[opensuse] running wordpress on Leap 15.1
Hi all, I'm running wordpress on two Leap 15.1 systems, but (from the built in health check in WP 5.4): "Your site is running an older version of PHP (7.2.5) PHP is the programming language used to build and maintain WordPress. Newer versions of PHP are faster and more secure, so staying up to date will help your site’s overall performance and security. The minimum recommended version of PHP is 7.3." I can't simply add the obs phpo7 and extensions/php7 repos, since several extensions in there don't work properly right now - namely the redisd, memcached, and geoip ones. Any ideas? No, not going to build php from source locally. Cheers MH -- Mathias Homann Mathias.Homann@openSUSE.org Jabber (XMPP): lemmy@tuxonline.tech IRC: [Lemmy] on freenode and ircnet (bouncer active) telegram: https://telegram.me/lemmy98 keybase: https://keybase.io/lemmy gpg key fingerprint: 8029 2240 F4DD 7776 E7D2 C042 6B8E 029E 13F2 C102 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 08:16:30 +0200 Mathias Homann wrote:
Hi all,
I'm running wordpress on two Leap 15.1 systems, but (from the built in health check in WP 5.4):
"Your site is running an older version of PHP (7.2.5) PHP is the programming language used to build and maintain WordPress. Newer versions of PHP are faster and more secure, so staying up to date will help your site’s overall performance and security. The minimum recommended version of PHP is 7.3."
I can't simply add the obs phpo7 and extensions/php7 repos, since several extensions in there don't work properly right now - namely the redisd, memcached, and geoip ones.
Any ideas? No, not going to build php from source locally.
Cheers MH
Hi Mathias, It's a bit startling seeing WP and Leap 15.1 mentioned in the same sentence, particularly given the aforementioned 'health check' (what a PITA!) Are these dev / test / learning or production WP installations? If the latter, you might want to consider choosing a distribution which is focused on supporting LTS web hosting environments, even if through using something like Docker. (*) https://blog.remirepo.net/pages/English-FAQ#goal regards, Carl Are you aware of a comparable repository to Remi's(*) for the opensuse -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
If i wanted to run the two hosts on RHEL + remi ... i would be running them on RHEL + remi, and I wouldn't be asking here. just saying. Cheers MH Am Mittwoch, 29. April 2020, 09:30:16 CEST schrieb Carl Hartung:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 08:16:30 +0200
Mathias Homann wrote:
Hi all,
I'm running wordpress on two Leap 15.1 systems, but (from the built in health check in WP 5.4):
"Your site is running an older version of PHP (7.2.5) PHP is the programming language used to build and maintain WordPress. Newer versions of PHP are faster and more secure, so staying up to date will help your site’s overall performance and security. The minimum recommended version of PHP is 7.3."
I can't simply add the obs phpo7 and extensions/php7 repos, since several extensions in there don't work properly right now - namely the redisd, memcached, and geoip ones.
Any ideas? No, not going to build php from source locally.
Cheers MH
Hi Mathias,
It's a bit startling seeing WP and Leap 15.1 mentioned in the same sentence, particularly given the aforementioned 'health check' (what a PITA!)
Are these dev / test / learning or production WP installations?
If the latter, you might want to consider choosing a distribution which is focused on supporting LTS web hosting environments, even if through using something like Docker.
(*) https://blog.remirepo.net/pages/English-FAQ#goal
regards,
Carl
Are you aware of a comparable repository to Remi's(*) for the opensuse
-- Mathias Homann Mathias.Homann@openSUSE.org OBS: lemmy04 Jabber (XMPP): lemmy@tuxonline.tech IRC: [Lemmy] on freenode and ircnet (bouncer active) telegram: https://telegram.me/lemmy98 keybase: https://keybase.io/lemmy gpg key fingerprint: 8029 2240 F4DD 7776 E7D2 C042 6B8E 029E 13F2 C102
I see. So, not only do you avoid answering politely asked questions, you also selectively top post. What's your problem? On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 10:48:30 +0200 Mathias Homann wrote:
If i wanted to run the two hosts on RHEL + remi ... i would be running them on RHEL + remi, and I wouldn't be asking here.
just saying.
