all over the list about the default wiki search, but I have not seen any discussion on the thread that is proposing a solution. For those of you who don't like the current search, please start having some discussion about what can be done about it. We have a couple of options, but for me to take the amount of time needed to explore, recommend, and implement something, Novell will need to sign off on it. I'm going to try to grease the wheels (I also don't care for the default search), but it would also be good to show that it is more than just me who is interested in a particular solution. So please do more than complain and contribute to the discussion about getting a solution :P >>> Juergen Weigert 07/19/10 5:33 AM >>> On Jul 17, 10 17:19:32 -0500, Rajko M. wrote: > On Saturday 17 July 2010 15:50:39 Carlos E. R. wrote: > > On 2010-07-17 22:22, Tim Mohlmann wrote: > > >> But it happens that in the forums we are suggesting to people that > > >> already have found a bug to report it in bugzilla right away... so this > > >> people will put "bugzilla" in the search box and not find it. > > >> > > >> Which is pistazienfresser point, I understand. > > > Did you already try it just before sending the Message? ;) > > I did try before sending my first message, but not the second one. > > > Try to type Bugzilla in search, and you'll see it's fixed. Thanks to > > > Rajko that is. > > So it is. He didn't say anything. Thanks, Rajko :-) > You are welcome :) I found that [[Report_a_Bug]] was the name of that page, on the old wiki, and articles in the new wiki also refernce it by that name. I've created it as yet-another-#redirect. I also found that the wiki search sucks in another unexpected way: (maybe related to what Rajko described below) A user who types 'bug report' in the search box, gets nothing. It appears that page title matches are 'exact matches', not substring matches. They are even case sensitive, so the uppercase B in 'Report a Bug' matters. cheers, JW- > Problem is that we have something like bug in advanced search that "hides" > page that exist right on the top of search window, instead to report it below > search field. Whole group "Page title matches" is sometimes missing. > > The old wiki has that right, and it is the same MediaWiki version as the new > wiki, so it is something about settings or extensions that are installed in a > new wiki. > > I'm trying to find configuration files before I file bug report on that, so > that system admins have easier job to fix, but I lost the link :( > > -- > Regards, > Rajko > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org > For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org > -- o \ Juergen Weigert paint it green! __/ _=======.=======_ | jw(a)suse.de back to ascii! __/ _---|____________\/ \ | 0911 74053-508 __/ (____/ /\ (/) | _____________________________/ _/ \_ vim:set sw=2 wm=8 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) "You are trying to use packages from project 'openSUSE:11.2'. Note that malicious packages can compromise your system." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Articles That Need Review [[Special:OldReviewedPage]]
by pistazienfresser 18 Jul '10

18 Jul '10

Dear list, dear wiki-admins! For your interest: http://wiki.opensuse.org/Special:OldReviewedPages "[...] (22 days) [...]" Greetings pistazienfresser -- - openSUSE profile: https://users.opensuse.org/show/pistazienfresser -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Official docs openSUSE 11.3
by Tim Mohlmann 17 Jul '10

17 Jul '10

Hello Doc list, For the wiki, I would like to know when will the official novell docs be published? As for every version we create a link from the wiki to this original docs. At this moment I can't find anything on http://www.novell.com/documentation. Greetings, Tim Mohlmann (wiki team) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] bugs.opensuse.org - wrong/outdated redirect
by Christian Boltz 17 Jul '10

17 Jul '10

Hello, bugs.opensuse.org still redirects to the (now empty) page http://en.opensuse.org/Submit_a_Bug Can someone please update the redirect to a working page? ;-) It should probably point to http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Submitting_bug_reports Regards, Christian Boltz -- http://portal.suse.com/sdb/de/1997/09/maddin_kopieren.html Der Artikel wird demnächst 7, sollte also in die zweite Klasse Grundschule gehen, sobald die Ferien vorbei sind... [Michael Behrens in suse-linux] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Just got notification from November 2009 :)
by Rajko M. 17 Jul '10

17 Jul '10

openSUSE page User talk:Sabarth has been changed by Sabarth From: WikiAdmin <webmaster(a)opensuse.org> To: (me) Date: 2009-11-26 16:39 -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Transferring articles
by Tim Mohlmann 16 Jul '10

