I'm planning on upgrading a computer from openSUSE 13.1 to Leap. Will there be any issues with this? Or should I start from fresh install? tnx jk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op dinsdag 3 mei 2016 21:41:02 schreef James Knott:
I'm planning on upgrading a computer from openSUSE 13.1 to Leap. Will there be any issues with this? Or should I start from fresh install?
tnx jk
I would recommend to do a fresh install. -- fr.gr. member openSUSE Freek de Kruijf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2016-05-04 03:41, James Knott wrote:
I'm planning on upgrading a computer from openSUSE 13.1 to Leap. Will there be any issues with this?
dup or dvd? a dup is not supported but might work, as always. That's what the wiki says. A dvd upgrade also might work. I haven't tried it, but the dvd upgrade method has better chances to work on a version jump. Same recommendation as always: do a full backup, them attempt it. If it fails, you can either try a fresh install, with access to your configuration files in the backup, or restore and try again the upgrade, once you find out why it failed and how to solve the hurdle. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On 05/04/2016 08:09 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2016-05-04 03:41, James Knott wrote:
I'm planning on upgrading a computer from openSUSE 13.1 to Leap. Will there be any issues with this? dup or dvd?
a dup is not supported but might work, as always. That's what the wiki says. A dvd upgrade also might work. I haven't tried it, but the dvd upgrade method has better chances to work on a version jump.
Same recommendation as always: do a full backup, them attempt it. If it fails, you can either try a fresh install, with access to your configuration files in the backup, or restore and try again the upgrade, once you find out why it failed and how to solve the hurdle.
From DVD. I always do a backup first. My concern was Leap might be significantly different in some way that might cause problems.
After I get Leap installed, I'll then have to install the latest dhcpcd, which supports dhcpv6-pd, which wicked apparently doesn't. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2016-05-04 14:39, James Knott wrote:
On 05/04/2016 08:09 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
From DVD. I always do a backup first. My concern was Leap might be significantly different in some way that might cause problems.
Yes, it is different, but I don't know what effects it might have. I haven't tried myself, so I haven't updated the wiki.
After I get Leap installed, I'll then have to install the latest dhcpcd, which supports dhcpv6-pd, which wicked apparently doesn't.
Ah, yes, I read of your problem. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
James Knott wrote:
On 05/04/2016 08:09 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2016-05-04 03:41, James Knott wrote:
I'm planning on upgrading a computer from openSUSE 13.1 to Leap. Will there be any issues with this? dup or dvd?
a dup is not supported but might work, as always. That's what the wiki says. A dvd upgrade also might work. I haven't tried it, but the dvd upgrade method has better chances to work on a version jump.
Same recommendation as always: do a full backup, them attempt it. If it fails, you can either try a fresh install, with access to your configuration files in the backup, or restore and try again the upgrade, once you find out why it failed and how to solve the hurdle.
From DVD. I always do a backup first. My concern was Leap might be significantly different in some way that might cause problems.
After I get Leap installed, I'll then have to install the latest dhcpcd, which supports dhcpv6-pd, which wicked apparently doesn't.
As an alternative, you could build the new dhcpcd from rpm source on your 13.1 system. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (15.8°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/04/2016 10:06 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
As an alternative, you could build the new dhcpcd from rpm source on your 13.1 system.
What's the procedure for doing that? I've already tried an rpm that was supposedly built for 13.1 and it killed dhcp completely. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
James Knott wrote:
On 05/04/2016 10:06 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
As an alternative, you could build the new dhcpcd from rpm source on your 13.1 system.
What's the procedure for doing that? I've already tried an rpm that was supposedly built for 13.1 and it killed dhcp completely.
You get hold of the source rpm, install it, then "rpmbuild -bb <specfile>. You may need to install some extra -devel packages and tools. Your new rpm should end up /usr/src/packages/RPMS I believe. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (14.0°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/04/2016 01:51 PM, Per Jessen wrote:
James Knott wrote:
On 05/04/2016 10:06 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
As an alternative, you could build the new dhcpcd from rpm source on your 13.1 system. What's the procedure for doing that? I've already tried an rpm that was supposedly built for 13.1 and it killed dhcp completely. You get hold of the source rpm, install it, then "rpmbuild -bb <specfile>. You may need to install some extra -devel packages and tools. Your new rpm should end up /usr/src/packages/RPMS I believe.
