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* John Gowin <jgowin@bellsouth.net>:
The male and female stages of life.
I don't want a 52k mass of hubris. Is there some reason why you sent a microsoft specific document/script/virus to a Linux mailing list? david. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
* David Porter <jcm@bigskytel.com>:
* John Gowin <jgowin@bellsouth.net>:
The male and female stages of life.
I don't want a 52k mass of hubris. Is there some reason why you sent a microsoft specific document/script/virus to a Linux mailing list?
Heh. It just occured to me that your mailer is outlook. (Flame the "technology", not the user...) david. -- Vanitas, vanitas, vanitas, vanitas: vanitas: vanitas. -- e.e.cummings in a blender -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Hi, On Mon, 19 Jun 2000, David Porter wrote:
* David Porter <jcm@bigskytel.com>:
* John Gowin <jgowin@bellsouth.net>:
The male and female stages of life.
I don't want a 52k mass of hubris. Is there some reason why you sent a microsoft specific document/script/virus to a Linux mailing list?
Heh. It just occured to me that your mailer is outlook. (Flame the "technology", not the user...)
I second this. Please do not flame the original author - he might not even know what happened. Bye, LenZ -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer@suse.de Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer 90443 Nuernberg, Germany -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Hi Lenz! On Mon, 19 Jun 2000, Lenz Grimmer wrote:
I don't want a 52k mass of hubris. Is there some reason why you sent a microsoft specific document/script/virus to a Linux mailing list?
Heh. It just occured to me that your mailer is outlook. (Flame the "technology", not the user...)
I second this. Please do not flame the original author - he might not even know what happened.
Of course his misfortune may aid others in stopping this spreading. I have warned all my family and friends. Sean -- Linux User: #124682 ICQ: 679813 My Current Uptime is 6d, 3h and 29m on Linux 2.2.15 ...Support the SuSE Newsgroup alt.os.linux.suse -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000, Sean Rima wrote:
Hi Lenz!
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000, Lenz Grimmer wrote:
I don't want a 52k mass of hubris. Is there some reason why you sent a microsoft specific document/script/virus to a Linux mailing list?
Heh. It just occured to me that your mailer is outlook. (Flame the "technology", not the user...)
I second this. Please do not flame the original author - he might not even know what happened.
Of course his misfortune may aid others in stopping this spreading. I have warned all my family and friends.
I just got a note from CERT about a new Microsoft security problem. Problem is the fix issued by microsoft doesn't fix the problem. The new problem? Seems the help files from IE can now be used to write viruii[viruses?]. Quoted from the CERT note "The Microsoft Windows HTML help facility (part of Internet Explorer) is able to execute arbitrary programs through an embedded "shortcut" in a compiled HTML file. This allows the help system to start wizards and other programs as part of the help facility. Unfortunately, it also makes it unsafe for users to open help files obtained from untrusted sources" Now help files are an issue. Nick -- Nick Zentena "The Linux issue," Wladawsky-Berger explained, "is whether this is a fundamentally disruptive technology, like the microprocessor and the Internet? We're betting that it is." -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Nick Zentena wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000, Sean Rima wrote:
Hi Lenz!
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000, Lenz Grimmer wrote:
I don't want a 52k mass of hubris. Is there some reason why you sent a microsoft specific document/script/virus to a Linux mailing list?
Heh. It just occured to me that your mailer is outlook. (Flame the "technology", not the user...)
I second this. Please do not flame the original author - he might not even know what happened.
Of course his misfortune may aid others in stopping this spreading. I have warned all my family and friends.
I just got a note from CERT about a new Microsoft security problem. Problem is the fix issued by microsoft doesn't fix the problem. The new problem? Seems the help files from IE can now be used to write viruii[viruses?].
Quoted from the CERT note
"The Microsoft Windows HTML help facility (part of Internet Explorer) is able to execute arbitrary programs through an embedded "shortcut" in a compiled HTML file. This allows the help system to start wizards and other programs as part of the help facility. Unfortunately, it also makes it unsafe for users to open help files obtained from untrusted sources"
Now help files are an issue.