16 Jul '10

Hi Guys, I encountered ( as noted in the LTSP topic) that transferring can only be done by members of the "administrators" group. I'm more than willing to help with this. To be more specific, I'm kinda stuck here on LTSP and I want to complete it, as now I have the time to do it. I send a list to Rajko what to be transferred and to what name/location. I know he's busy and I don't want to push him, but I also hate to be patient. I do not have the ambition to become an "administrator" , but maybe there's a possibility to create a temporary group eg. "transfer" and add everybody in there that is allowed to import articles. Including me and the current "administrators" Greets, Tim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Wiki Update
by Matthew Ehle 16 Jul '10

16 Jul '10

Hello, Here are a couple of quick items for you reference regarding the wiki: -Bug #619735 has been resolved and is awaiting verification. The /var partition on the backup web server got filled with logging. Since session data was also stored on the partition, new sessions were not being created. This was not a problem on the primary web server, which is why the problem was intermittent. Since cleaning out the partition, the problem seems to have gone away. If I don't hear anything about it happening in the next couple of days, I will close it. -I have installed the MultiUpload extension on the new wikis. Right now, you can access it at Special:MultipleUploads. However, I can easily make it the default uploader. Tim and I wanted to bring this up for a discussion. I think it is something that users will appreciate. If we make it the default, we may also want to edit the theme to say Upload files (plural) in the Toolbox, instead of the singular form. -Speaking of extensions, I was wondering if one or more of you might go through the list of extensions we have installed to make sure that they are all needed. We have an awful lot in there (twice as many as in the legacy wiki!), and I am a little concerned about the wiki getting bloated. It's no big deal if all the extensions are being used, but at the same time, I want to make sure that we they are being used. Thanks! -Matt

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[opensuse-wiki] Merging [[Portal:11.3/News]] and [[In the press]]?
by pistazienfresser 16 Jul '10

16 Jul '10

Hello list! Shall [[Portal:11.3/News]] and [[In the press]] be merged? Maybe [[In the press]] (name? [[In the media]]?) could become a portal with a 11.3 or a 11.3-press window/subpage? - Could this subpage used by [[Portal:11.3]] also? But then a coherent (and informative?) way of formating the references would be fine (see: http://en.opensuse.org/Talk:In_the_press ) Greetings pistazienfresser -- - openSUSE profile: https://users.opensuse.org/show/pistazienfresser -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] Blog Versioning
by Matthew Ehle 16 Jul '10

16 Jul '10

>>>> Thomas Schmidt 07/16/10 4:31 AM >>> >>On 15.07.2010 22:13, Matthew Ehle wrote: >> Hello, >> >> OK, so this is not technically a wiki item, but it's close enough : ) >> >> I have just finished adding the three openSUSE blogs (lizards, news, and >> spotlight) into the same repository where the wiki is stored. The only >> things not in the repository are the special files we keep sensitive >> data and the upload directories (just like the wiki). This should >> provide a quick way for those of you involved with the blogs to edit and >> test themes and add plugins, and a quick way for me to deploy them to >> test, stage, and production. >> >> For those of you who are working on the new bento theme, you will >> probably want to continue using the git repository for the development >> work. When you are ready to try it out, you can just take the latest >> version from git and add it to each of the three blogs in berlios. >> After you have committed to the Subversion repository, go to >> http://wwwtest.provo.novell.com/company/blogs/svnup.php to deploy to test. >> >> As usual, please contact me with any questions. >Hi Matthew, are the wordpress instances also running on the wiki staging server? No, they are hosted with the Novell blogs on a different server. That's why I provided the PHP page to run svn up for you guys, so that you could be able to test without having to wait on me every time you want to try out your theme changes. If it is better for you, there should be no reason you can't set this us on a local LAMP server as well. I can get you dumps of the test databases. The only thing you will need to do differently is to use the Modify Headers FF extension to "log in". You just need to set it up to inject the following header info, and it should take you right through the login page: X-cn -> your username X-email -> your email address as it is on your www.novell.com account If that is something you want to be able to do, I'll be on GWIM in about another hour. Ping me there, and I'll get you a database to work with. -Matt -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Complaints
by Tim Mohlmann 16 Jul '10

