April 2010 - openSUSE Wiki (Deutsch) - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Team Portal
by Sascha 'saigkill' Manns 01 May '10

01 May '10

Hallo Freunde, so sieht dann wohl das Team Portal aus: http://wiki.opensuse.org/Portal:Teams -- Sincerely yours Sascha Manns open-slx GmbH openSUSE Community & Support Agent openSUSE Marketing Team Blog: http://saigkill.wordpress.com Web: http://www.open-slx.de (openSUSE Box Support German) Web: http://www.open-slx.com (openSUSE Box Support English) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki-de+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki-de+help(a)opensuse.org

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Meeting heute abend
by Sascha 'saigkill' Manns 21 Apr '10

21 Apr '10

Moin Freunde, ich wollte nur noch mal kurz auf unser heutiges Meeting aufmerksam machen: 17:30 CEST #opensuse-wiki-de Topics können wie immer hier hinzugefügt werden: http://de.opensuse.org/Wiki-Team/Meetings -- Sincerely yours Sascha Manns openSUSE Community & Support Agent openSUSE Marketing Team Blog: http://saigkill.wordpress.com Web: http://www.open-slx.de (openSUSE Box Support German) Web: http://www.open-slx.com (openSUSE Box Support English)

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openSUSE Weekly News
by Marcel Müller 16 Apr '10

16 Apr '10

Jap so siehts aus ;-) , siehe aktuelle c´t. Goggle isch im allgemeinen besser un bing bei Technischem (übersetzt alles was nur en bissle nach computer klingt in Computer"sprache") Linguatec macht au ziemlich gute Übersetzer kosten aber, vielleicht könnte man ja anfragen ob ma det gratis kriegt un defür en Translated by Linguatec logo hinmacht oder so :-) > Hallo, > > Theoretisch ist das ja nicht schlecht... > Ach ja meinst du mit bing den Microsofttranslator (Bing)? > Gruß, > Ferdinand Ja es ist Microsoft ;-) -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Marcel Müller -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Marcel Müller -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki-de+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki-de+help(a)opensuse.org

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icediver
by Marcel Müller 15 Apr '10

15 Apr '10

@Icediver ich hab dich hier eingetragen http://de.opensuse.org/Wiki-Team -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Marcel Müller -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki-de+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki-de+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] German Wiki & Multi-Language Concept
by Rupert Horstkötter 15 Apr '10

15 Apr '10

Moin, 2010/4/13 Michael Loeffler <michl(a)novell.com>: > Moin, > On Monday 12 April 2010 09:00:57 Rupert Horstkötter wrote: >> Community, >> >> with the new openSUSE Wiki at wiki.opensuse.org fast approaching and >> just around the corner, we're going to put additional workforce on it >> to hold the target launch date of June 1st 2010, which is prior to the >> release of openSUSE 11.3. >> > ./. >> 2) Multi-Language Concept >> In order to provide localized openSUSE documentation resources, i.e. >> wikis to our user community, we currently follow the Wiki Translation >> Process outlined at http://wiki.opensuse.org/Help:Translation. Time >> has shown that this concept has several drawbacks both from a >> initiating and a maintaining perspective. Thus I herewith propose the >> following changes (the rest will be kept as is): >> >> a) The initial creation of Mandatory pages, so far, has been done >> within the English Master Wiki and this is suboptimal because it >> fills up the master wiki. >> >> Thus I propose to create a new languages-server languages.opensuse.org >> serving as a temporary instance for initial translation efforts. >> That way, translators have a dedicated sandbox-server to build their >> localized Wiki prior requesting their own localized instance >> <languagecode>.opensuse.org. > I like the sandbox idea. I guess a new language wiki needs to follow the new > scheme we created in wiki.opensuse.org from the beginning, right? >> > This should indeed be a requirement once we're live with both the English and German Wikis on June 1st 2010, yes! Thanks for pointing this out! Best, R > ./. > Both the monthly meetings and the shut down of unmaintained wiki I think are > valuable methods to offer best information in our different languages wikis. >> Due to the current state of the Wiki concept implementation with a >> target launch date of June 1st 2010 for both the english and the >> german wikis, I'd like to encourage everyone interested in the >> discussion to focus on show-stopping aspects within the presented >> concept. Please step up within one week from now on (until Sun, the >> 18th of April) with objections. Time is pressing and there's still >> lots to do, but we're highly committed to push these efforts with >> additional workforce. The goal is to generate even more fuzz for the >> openSUSE project with the 11.3 release together with new sexy >> instances for both the english and german wiki. >> >> I'm looking forward to your comments and suggestions, > All together looks like a profound and doable concept. > Thanks for creating the concept and open this discussion (even if its not yet > a real discussion - maybe due to the broad acceptance of the concept). > Best > M >> R >> > > -- > Michael Löffler, Product Management > SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex > -- Rupert Horstkötter, open-slx gmbh openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Community Assistant http://en.opensuse.org/User:Rhorstkoetter Email: rhorstkoetter(a)opensuse.org Jabber: ruperthorstkoetter(a)googlemail.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki-de+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki-de+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] German Wiki & Multi-Language Concept
by Rupert Horstkötter 15 Apr '10