Cheers MH
Am Mittwoch, 29. April 2020, 09:30:16 CEST schrieb Carl Hartung:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 08:16:30 +0200
Mathias Homann wrote:
Hi all,
I'm running wordpress on two Leap 15.1 systems, but (from the built in health check in WP 5.4):
"Your site is running an older version of PHP (7.2.5) PHP is the programming language used to build and maintain WordPress. Newer versions of PHP are faster and more secure, so staying up to date will help your site’s overall performance and security. The minimum recommended version of PHP is 7.3."
I can't simply add the obs phpo7 and extensions/php7 repos, since several extensions in there don't work properly right now - namely the redisd, memcached, and geoip ones.
Any ideas? No, not going to build php from source locally.
Cheers MH
Hi Mathias,
It's a bit startling seeing WP and Leap 15.1 mentioned in the same sentence, particularly given the aforementioned 'health check' (what a PITA!)
Are these dev / test / learning or production WP installations?
If the latter, you might want to consider choosing a distribution which is focused on supporting LTS web hosting environments, even if through using something like Docker.
(*) https://blog.remirepo.net/pages/English-FAQ#goal
regards,
Carl
Are you aware of a comparable repository to Remi's(*) for the opensuse
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Hi On 4/29/20 5:00 PM, Carl Hartung wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 08:16:30 +0200 Mathias Homann wrote:
Hi all,
I'm running wordpress on two Leap 15.1 systems, but (from the built in health check in WP 5.4):
"Your site is running an older version of PHP (7.2.5) PHP is the programming language used to build and maintain WordPress. Newer versions of PHP are faster and more secure, so staying up to date will help your site’s overall performance and security. The minimum recommended version of PHP is 7.3."
This is ok, think of this like kernel packages where version numbers don't matter so much. SUSE's packaging team will backport any security fixes from 7.3 to 7.2
It's a bit startling seeing WP and Leap 15.1 mentioned in the same sentence, particularly given the aforementioned 'health check' (what a PITA!)
Are these dev / test / learning or production WP installations?
If the latter, you might want to consider choosing a distribution which is focused on supporting LTS web hosting environments, even if through using something like Docker.
Leap should work fine as an LTS hosting environment (if you are happy to upgrade onceish a year to the next Leap point version) Leap uses the same php packages as SUSE Linux Enterprise. -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B
Addendum / Correction: Mathias, I meant to ask if you were aware of any resources in the SLE / opensuse sphere comparable to Remi's? I added the link and overlooked typing the question! Age! Sorry! :) Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Mathias Homann wrote:
Hi all,
I'm running wordpress on two Leap 15.1 systems, but (from the built in health check in WP 5.4):
"Your site is running an older version of PHP (7.2.5) PHP is the programming language used to build and maintain WordPress. Newer versions of PHP are faster and more secure, so staying up to date will help your site’s overall performance and security. The minimum recommended version of PHP is 7.3."
I can't simply add the obs phpo7 and extensions/php7 repos, since several extensions in there don't work properly right now - namely the redisd, memcached, and geoip ones.
Any ideas?
Disable the WP health check ? If WP requires PHP 7.3, but certain extensions don't support that, I don't see how you can solve it. Unless maybe you upgrade to 7.3, and retain those extensions at their current levels. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (10.6°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am Mittwoch, 29. April 2020, 10:02:01 CEST schrieb Per Jessen:
Mathias Homann wrote:
Hi all,
I'm running wordpress on two Leap 15.1 systems, but (from the built in health check in WP 5.4):
"Your site is running an older version of PHP (7.2.5) PHP is the programming language used to build and maintain WordPress. Newer versions of PHP are faster and more secure, so staying up to date will help your site’s overall performance and security. The minimum recommended version of PHP is 7.3."
I can't simply add the obs phpo7 and extensions/php7 repos, since several extensions in there don't work properly right now - namely the redisd, memcached, and geoip ones.
Any ideas?
Disable the WP health check ?