16 Jul '10

Then I will move it myself. jdd, It's not that I want to attack you, I'm not calling you useless. Probably 90% off the people working around openSUSE have more contribs then me. But if you come with problems, make it short facts. one by one, explain how to do it better and if it makes sense we can do something about it. Just writing endless complaints isn't motivating anybody to listen to you and do something about it. I'm just saying, redesigning the namespace again, it's far to late for that, so it's useless to discuss it. Yes, the main namespace should be like a brochure, but no, it is certainly not the working domain of the wiki team. We got other tings going on, like transferring more articles to make the wiki more complete. If we would like to restrict the pages, we would make it protected. You and anyone can edit all namespaces, there are only certain rules to follow, to give it a more organized structure than it was. And the hostile feeling about SDB: I know where it comes from, it used to be a namespace full of not updated articles and only to be used by experts. The new wiki is a nice opportunity to change this. Make it more complete and make it a real Support Database. See it as one big helpfile. I changed to this subject, since we like to use the Transferring Articles thread for quick questions to each other, while doing the job: transferring articles, with the structure how it is now. If somebody heads in trouble, he uses that thread. It's not meant for this discussions. If you are actually transferring an article and you have a question about it, or trouble, use that thread. For anything else, find or create another thread. >> Why? what's so hard about it? Type search, if the article doesn't >> exist, you click the red link in the search results, done! > > and go to the main namespace? Is that the good way? (I hope so :-) No, because if you look for a how to or support article, you search with SDB: If it doesn't show up, you can create it with SDB: prefix, if that of course what you are looking for. And typing SDB: can be used for people who know that support articles are located under SDB. People who don't know (are usually people that came around just a couple of times) go to http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Support and search under Problem Solutions. So they don't have to worry about the SDB prefix. Greetings, Tim 2010/7/16 jdd <jdd(a)dodin.org>: > Le 16/07/2010 10:10, Tim Mohlmann a écrit : > >> You already checked http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Wiki there it's >> perfectly explained to you, > > are you kidding? > > "prominently the main namespace (with no prefix) for the > _presentation_ of the latest openSUSE Distribution, think of it as the > product _brochure_" > > is that the place "anyone can write here"? as I will probably do if I > clic the red link as you say? > > if so this should be said clearly, I have no problem with it. In my > comprehension such sentence mean "don't touch if you are not from the > wiki team". > >> explain more on a certain item, like namespaces. It may have helped if >> you had reed the news: >> http://news.opensuse.org/2010/07/08/the-devil-is-in-the-details/ > > I did. The only namespace that seems to fit my needs is SBD, and if > this didn't change it's all but friendly! I already wrote articles for > SDB, and I tend to avoid it as much as possible. May be this have > changed! it would be good, > > I started to work on the new wiki 3 >> weeks ago and it took 1 day to undestand > > don't you think "one day to understand" is way more than most people > can afford? I know *I* couldmanage it (after all I was one of the > first on the initial wiki), but the goal is to attract as much people > as possible. > >>> Search for Blu Ray on the wiki returns nothing (and google >>> site:en.opensuse.org blu ray don't help) >> >> Well, then there's nothing wrong with our search engine then he? > > not sure. Blu ray is one of the main feature of the new 11.3, I'm sure > I read this on a page, but no search engine found it :-( > >> writing in complaint e-mails, you already should have already have 3 >> articles finished! > > is that enough: > http://old-en.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&… > > but I don't want to begin with the new wiki making a mess :-( > >> Why? what's so hard about it? Type search, if the article doesn't >> exist, you click the red link in the search results, done! > > and go to the main namespace? Is that the good way? (I hope so :-) > >> We have this system, with the reviewing process, which you complained >> about in an earlier mail. > > no. I complain not knowing where to start. I try not to start on the > middle of an well organised stuff! > >> knew about this wiki transition long ago. Long enough to help out in >> the painful and slow progress of transferring articles. > > I want to help transferring the pages linked from my own user page. I > work full time for the french forum and wiki (and some other things > Linux related also) > >>> sorry if tghis is not exactly the good thread, But I couldn't think of >>> a better title :-( >> >> You are right, not the good tread, > > well? it's about transfering pages! > > we are trying to work here with >> practical things. If you'd wish to continue this discussion open a new >> thread for this: Complaints > > better not read that. We have to better know each other > > I just try to point things that don't work well. How can you make them > better if not? > > jdd > > > -- > http://www.dodin.net > http://www.facebook.com/pages/I-support-the-Linux-Documentation-Project/372… > http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-fan-page-of-Claire-Dodin/106485119372062?… > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org > For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org > > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Logout page link leads to 403
by Rajko M. 15 Jul '10