15 Apr '10

Shayon, 2010/4/14 Shayon Mukherjee <sj(a)opensuse.org>: > On 04/12/2010 12:30 PM, Rupert Horstkötter wrote: >> Community, >> >> with the new openSUSE Wiki at wiki.opensuse.org fast approaching and >> just around the corner, we're going to put additional workforce on it >> to hold the target launch date of June 1st 2010, which is prior to the >> release of openSUSE 11.3. >> >> In addition to the English Wiki, we'd love to launch the new >> german wiki at the same time in order to honor the significant >> reviewing contributions that had been done in the german wiki by a >> dedicated group of german contributors. We also see that the >> german openSUSE user community is relatively large and important >> for the project and distribution. >> >> In order to achieve this, I'd like to propose both a strategy for the >> german wiki as well as a realignment of our current multi-language >> concept for localized Wikis documented at >> http://wiki.opensuse.org/Help:Translation >> > >> >> b) I propose to introduce more strict commitment requirements for the >> maintenance of localized Wikis. Time has shown that initially created >> localized Wikis remain in an outdated/obsolete state and we need to >> avoid such a situation. I recommend to introduce a monthly meeting of >> Wiki maintainers at #opensuse-wiki to discuss needed requirements such >> as adoption of pages to new releases and syncing of content. > > +1 > >> >> The latter aspect is IMO very important: The language-specific >> instances aren't 1:1 copies of the english master wiki but vital >> communities by itself providing openSUSE documentation for a their >> target group. >> >> This is valuable content initially created in localized wikis and >> communication between maintainers is needed in order to sync (two-way >> direction) content for the profit of both the English master and the >> other localized Wikis. Also syncing between several localized Wikis >> should be improved. >> >> c) We should encourage localized (existing) communities to adopt the >> new structure scheme of the english wiki at wiki.opensuse.org. >> Furthermore we value the adoption of our reviewing processes for >> localized (existing) communities from a long-term >> perspective. Experiences with the german wiki have shown that, an >> engaged contributor community assumed, this is achievable. The >> maintainer meeting proposed in paragraph b) should support these >> efforts. >> >> d) We need to avoid "non-starters" and/or un-maintained Wikis. That >> means that granting a <languagecode>.opensuse.org DNS isn't a lifetime >> guarantee. Committed maintainers should provide hand-over candidates >> before they decide to move on (this certainly may happen) and instruct >> them to achieve daily business. If a localized community isn't >> maintained any longer for more than half a year and engagements to >> revive commitment for the localized instance fail, we're going to >> shutdown the localized wiki. >> >> Due to the current state of the Wiki concept implementation with a >> target launch date of June 1st 2010 for both the english and the >> german wikis, I'd like to encourage everyone interested in the >> discussion to focus on show-stopping aspects within the presented >> concept. Please step up within one week from now on (until Sun, the >> 18th of April) with objections. Time is pressing and there's still >> lots to do, but we're highly committed to push these efforts with >> additional workforce. The goal is to generate even more fuzz for the >> openSUSE project with the 11.3 release together with new sexy >> instances for both the english and german wiki. >> >> I'm looking forward to your comments and suggestions, >> R > > Hello , > Well what i observed and feel is that , for the reviewing process we > need those people who are good or rather pro at those topics , which we > lack.And so the wiki team members are fall short for this entire .Thus i > feel another call (like the previous) would be required in order to > attract more contributors or PRO's for the purpose . > While I second your comment, this multi-language concept has nothing to do with the current reviewing of Wiki content *confused*. That said, we'll make some more noise (again) in order to gain additional contributors once we managed to populate wiki.o.o with a notable amount of content. Jens (a colleague of mine from open-slx) is already ready to jump in and help is to achieve this particular task. Thanks, R > -- > Regards, > SJ(Shayon) > openSUSE > http://en.opensuse.org/User:Wwarlock > Twitter: ShayonM > -- Rupert Horstkötter, open-slx gmbh openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Community Assistant http://en.opensuse.org/User:Rhorstkoetter Email: rhorstkoetter(a)opensuse.org Jabber: ruperthorstkoetter(a)googlemail.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki-de+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki-de+help(a)opensuse.org