Nick
Well, now I know wht my windoze got cray on me. :/ It tried to install OutLook 2k right after I clicked the attachment! Virus-activation? BahahahahaaaaD.... Was it his intention to send the doc? Is this the new I love you-virus-clone? Probably was. The I LOVE YOU-virus works in the same manner: attaching a would-be textfile (.TXT) which shows a textfile while executing something else. The user doesn't know, because (s)he's laughing his/her head off! (it was a funny text) Since many users hide their file-extentions, the file looks like: file.txt instead of file.txt.shs Boy.. Another confirmation: I *DO* hate micro$oft, windoze and all things/strings attached to it. Rogier -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
No offense to all of those who clicked it, but keeping your system virus free isn't merely a responsiblity that should be laid on software companies. I agree Microsoft has some holes in Outlook, but with smart handling of attachments, disabling auto-running of scripts, and other simple jobs - your system will stay virus free. When computers where newer, no one would ever blame the manufacture for such problems, and while this is on a much larger scale, you should still remember that it's your job to operate the computer responsibly. Just my $0.02 cents, which can be traded in for .5 bars of gold pressed latnum. -Tim ----------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy R. Butler Universal Networks Information Tech. Consultant Christian Web Services Since 1996 ICQ #12495932 AIM: Uninettm An Authorized IPSwitch Reseller tbutler@uninetsolutions.com http://www.uninetsolutions.com ===================== "Solutions that Work" =====================
-----Original Message----- From: Rogier Maas [mailto:icarus@guldennet.nl] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 5:10 PM To: zentena@hophead.dyndns.org Cc: Sean Rima; SuSE Linux Subject: Re: [SLE] Re: Jokes
Nick Zentena wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000, Sean Rima wrote:
Hi Lenz!
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000, Lenz Grimmer wrote:
I don't want a 52k mass of hubris. Is there some reason
why you sent a
microsoft specific document/script/virus to a Linux mailing list?
Heh. It just occured to me that your mailer is outlook. (Flame the "technology", not the user...)
I second this. Please do not flame the original author - he might not even know what happened.
Of course his misfortune may aid others in stopping this spreading. I have warned all my family and friends.
I just got a note from CERT about a new Microsoft security problem. Problem is the fix issued by microsoft doesn't fix the problem. The new problem? Seems the help files from IE can now be used to write viruii[viruses?].
Quoted from the CERT note
"The Microsoft Windows HTML help facility (part of Internet Explorer) is able to execute arbitrary programs through an embedded "shortcut" in a compiled HTML file. This allows the help system to start wizards and other programs as part of the help facility. Unfortunately, it also makes it unsafe for users to open help files obtained from untrusted sources"
Now help files are an issue.
Nick
Well, now I know wht my windoze got cray on me. :/ It tried to install OutLook 2k right after I clicked the attachment! Virus-activation?
BahahahahaaaaD....
Was it his intention to send the doc? Is this the new I love you-virus-clone? Probably was. The I LOVE YOU-virus works in the same manner: attaching a would-be textfile (.TXT) which shows a textfile while executing something else. The user doesn't know, because (s)he's laughing his/her head off! (it was a funny text) Since many users hide their file-extentions, the file looks like: file.txt instead of file.txt.shs
Boy.. Another confirmation: I *DO* hate micro$oft, windoze and all things/strings attached to it.
Rogier
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At 06:09 PM 06/19/00 -0500, Timothy R. Butler wrote:
No offense to all of those who clicked it, but keeping your system virus free isn't merely a responsiblity that should be laid on software companies. I agree Microsoft has some holes in Outlook, but with smart handling of attachments, disabling auto-running of scripts, and other simple jobs - your system will stay virus free.
Well, even the best efforts to protect yourself can be blocked by a bad OS: I have my Win 98 machine set to display file extensions (the default is to NOT display registered file types). Yet this file type (.shs) is hidden anyway, showing the file in Explorer as a simply a .txt file. Bill Moseley mailto:moseley@hank.org -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
I have to agree with Timothy here. I've got prompts for scripts set, but even so, didn't open the attachment because although, like you I couldn't at first see the extension, the Icon depicting the file type wasn't one I recognised. To make sure I could see the filename in full I attempted to save the file to disk. When the file save dialogue window popped up, *then* it was possible to see the full .txt.shs extension. Although I didn't know what it was at that point, my suspicions were doing overtime, so I just deleted it without doing anything more. John -----Original Message----- From: Bill Moseley [mailto:moseley@hank.org] Sent: 20 June 2000 15:07 To: SuSE Mailing List Subject: RE: [SLE] Re: Jokes At 06:09 PM 06/19/00 -0500, Timothy R. Butler wrote:
No offense to all of those who clicked it, but keeping your system virus free isn't merely a responsiblity that should be laid on software companies. I agree Microsoft has some holes in Outlook, but with smart handling of attachments, disabling auto-running of scripts, and other simple jobs - your system will stay virus free.