15 Jul '10

http://en.opensuse.org/ICHAINLogout/?"http://en.opensuse.org/cmd/ICSLogout"-X click on openSUSE logo to get back to wiki and: 403 Forbidden This site does not support HTTPS. Please try again using HTTP. It is https link: https://en.opensuse.org/ -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Download help on the download page
by Atri Bhattacharya 15 Jul '10

15 Jul '10

Hi! In the main page http://software.opensuse.org/112/en none of the links work, they have to be modified to point to the correct location. For example see the section "Need help?" There is a "Download Help" link right below it that points to http://en.opensuse.org/Download_Help which is of course an empty page. The correct link should be http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Download_Help Similarly for all following links to en.o.o. This is *the page* for tomorrow, can't go wrong here :) Bye -- Atri -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Wiki Transition
by Matthew Ehle 15 Jul '10

15 Jul '10

Hello All, Last week, I posted an article on the news blog about the schedule for the move of the new wiki to en.opensuse.org. To summarize, the change will begin at 17:00 UTC (~30 minutes from now) and will last 10-15 minutes. Please make sure to wrap up any work you are doing on the new wiki by this time, so that you do not lose anything. I will send another message to the list when I am finished, and you may resume any work you are doing at that time. If you have any questions, please give me a call at my office at 1 801-861-2722. Thanks, Matt

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] Transferring images
by Matthew Ehle 15 Jul '10

15 Jul '10

Tim, How are you determining which files you want to get? If it makes life easier for you, I can just allow index view on files.opensuse.org, which I should probably do anyway. With that, you can download all the files on old-en.opensuse.org into one directory with a single wget command. That would probably make it a lot easier for you to pick and choose the files you need. I will look into getting one of these upload extensions installed as soon as I get a handle on this session error bug that is affecting imports in the first place. Since it is possible, however unlikely, that one of the new extensions that we installed is related to the problem, I am wary of installing more extensions until we at least know what is going on. In any case, I'm going to go ahead and set index views on files.o.o before I go to bed and forget all about it. -Matt >>> Christian Boltz 07/14/10 4:35 PM >>> Hello, on Mittwoch, 14. Juli 2010, Tim Mohlmann wrote: > I'm still try to work out a script for downloading multiple images at > once, to overcome the sub-directory problem. Tried earlier tips form > Rajko and Cristian, but it's not working as it should (wget is > following a little bit to much). to get the directory structure: echo 'Image:foo.jpg' | sed 's/^Image://' | md5sum - | sed 's§^$.$$.$.*§\1/\1\2§' Script to download several images (not really tested, but should work): grep ".." imglist.txt | while read file ; do img=$(echo $file | sed 's/^Image://') imgpath=$(echo "$img" | md5sum - | sed 's§^$.$$.$.*§\1/\1\2§') wget "http://old-en.opensuse.org/images/$imgpath/$img" done This will download all files listed in imglist.txt with wget. imglist could look like that: Image:Foo.jpg Bar.jpg <---- Image: is not required (will be cut away anyway) Image:Baz.jpg I assume you know what you are writing into imglist.txt - the script does not have a real protection against funny filenames etc. Most important: you have to use _ instead of spaces (or add another sed ;-) If you prefer to use commandline parameters instead of a file with the filelist, replace the first line with for file in "$@" ; do Regards, Christian Boltz PS: In case you wonder: the "grep .." is a trick to skip empty lines ;-) -- An NT server can be run by an idiot, and usually is. [Tom Holub,a.h.b-o-u] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Transferring images
by Tim Mohlmann 14 Jul '10

14 Jul '10

Hi Guys, I found it particular difficult to transfer images (File:xxx.png). Now the work flow is: *Transfer article. You find missing images *Trace them down 1 by 1 on the old wiki and download them *Upload them 1 by 1 on the new wiki. This is very annoying when transferring articles with multiple screenshots, or Artwork articles (I'm busy with that). This gets also pointed out by others whom I speak on irc. At least for the uploading part I found: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MultiUpload There are more tastes available in: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuring_file_uploads#Mass_uploading Is it possible to install an extension like this ASAP? I'm still try to work out a script for downloading multiple images at once, to overcome the sub-directory problem. Tried earlier tips form Rajko and Cristian, but it's not working as it should (wget is following a little bit to much). Greetings, Tim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Cleaning up the trash!
by Tim Mohlmann 14 Jul '10