If WP requires PHP 7.3, but certain extensions don't support that, I don't see how you can solve it. Unless maybe you upgrade to 7.3, and retain those extensions at their current levels.
my specific problem here's not that some modules don't support php 7.3, but the fact that for some reason those modules aren't being rebuilt in the php:extensions repo on OBS. it looks as if php7-memcached, php7-redis, and php7-geoip in php:extensions have not been rebuilt against the php version in devel:languages:php... Any suggestions? Cheers MH -- Mathias Homann Mathias.Homann@openSUSE.org OBS: lemmy04 Jabber (XMPP): lemmy@tuxonline.tech IRC: [Lemmy] on freenode and ircnet (bouncer active) telegram: https://telegram.me/lemmy98 keybase: https://keybase.io/lemmy gpg key fingerprint: 8029 2240 F4DD 7776 E7D2 C042 6B8E 029E 13F2 C102
Mathias Homann wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 29. April 2020, 10:02:01 CEST schrieb Per Jessen:
Mathias Homann wrote:
Hi all,
I'm running wordpress on two Leap 15.1 systems, but (from the built in health check in WP 5.4):
"Your site is running an older version of PHP (7.2.5) PHP is the programming language used to build and maintain WordPress. Newer versions of PHP are faster and more secure, so staying up to date will help your site’s overall performance and security. The minimum recommended version of PHP is 7.3."
I can't simply add the obs phpo7 and extensions/php7 repos, since several extensions in there don't work properly right now - namely the redisd, memcached, and geoip ones.
Any ideas?
Disable the WP health check ?
If WP requires PHP 7.3, but certain extensions don't support that, I don't see how you can solve it. Unless maybe you upgrade to 7.3, and retain those extensions at their current levels.
my specific problem here's not that some modules don't support php 7.3, but the fact that for some reason those modules aren't being rebuilt in the php:extensions repo on OBS.
Aha, okay. So you can't actually upgrade ?
it looks as if php7-memcached, php7-redis, and php7-geoip in php:extensions have not been rebuilt against the php version in devel:languages:php...
You _could_ build them yourself, but there is presumably a reason why they weren't built. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (11.7°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am Mittwoch, 29. April 2020, 10:43:39 CEST schrieb Per Jessen:
Mathias Homann wrote:
my specific problem here's not that some modules don't support php 7.3, but the fact that for some reason those modules aren't being rebuilt in the php:extensions repo on OBS.
Aha, okay. So you can't actually upgrade ?
I can upgrade the whole php stuff but those three packages stay on the version from the main OSS repo, and when I try to force them to get upgraded to the version from php:extensions zypper rolls the whole rest of the PHP stack back to what's in the main OSS repo...
it looks as if php7-memcached, php7-redis, and php7-geoip in php:extensions have not been rebuilt against the php version in devel:languages:php...
You _could_ build them yourself, but there is presumably a reason why they weren't built.
the thing is - they are built as recent as a few weeks ago, and no failures since then either... Cheers MH -- Mathias Homann Mathias.Homann@openSUSE.org OBS: lemmy04 Jabber (XMPP): lemmy@tuxonline.tech IRC: [Lemmy] on freenode and ircnet (bouncer active) telegram: https://telegram.me/lemmy98 keybase: https://keybase.io/lemmy gpg key fingerprint: 8029 2240 F4DD 7776 E7D2 C042 6B8E 029E 13F2 C102
On 29/04/2020 10.49, Mathias Homann wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 29. April 2020, 10:43:39 CEST schrieb Per Jessen:
Mathias Homann wrote:
my specific problem here's not that some modules don't support php 7.3, but the fact that for some reason those modules aren't being rebuilt in the php:extensions repo on OBS.
Aha, okay. So you can't actually upgrade ?
I can upgrade the whole php stuff but those three packages stay on the version from the main OSS repo, and when I try to force them to get upgraded to the version from php:extensions zypper rolls the whole rest of the PHP stack back to what's in the main OSS repo...
Try yast? With the repository selected, click on switch system packages to this repo Perhaps. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Mathias Homann wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 29. April 2020, 10:43:39 CEST schrieb Per Jessen:
Mathias Homann wrote:
my specific problem here's not that some modules don't support php 7.3, but the fact that for some reason those modules aren't being rebuilt in the php:extensions repo on OBS.
Aha, okay. So you can't actually upgrade ?
I can upgrade the whole php stuff but those three packages stay on the version from the main OSS repo,
That sounds like it is what you want, but I guess it doesn't work - the extensions have a version check?
it looks as if php7-memcached, php7-redis, and php7-geoip in php:extensions have not been rebuilt against the php version in devel:languages:php...