Well, even the best efforts to protect yourself can be blocked by a bad OS: I have my Win 98 machine set to display file extensions (the default is to NOT display registered file types). Yet this file type (.shs) is hidden anyway, showing the file in Explorer as a simply a .txt file. Bill Moseley mailto:moseley@hank.org -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Bill, Are you sure you are not infected? I believe the only reason (other than telling Windows) that would cause that to disappear is the virus itself. I'm pretty sure I can see shs files. -Tim ----------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy R. Butler Universal Networks Information Tech. Consultant Christian Web Services Since 1996 ICQ #12495932 AIM: Uninettm An Authorized IPSwitch Reseller tbutler@uninetsolutions.com http://www.uninetsolutions.com ===================== "Solutions that Work" =====================
-----Original Message----- From: Bill Moseley [mailto:moseley@hank.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 9:07 AM To: SuSE Mailing List Subject: RE: [SLE] Re: Jokes
At 06:09 PM 06/19/00 -0500, Timothy R. Butler wrote:
No offense to all of those who clicked it, but keeping your system virus free isn't merely a responsiblity that should be laid on software companies. I agree Microsoft has some holes in Outlook, but with smart handling of attachments, disabling auto-running of scripts, and other simple jobs - your system will stay virus free.
Well, even the best efforts to protect yourself can be blocked by a bad OS:
I have my Win 98 machine set to display file extensions (the default is to NOT display registered file types). Yet this file type (.shs) is hidden anyway, showing the file in Explorer as a simply a .txt file.
Bill Moseley mailto:moseley@hank.org
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At 02:11 PM 06/25/00 -0500, Timothy R. Butler wrote:
Bill, Are you sure you are not infected? I believe the only reason (other than telling Windows) that would cause that to disappear is the virus itself. I'm pretty sure I can see shs files.
Hi, http://www.cert.org/current/current_activity.html "It is important to note that, by default, Windows operating systems are configured to hide the ".SHS" file extension from the user." Bill Moseley mailto:moseley@hank.org -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Bill Moseley wrote:
At 02:11 PM 06/25/00 -0500, Timothy R. Butler wrote:
Bill, Are you sure you are not infected? I believe the only reason (other than telling Windows) that would cause that to disappear is the virus itself. I'm pretty sure I can see shs files.
Hi,
http://www.cert.org/current/current_activity.html
"It is important to note that, by default, Windows operating systems are configured to hide the ".SHS" file extension from the user."
On a default Windows install ALL file extensions are hidden so that's not a surprise. I hadn't heard that Windows hides .shs extensions even when you choose to show file extensions. If that is the case, then Windows really blows. Greg -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
* Timothy R. Butler <tbutler@uninetsolutions.com>:
Bill, Are you sure you are not infected? I believe the only reason (other than telling Windows) that would cause that to disappear is the virus itself. I'm pretty sure I can see shs files.
According to http://www.cert.org/current/current_activity.html#virus it some extensions are hidden whether the user explicitly requests that extensions are hidden or not (3rd paragraph): "...a registry key named "NeverShowExt" ... is associated with certain file types, including ".SHS" in the Windows registry. This registry key causes Windows to hide file extensions such as ".SHS" regardless of other user configuration choices. So, the file "life_stages.txt.shs" may appear to be named "life_stages.txt"." Microsoft doesn't make my decisions for me, david. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, David Porter wrote:
* Timothy R. Butler <tbutler@uninetsolutions.com>:
Bill, Are you sure you are not infected? I believe the only reason (other than telling Windows) that would cause that to disappear is the virus itself. I'm pretty sure I can see shs files.
According to http://www.cert.org/current/current_activity.html#virus it some extensions are hidden whether the user explicitly requests that extensions are hidden or not (3rd paragraph):
"...a registry key named "NeverShowExt" ... is associated with certain file types, including ".SHS" in the Windows registry. This registry key causes Windows to hide file extensions such as ".SHS" regardless of other user configuration choices. So, the file "life_stages.txt.shs" may appear to be named "life_stages.txt"."
Microsoft doesn't make my decisions for me,
Same here. That is such a lame default I can't believe they implemented it. If I want to see file extensions, I want to see them all. Greg -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Greg Thomas wrote:
Same here. That is such a lame default I can't believe they implemented it. If I want to see file extensions, I want to see them all.