14 Jul '10

Hi Guys, Today I started on cleaning the trash in http://old-en.opensuse.org/Category:Checked_Articles. Most article's where double marked (Reviewed and TransferNote). I Removed {{Reviewed}} from the articles also containing {{TransferNote}}. Now I'm busy clearing the list by transferring the articles and mark them with {{TransferNote}}. I hope I get half way today and finish it tomorrow. I also found articles already transferred, but not marked with {{TransferNote}}, so this is also in the fixing progress. Can an admin for old-en.o.o have a look at http://old-en.opensuse.org/Ambassadors/List and remove the {{Reviewed}} tag. I'm not admin on old-en.o.o and it's locked. PLEASE, when you transfer anything form this Category, don't forget to mark them and remove {{Reviewed}} tag. It was (and still is) a hell of a job to clean up afterwards. Thanks in advance! Greets, Tim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Wiki Watch
by Matthew Ehle 14 Jul '10

14 Jul '10

Hello All, As some of you may know, we have hit a little snag with the wikis. One of the two primary web servers for www.opensuse.org, files.opensuse.org, and the wiki farm had a major hardware failure yesterday. After some discussion with the data center, we decided that it would be safer to keep that server out of the rotation, rather than attempt to fix and bring the server back online during the 11.3 release. Of course, this really couldn't have come at a worse time. As is expected, new releases cause much higher traffic than usual. Combine this with the fact that we have a brand new wiki out there that has generated a lot of interest and will require a learning curve (i.e. more pages per user), and I think this will probably be one of the highest traffic days that we have ever had. The silver lining here is that openSUSE invested in some really capable hardware. I did some tuning of the remaining server to prepare it for a high traffic load, and it should be able to handle quite a bit of traffic on its own. In addition, I brought the backup server online and tuned it for a higher load as well. It will be on rotation with the remaining primary server on all the sites, except for www.opensuse.org and en.opensuse.org. I left those two out so as to not overwhelm the considerably weaker backup server. With all of this together, I feel confident that the www page and wikis should run smoothly throughout the release. I have gotten some reports of sporadic slowness of the site, but I believe that was coming from iChain. Chris did some work on there, and I believe that resolved the problem. I just want you all to be aware that we not at our normal capacity going into this release. While we should be ok, please do me a favor and check out the site periodically for uptime and responsiveness. If anything seems out of the ordinary, please contact me right away. What would be especially useful is if any of you have some kind of web diagnostic tool, and send me any reports if the site is being slow. Without specific data and being unable to duplicate the problem, I will only be able to pinpoint the problem so far. Thank you, Matthew Ehle Web Engineer Application Development & Maintenance Affiliated Computer Services, Inc A Xerox Company Mobile Phone: (801) 228-8043 Office Phone: (801) 861-2722 mehle(a)novell.com

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[opensuse-wiki] Landing page for 11.3
by Atri Bhattacharya 14 Jul '10

14 Jul '10

Hi! There is no landing page for 11.3, there is only Portal:11.3. Is this intended, or is it okay to create a page for 11.3 at http://en.opensuse.org/11.3 similar to what we have for GNOME and KDE [1]? [1] http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME http://en.opensuse.org/KDE Bye -- Atri -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Allow me to introduce myself
by Tim Mohlmann 14 Jul '10