You _could_ build them yourself, but there is presumably a reason why they weren't built.
the thing is - they are built as recent as a few weeks ago, and no failures since then either...
Hmm. There must be a package maintainer you can ask about that. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (11.8°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 04/29/2020 03:49 AM, Mathias Homann wrote:
You _could_ build them yourself, but there is presumably a reason why they weren't built. the thing is - they are built as recent as a few weeks ago, and no failures since then either...
Cheers MH
PHP is somewhat of a mess right now. With the number of recent changes that don't provide backwards compatibility -- there will be issues. (not to mention that there are a number of enterprise web apps that still haven't moved from php 5.6 yet.... This is just growth in the opensource world -- it isn't always pretty. Though one thing is for sure, WP is actively developed and will ensure it will be working with whatever the next php is. (that doesn't resolve the timing issue issue between version for you) It is a constantly moving target. Add a few additional php tools from other than WP and you really start to see what a tangled web of version support we weave. If you do end up having to build all of php -- it isn't bad, it's about a 15-20 minute build. (depending upon you computer). The key is finding out exactly why it is failing before attempting anything. (no use in doing the build if you are not going to solve anything by doing it) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On Sun, 3 May 2020 03:57:00 -0500
"David C. Rankin"
On 04/29/2020 03:49 AM, Mathias Homann wrote:
You _could_ build them yourself, but there is presumably a reason why they weren't built. the thing is - they are built as recent as a few weeks ago, and no failures since then either...
Cheers MH
PHP is somewhat of a mess right now.
I think you can simplify that sentence ... "PHP is somewhat of a mess" ... sums it up for me in a timeless way :) :P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 4/29/20 6:05 PM, Mathias Homann wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 29. April 2020, 10:02:01 CEST schrieb Per Jessen:
Mathias Homann wrote:
Hi all,
I'm running wordpress on two Leap 15.1 systems, but (from the built in health check in WP 5.4):
"Your site is running an older version of PHP (7.2.5) PHP is the programming language used to build and maintain WordPress. Newer versions of PHP are faster and more secure, so staying up to date will help your site’s overall performance and security. The minimum recommended version of PHP is 7.3."
I can't simply add the obs phpo7 and extensions/php7 repos, since several extensions in there don't work properly right now - namely the redisd, memcached, and geoip ones.
Any ideas?
Disable the WP health check ?
If WP requires PHP 7.3, but certain extensions don't support that, I don't see how you can solve it. Unless maybe you upgrade to 7.3, and retain those extensions at their current levels.
my specific problem here's not that some modules don't support php 7.3, but the fact that for some reason those modules aren't being rebuilt in the php:extensions repo on OBS.
it looks as if php7-memcached, php7-redis, and php7-geoip in php:extensions have not been rebuilt against the php version in devel:languages:php...
Any suggestions?
This is buy design, the purpose of php:extensions is to test and prepare packages against the current version of php in a distro. It also means that if someone is in the process of updating php and it causes brakeages in the staging process which take a while to fix the packages in php:extensions aren't blocked from being updated. If you actually really really need the latest php because it has new features (not security fixes because they will get backported to the version in Leap by SUSE). Then you could create an account on open build service then branch both php and the modules you want into the same repository in your home area then everything will build against the latest php, it should also automatically update but be warned if a broken / untested version of something gets uploaded you will have the same untested broken version (which hopefully in most cases would just lead to stuff not building). Cheers -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B
On 29/04/2020 08.16, Mathias Homann wrote:
Hi all,
I'm running wordpress on two Leap 15.1 systems, but (from the built in health check in WP 5.4):
"Your site is running an older version of PHP (7.2.5) PHP is the programming language used to build and maintain WordPress. Newer versions of PHP are faster and more secure, so staying up to date will help your site’s overall performance and security. The minimum recommended version of PHP is 7.3."
I don't know about PHP specifically, but you should know that this is generically not true for openSUSE Leap (or SLE), because security issues are patched while keeping the same old version. They are backported with effort. In the case of openSUSE or SUSE the release number is not a valid test. They have to test instead for specific features or holes, which is of course quite hard to do. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
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