What do you mean by <specfile>? Is that something I'm supposed to create? Please understand, I have never built an rpm from source. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* James Knott
On 05/04/2016 01:51 PM, Per Jessen wrote:
James Knott wrote:
On 05/04/2016 10:06 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
As an alternative, you could build the new dhcpcd from rpm source on your 13.1 system. What's the procedure for doing that? I've already tried an rpm that was supposedly built for 13.1 and it killed dhcp completely. You get hold of the source rpm, install it, then "rpmbuild -bb <specfile>. You may need to install some extra -devel packages and tools. Your new rpm should end up /usr/src/packages/RPMS I believe.
What do you mean by <specfile>? Is that something I'm supposed to create? Please understand, I have never built an rpm from source.
man rpmbuild -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* James Knott
[05-04-16 14:34]: On 05/04/2016 01:51 PM, Per Jessen wrote:
James Knott wrote:
On 05/04/2016 10:06 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
As an alternative, you could build the new dhcpcd from rpm source on your 13.1 system. What's the procedure for doing that? I've already tried an rpm that was supposedly built for 13.1 and it killed dhcp completely. You get hold of the source rpm, install it, then "rpmbuild -bb <specfile>. You may need to install some extra -devel packages and tools. Your new rpm should end up /usr/src/packages/RPMS I believe.
What do you mean by <specfile>? Is that something I'm supposed to create? Please understand, I have never built an rpm from source.
man rpmbuild
Yes, that is a good suggestion - James, when you install the source rpm, it ends up in /usr/src/packages/<various> - one is SPECS/ which will have the spec-file, "something.spec". The process is fully automated, but you may need to play with a little to get comfortable. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (10.1°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Per Jessen
James Knott wrote:
On 05/04/2016 10:06 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
As an alternative, you could build the new dhcpcd from rpm source on your 13.1 system.
What's the procedure for doing that? I've already tried an rpm that was supposedly built for 13.1 and it killed dhcp completely.
You get hold of the source rpm, install it, then "rpmbuild -bb <specfile>. You may need to install some extra -devel packages and tools. Your new rpm should end up /usr/src/packages/RPMS I believe.
Possibly easier to leverage OBS. It handles all the build requirements transparently. Log into: http://build.opensuse.org Find the dhcpcd package you want to build. (maybe the one from 13.2 - https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/openSUSE:13.2/dhcpcd) click "branch package" under the description click on newly created "project" in the breadcrumb line (eg. home:gregfreemyer:branches:openSUSE:13.2:Update) click on "repositories" near the top of "project" page Add "openSUSE 13.1". Return to the "package" page overview eg. https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:gregfreemyer:branches:openSUSE:... click on "repositories" near the top of "package" page Turn on publishing for 13.1 Return to the "package" page overview and wait for the package to build. Click on "download package" and follow instructions. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/04/2016 06:45 PM, Greg Freemyer wrote:
(maybe the one from 13.2 - https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/openSUSE:13.2/dhcpcd)
It has to be a later one that supports dhcpv6-pd and I don't think the dhcpcd from 13.2 does. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
James Knott wrote:
On 05/04/2016 06:45 PM, Greg Freemyer wrote:
(maybe the one from 13.2 - https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/openSUSE:13.2/dhcpcd)
It has to be a later one that supports dhcpv6-pd and I don't think the dhcpcd from 13.2 does.