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dazuko
by Sascha 'saigkill' Manns 14 Apr '10

14 Apr '10

Hi Leute, den hier würde ich gerne löschen: http://de.opensuse.org/Klamav_mit_On-Access- Scanning_%28Dazuko%29_installieren Grund: 1.) AppArmor sollte deaktiviert werden, was ich für gefährlich halte 2.) AppArmor und dazuko sollen wohl nicht zusammen arbeiten. Ist das noch so? 3.) Diejenigen die dazuko brauchen, benötigen die Anleitung nicht. Was meint ihr? -- Sincerely yours Sascha Manns openSUSE Community & Support Agent openSUSE Marketing Team Blog: http://saigkill.wordpress.com Web: http://www.open-slx.de (openSUSE Box Support German) Web: http://www.open-slx.com (openSUSE Box Support English)

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Meeting
by Sascha 'saigkill' Manns 14 Apr '10

14 Apr '10

Servus Freunde, ich wollte nur kurz an unser heutiges Meeting erinnern. Heute um 17:30 CEST in #opensuse-wiki-de. Topics können gerne hier hinzugefügt werden: http://de.opensuse.org/Wiki-Team/Meetings Viel Spaß noch bis dahin. -- Sincerely yours Sascha Manns openSUSE Community & Support Agent openSUSE Marketing Team Blog: http://saigkill.wordpress.com Web: http://www.open-slx.de (openSUSE Box Support German) Web: http://www.open-slx.com (openSUSE Box Support English)

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openSUSE Weekly News
by Marcel Müller 13 Apr '10

13 Apr '10

> Versucht hab ich mich auch mal mit einem Übersetzer-Tool um einige Artikel > zu > übersetzen, aber mit meinen EN-Kenntnissen ist das aussichtslos. Da bin ich > dann auf die Idee gekommen das man da vielleicht erstmal nur die > Einleitungssätze übersetzt und die Verlinkung zum eigentlichen Artikel > einfügt. Zumindest solange bis sich User finden die da "richtige" > Übersetzungsarbeit leisten möchten. Das wäre vom Aufwand her vielleicht > gerade > noch machbar, würde vielleicht wenige Artikel bedeute aber dafür wenigstens > aktuellere auf der Startseite als das was derzeit da derzeit zu finden ist, > oder was meint ihr? Hey, ich denk des wär ne gute loesung, man koennte ja noch en link zu ner automatischen uebersetzung hinzufuegen, natuerlich mit dem Hinweis darauf, bing ist in technischen Sachen ziemlich gut. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Marcel Müller -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Marcel Müller -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki-de+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki-de+help(a)opensuse.org

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Archiv & Archivieren
by Uwe der Linuxsusefan 13 Apr '10

13 Apr '10

Hallo, wir haben nun einen weiteren Namensraum: → Archive ← eingerichtet bekommen. Das ermöglicht es uns Artikel auch zu Archivieren um diese als Info-Quelle bis zu einer endgültigen Lösung weiterhin nutzen zu können. Artikel die in Frage kommen und Archiviert werden sollten, können mit einer entsprechenden Vorlage versehen werden. Diese werden dann gesammelt und nach abschließenden Sichten durch Mod/Admin weiter verarbeitet bzw gegebenenfalls ins Archiv verschoben werden. Eine passende Vorlage samt der dafür geltenden Richtlinien die Anwendung finden können, findet ihr unter: |→ http://de.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Wiki_Tag_Guidelines ←| |→ http://de.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Wiki_Tag_Guidelines#Archivierungsrichtlinien ←| |→ http://de.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Wiki_Tag_Guidelines#Archivieren ←| Grüße aus dem Schwabenland, Uwe der Linuxsusefan Die SuSE sei mit euch, wo immer ihr seid .....

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