Liberation fonts as default
Hi all, Just installed Liberations Fonts (Red Hat) and changed KDE Desktop fonts to use them. I am not using sub pixel hinting and don't plan to use them due to MS patent over it. Now that there is an open replacement for MS fonts to distribute freely (I assume that is the point of Liberation fonts), I was thinking if the future distributions install them as default fonts in Desktop and apps, then it will look good out of the box. We must acknowledge the ubiquity of the proprietary Microsoft fonts. Lots of rants on the net is about people complaining how linux desktop looked ugly out of the box. gfx aside, I am sure we all know that the text in the screens is one key contribution to the user experience. Regards, -- Soyuz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ux+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ux+help@opensuse.org
Den Thursday 14 June 2007 06:02:29 skrev Mohammad Bhuyan:
Just installed Liberations Fonts (Red Hat) and changed KDE Desktop fonts to use them. I am not using sub pixel hinting and don't plan to use them due to MS patent over it.
Now that there is an open replacement for MS fonts to distribute freely (I assume that is the point of Liberation fonts), I was thinking if the future distributions install them as default fonts in Desktop and apps, then it will look good out of the box.
Think this is more a matter for -factory than for -ux. Therefore CC'ing. I also think this is something that needs to be reviewed. If it's not ready to be default it should at least be available on repos. In any case we need an official comment on it, and a good reason not to use it, if we won't, or people will automatically assume it's about politics and RedHat. Perhaps liberation fonts can replace Agfa-fonts.. one less proprietary package to worry about. From what I can tell Liberation Fonts is definitely a project we should support. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ux+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ux+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 14 June 2007 12:25:58 pm Martin Schlander wrote:
Perhaps liberation fonts can replace Agfa-fonts.. one less proprietary package to worry about.
I would love to see this happen. There are packages already available here: http://software.opensuse.org/download/home:/mrdocs/openSUSE_10.2/repodata/re... Couldn't this package just be moved into the oss repo or install disks? -- Best Regards, David Miller -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ux+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ux+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 14 June 2007 16:10:31 David Miller wrote:
I would love to see this happen. There are packages already available here: http://software.opensuse.org/download/home:/mrdocs/openSUSE_10.2/repodata/r
Couldn't this package just be moved into the oss repo or install disks?
How about doing some checking first? ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/noarch/liberation-fonts-0.1-11.noarch.rpm Bye, Steve -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ux+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ux+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 14 June 2007 06:02:29 Mohammad Bhuyan wrote:
I was thinking if the future distributions install them as default fonts in Desktop and apps, then it will look good out of the box.
What's wrong with DejaVu? Why has the default desktop to use MS metrics? I see sense for using it in office documents but desktop/application interfaces? Also when people here had a look at this first Liberation version they noticed several broken characters iirc, and if Novell/SUSE would decide to fix them it would have afaik to fork and give it a name according to Liberation license. Bye, Steve -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ux+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ux+help@opensuse.org
What's wrong with DejaVu? Why has the default desktop to use MS metrics? I see sense for using it in office documents but desktop/application interfaces?
The same reason of using it in office documents - they look good. Both paper and display. They survived the test of time with millions of user using them. But the main reason in my opinion would be equate the comparison. People like me coming from Windows are just used to it. And there are other few millions who would compare it to what they used to.
Also when people here had a look at this first Liberation version they noticed several broken characters iirc, and if Novell/SUSE would decide to fix them it would have afaik to fork and give it a name according to Liberation license.
As I said, I am no expert so if there is any broken characters, they didn't hit my eyes yet. Will try to notice as i use them. -- Mohammad (Soyuz) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ux+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ux+help@opensuse.org
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