Finding the source took longer than building it: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/bastianfriedrich/openSUSE_Le... (I did not find any "official" source for a Leap421 version). download with wget install: rpm --install dhcpcd-6.10.1-3.1.src.rpm This creates ~/rpmbuild/{SPECS,SOURCES} and installs the tarball and the spec file. Build: rpmbuild --bb rpmbuild/SPECS/dhcpcd.spec Total time: 35s on a meagre 2.8GHz single CPU. rpm -qpi rpmbuild/RPMS/i586/dhcpcd-6.10.1-3.1.i586.rpm Name : dhcpcd Version : 6.10.1 Release : 3.1 Architecture: i586 Install Date: (not installed) Group : Productivity/Networking/Boot/Clients Size : 988101 License : GPL-2.0+ Signature : (none) Source RPM : dhcpcd-6.10.1-3.1.src.rpm Build Date : Thu 05 May 2016 09:39:04 CEST Build Host : office20.local.net Relocations : (not relocatable) URL : http://roy.marples.name/projects/dhcpcd/ Summary : A DHCP Client Daemon Description : dhcpcd gets an IP address and other information from a corresponding DHCP server, configures the network interface automatically, and tries to renew the lease time depending on the command line option. Beginning with version 6, it is among the first dhcp clients to support DHCPv6 quite well. Distribution: (none) If you want, you can get it here: http://files.jessen.ch/dhcpcd-6.10.1-3.1.i586.rpm -- Per Jessen, Zürich (8.9°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Per Jessen wrote:
If you want, you can get it here: http://files.jessen.ch/dhcpcd-6.10.1-3.1.i586.rpm
I have to quickly add - other than installing it, I have _not_ tested it. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (10.5°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 04/05/2016 19:51, Per Jessen wrote:
James Knott wrote:
On 05/04/2016 10:06 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
As an alternative, you could build the new dhcpcd from rpm source on your 13.1 system.
What's the procedure for doing that? I've already tried an rpm that was supposedly built for 13.1 and it killed dhcp completely.
You get hold of the source rpm, install it, then "rpmbuild -bb <specfile>. You may need to install some extra -devel packages and tools. Your new rpm should end up /usr/src/packages/RPMS I believe.
Once you have Leap installed, Enable the source repository or find the package you want in obs and enable that repo. zypper si <source package> , this will pull in the build dependencies. As root, cd /usr/src/packages. rpmbuild -bb SPECS/packagename.spec If this succeeds, zypper ar /usr/src/packages/RPMS rpms createrepo RPMS && zypper ref rpms zypper in <rpm package name> Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/03/2016 09:41 PM, James Knott wrote:
I'm planning on upgrading a computer from openSUSE 13.1 to Leap. Will there be any issues with this? Or should I start from fresh install?
Given the price of disks, I'd be tempted to put a second drive in the PC, install on that, and have a dual boot for a short while. It also lets you mount your old /home or perhaps /opt or /usr/local from the 13.1 drive. Of course there are constraints; maybe its a laptop and doesn't have second drive capability. Maybe the second drive slot is occupied, for example by a RAID or mirror device. Options the other way include doing the install on a second drive that is a SSD. Smaller SSDs are very reasonable in price. Cost vs risk vs effort ... -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/04/2016 10:26 AM, Anton Aylward wrote:
Given the price of disks, I'd be tempted to put a second drive in the PC, install on that, and have a dual boot for a short while. It also lets you mount your old /home or perhaps /opt or /usr/local from the 13.1 drive.
I have an old 32 bit system that still has my firewall/router on it. Failing that, I also have a Linksys router that I can drop in place to restore connectivity, albeit IPv4 only, so I won't be dead in the water. If worst comes to worst, I suppose I could use the pathetic router/firewall that came with the Hitron cable modem. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, May 3 09:41:02 PM James Knott wrote:
I'm planning on upgrading a computer from openSUSE 13.1 to Leap. Will there be any issues with this? Or should I start from fresh install?
tnx jk
I've done upgrades leapfrogging a release entirely and also doing the two upgrades together one following the other. From the repos and from the DVD. All have worked. However, while some releases have more or less changes/issues than others, as a general rule I've found it safer and usually much easier to do the two upgrades as two separate steps because of better visibility into the changes. A single 2-release upgrade can get into problems difficult to back out of. Also fwiw IME the DVD is better because it checks more and provides more granular control of the upgrade process. --dg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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