Greg
Aha! But you are not thinking like a good little "gpl" (general public luser)! M$ has decided that seeing all those funny little extensions will confuse you, so in good, caring, Big-Brother style, they just put them out of sight for you. Besides, how can they convince people that DOS is dead, if people keep seeing those pesky extensions? -- This Email is 100% Virus Free! How do I know? Because no Microsoft products were used to generate it! Regards Don Hansford ECKYTECH COMPUTING SuSE Linux 6.4 -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000, Lenz Grimmer wrote:
Hi,
I second this. Please do not flame the original author - he might not even know what happened.
Bye, LenZ
Can we politely flame his network administrator? This *IS* obviously someone's fault. I'm only 1/2 serious, but something still "enables" these things to happen. In a commercial environment, the only way these things can spread is by neglect of the person responsible for the network. have fun..:) -- Rocky -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Rocky McGaugh wrote:
Can we politely flame his network administrator? This *IS* obviously someone's fault.
I'm only 1/2 serious, but something still "enables" these things to happen. In a commercial environment, the only way these things can spread is by neglect of the person responsible for the network.
This raises an interesting point. Is there some way to counteract these type of worms (that replicate themselves via your email address book)? Possibly a script to detect sudden increases in mail activity from a user who doesn't normally send bulk emails? Or maybe something to deny users sending more than a certain number of mails in a hit, without being members of a "bulkmail" group? Just a few braindrops :-) AFAIK, the biggest spread of these worms is via corporate sites, where some people have address books numbering in the hundreds. -- Regards Don Hansford ECKYTECH COMPUTING Surfing the Net (without crashing) With SuSE 6.4 Linux (Thanx Linus!) "Microsoft democratised the computer market and served as a catalyst in making computers available to everybody. Later, however, they did as many revolutionaries do -- they became dictators. History has taught us the inevitable fate of dictators." -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
So what exactly is this .shs thing? I did alert my friends though. Calyth -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
David Porter wrote:
* John Gowin <jgowin@bellsouth.net>:
The male and female stages of life.
I don't want a 52k mass of hubris. Is there some reason why you sent a microsoft specific document/script/virus to a Linux mailing list?
I'm sure he didn't do it deliberately. In fact, he's probably mortified at the havoc wreaked under his name. Let's hope that his Linux partition didn't get trashed along with his Windows partition. A side comment: there's no way I can see that comes within ten miles of making that file executable under Linux. And if it were transcribed somehow to a shell script, running that script still wouldn't do much if any harm outside of the home directory tree of the person running it. Paul Abrahams -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000, John Gowin wrote: Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="LIFE_STAGES.TXT.SHS" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ____________ sent on Linux ____________ -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Hi All, Well, I am VERY glad I was in a Tux session when this one came thru! :-) Also, good work Rod, re installing Tux! It is a good thing, when one can pass on the fruits of endeavour. "....ouzo is on me!" Hmmm, which taverna was that again? :-) Now is it just me, or are there a few Greeks on this list? ;-) Ok, time to stop avoiding other work. *BFN* Greek Geek :-) "The peace of the Pakeha is more to be feared than his war...." - Traditional Maori saying from the 1870's. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Hi Bobby, Do you really qualify as a `Greek' Geek? I see the email addie is NZ.
Also, good work Rod, re installing Tux! It is a good thing, when one can pass on the fruits of endeavour.
It took me forever to do my first install and I never got x to work. Then I got SuSE 6.0 and it only took 3 days and x did finally work. SuSE 6.3 now has a nice home on my friend's HD. He is 16 and that makes really susceptible to M$ propaganda. So there was no one else around, I decided to help the Tux.
"....ouzo is on me!" Hmmm, which taverna was that again? :-)
Take your pick as long as it is in Evia. B-)
Now is it just me, or are there a few Greeks on this list? ;-)
Out of curiosity I scanned the headers in my SuSE folder. There are a couple of us (Hi Nevada, Tabanna), but with a name like Johnson you can't expect me to be a REAL Greek, even if I live here. Rod -- 100% MS FREE Absolutely no component of Microsoft was used in the generation or posting of this e-mail. On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, Greek Geek wrote:
Hi All,
Well, I am VERY glad I was in a Tux session when this one came thru! :-)
Ok, time to stop avoiding other work.
*BFN*
Greek Geek :-)
"The peace of the Pakeha is more to be feared than his war...." - Traditional Maori saying from the 1870's.
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