14 Jul '10

Hello wiki team! As in the LTSP topic, Rajko has accepted my appliance for membership to the wiki team, it seems proper to me to introduce myself! My name is Tim Möhlmann, nick Muhlemmer on the wiki. Userpage: http://en.opensuse.org/User:Muhlemmer Although my last name is an old German name and my nick is German for trashcan (am I correct?), don't be tempted to assume I am German. I come from the Netherlands and life in a nice coastal village called Middelburg. My occupation is Marine Service Engineer and I'm specialised in nuts, bolts, pipes, pumps and electrics. I have a very strong interest in Marine automation, as this touches one off my hobby's: Computers. Throughout the years this became discovering and using linux, openSUSE being my favourite distro. It's a quite similar story like the most off us, seeing to much of window's BSOD, I started looking for alternatives and found Linux. The rest speaks for itself. My biggest frustration in my field of work: more and more automation companies in the marine sector are using Windows as a base OS. Taking in example Norcontroll, the biggest (and it was the most reliable) made a switch from Unix to Windows. Basically as excuse: The "specialists" find it easier to develop Windows based apps. Now I have to tell my costumers: It's not the automation that hangs, it just windows. The only thing I can suggest, reboot every week. As some people may know, rebooting an automation system is a small suicide attempt, there are always some thing not working or properly addressed when the system is back up. Pray it's not our electrical plant or propulsion systems. My big vision, one day build a professional and stable opensource based automation plant for the marine sector. Making it affordable and less binding for service. (If you need norcontroll service, you might have to wait a month or so). Anyway, I'm getting of track here.. back on again: What I do with openSUSE and the wiki * I'm not a wiki expert, neither a linux geek. Although I would like to be, I simply don't have time to be one. * Playing around with Linux is a hobby, which is done in my spare time. * I use the wiki to wright down, or correct what is written, according my own experience. * Doing this I find more to learn and try in Linux, giving me another opportunity to above etc. What can you expect of me in the Wiki-team *Because of my work I'm mostly abroad (last year 210 days), most of the times I work alone. *Although I totally like going to bars and clubs, it's not something I want to be doing every night to kill time. *I use this time for my "hobby" openSUSE and the wiki. *Sometimes I'm on projects that don't have spare time, in this case you will see less to nothing from me. *My days at home are sparse and I've got a girl and house to maintain, also don't expect to much from me in this case. *When I do have time, I'm busy all evening and the long sundays, making up for my downtime. Finally a nice quote, that describes my relation with openSUSE and the wiki: "I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand." Conficius (around 500 BC) Hope to have a nice coöperation with you guys! Tim Möhlmann -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] kernel / Linux Kernel
by pistazienfresser 14 Jul '10

14 Jul '10

http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2010-07/msg00368.html Hello Wiki-List, I think it would be grate if there would be an article about the kernel and especially the varieties in openSUSE and some (external) links to further information. I may be able to deliver something like a stub or be used as a dummy to test if a real article is easy to understand but I do think it would be a good idea if someone else/some other people would do the real work - some people how do really now how the kernel works and how making the kernel (technically and socially) works... Greetings pistazienfresser -- - openSUSE 11.2 with GNOME 2.28.2 (or KDE 4.3.5) and Kernel Linux 2.6.31.12-0.2-default (or pae, Ubuntu 10.4 LTS 'lucid' 2.6.33-22-genetic, MS Win XP) - Samsung X20 (SX20S) with Pentium M 740 (1730 MHz), Intel graphic 915GM, 1400x1050 - openSUSE profile: https://users.opensuse.org/show/pistazienfresser -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Import/Export For All Groups
by Matthew Ehle 13 Jul '10

13 Jul '10

Hello All, In response to "New wiki, what now?" article on news.opensuse.org, someone commented on the fact that the import/export functionality is not available to most users. I wanted to point this out to the wiki team so that you can decide among yourselves whether you wish to keep it this way. There is obviously a lot of potential for abuse and quality issues if this function is available to all users. On the other hand, a lot of people might care about preserving the history of the articles and will not be happy if they have no way of doing it. Perhaps the best route might be to do something in between. I could delegate the Import/Export functions to a group such as "Editors", and let them decide on which pages to import into the new wiki. Then we can let the average user know whom they can contact to request an import. This is what I would personally suggest. In addition, it was pointed out that there is an open bug to add an extension for protecting user pages. I'm going to try this out on stage, and if no one has any objections, commit it to the repository and deploy it to production. Now if I can just remember my Berlios credentials... :D -Matt

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[opensuse-wiki] http://wiki.opensuse.org/ still onine and editable !?
by Michael Loeffler 13 Jul '10

13 Jul '10

Moin, it looks like http://wiki.opensuse.org/ still is online and editable. I guess this shouldn't be the case, right? I almost edited stuff there as my browser of course remembered the pages I used over the last weeks. Best Michael -- Michael Löffler, Product Management SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Galleries in the new wiki
by Atri Bhattacharya 13 Jul '10

13 Jul '10

Hi! I have noticed that the galleries in the new wiki set-up don't look pretty if they are followed by multiple lines of captions. For example, here http://en.opensuse.org/Screenshots#GNOME you can see how the galleries adjust and move up and down to accommodate for varying lines of caption. In my opinion, the gallery image should be top aligned, and not adjust itself to accommodate its captions. For example of how it would perhaps better look, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Gallery_tag Bye. -- Atri -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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