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oszko＠chem.u-szeged.hu

3 Apr 2020 3 Apr '20

16:25

Hi all, Yesterday I ran again into a problem which I cannot solve by myself. I updated my TW (with KDE). The update included a kernel update and many more. After rebooting the graphical environment did not start, only thr command line. I have network access, and I also see all things on this laptop. Interestingly, I can play the sound of a movie but cannot play music. Systemctl says I am at graphical target. I tried to boot with the kernel that was replaced with this update and worked fine, but the same happenned: no greaphical environment. What can I do to avoid reinstall and start KDE (or even iceweasel) again. Any help is welcome, Thanks, Albert ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

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Simon Becherer

3 Apr 3 Apr

16:33

Am 03.04.20 um 18:25 schrieb oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu:

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Hi all,

Yesterday I ran again into a problem which I cannot solve by myself. I updated my TW (with KDE). The update included a kernel update and many more. After rebooting the graphical environment did not start, only thr command line. I have network access, and I also see all things on this laptop. Interestingly, I can play the sound of a movie but cannot play music. Systemctl says I am at graphical target. I tried to boot with the kernel that was replaced with this update and worked fine, but the same happenned: no greaphical environment.

What can I do to avoid reinstall and start KDE (or even iceweasel) again.

Any help is welcome,

if its an older machine where you jumped over some updates, it sounds for me like a know problem not resolving .rpmnew config-files check for all .rpmnew and rpmsave files with the command: rpmconfigcheck especially this one: /etc/nsswitch.conf merge the files, or remove the old one and use the new one. (make backup of the rpm file before) try restart simoN -- www.becherer.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Rodney Baker

23:30

On Saturday, 4 April 2020 3:03:28 ACDT Simon Becherer wrote:

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Am 03.04.20 um 18:25 schrieb oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu:

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Hi all,

Yesterday I ran again into a problem which I cannot solve by myself. I updated my TW (with KDE). The update included a kernel update and many more. After rebooting the graphical environment did not start, only thr command line. I have network access, and I also see all things on this laptop. Interestingly, I can play the sound of a movie but cannot play music. Systemctl says I am at graphical target. I tried to boot with the kernel that was replaced with this update and worked fine, but the same happenned: no greaphical environment.

What can I do to avoid reinstall and start KDE (or even iceweasel) again.

Any help is welcome,

if its an older machine where you jumped over some updates, it sounds for me like a know problem not resolving .rpmnew config-files

check for all .rpmnew and rpmsave files with the command: rpmconfigcheck

especially this one: /etc/nsswitch.conf

merge the files, or remove the old one and use the new one. (make backup of the rpm file before)

try restart

simoN

What is the recommended way to merge the config files? Manually? Is there a tool or script to do so (perhaps with user prompts to verify changes)? -- ============================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au CCNA #CSCO12880208 ============================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan

23:36

* Rodney Baker [04-03-20 19:33]: [...]

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What is the recommended way to merge the config files? Manually? Is there a tool or script to do so (perhaps with user prompts to verify changes)?

don't know about recommended. I run rpmconfigcheck and compare the resulting files using tkdiff or meld and update to what I believe I need. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

oszko＠chem.u-szeged.hu

4 Apr 4 Apr

09:05

Idézet (Simon Becherer ):

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Am 03.04.20 um 18:25 schrieb oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu:

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Hi all,

Yesterday I ran again into a problem which I cannot solve by myself. I updated my TW (with KDE). The update included a kernel update and many more. After rebooting the graphical environment did not start, only thr command line. I have network access, and I also see all things on this laptop. Interestingly, I can play the sound of a movie but cannot play music. Systemctl says I am at graphical target. I tried to boot with the kernel that was replaced with this update and worked fine, but the same happenned: no greaphical environment.

What can I do to avoid reinstall and start KDE (or even iceweasel) again.

Any help is welcome,

if its an older machine where you jumped over some updates, it sounds for me like a know problem not resolving .rpmnew config-files

check for all .rpmnew and rpmsave files with the command: rpmconfigcheck

especially this one: /etc/nsswitch.conf

merge the files, or remove the old one and use the new one. (make backup of the rpm file before)

try restart

simoN

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I ran rpmconfigcheck and one of the items is /etc/nsswitch.conf.rpmnew. I also do not know how to proceeed? Albert ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

10:45

On 04/04/2020 11.05, oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu wrote:

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Idézet (Simon Becherer <>):

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Am 03.04.20 um 18:25 schrieb oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu:

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Hi all,

Yesterday I ran again into a problem which I cannot solve by myself. I updated my TW (with KDE). The update included a kernel update and many more. After rebooting the graphical environment did not start, only thr command line. I have network access, and I also see all things on this laptop. Interestingly, I can play the sound of a movie but cannot play music. Systemctl says I am at graphical target. I tried to boot with the kernel that was replaced with this update and worked fine, but the same happenned: no greaphical environment.

What can I do to avoid reinstall and start KDE (or even iceweasel) again.

Any help is welcome,

if its an older machine where you jumped over some updates, it sounds for me like a know problem not resolving .rpmnew config-files

check for all .rpmnew and rpmsave files with the command: rpmconfigcheck

especially this one: /etc/nsswitch.conf

merge the files, or remove the old one and use the new one. (make backup of the rpm file before)

try restart

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I ran rpmconfigcheck and one of the items is /etc/nsswitch.conf.rpmnew. I also do not know how to proceeed?

Basically, you compare the active file (/etc/nsswitch.conf) with the other file (/etc/nsswitch.conf.rpmnew), and you decide what new options to activate or ignore. Repeat for every file, after every zypper dup. If you have another machine, you can in that machine "ssh -X ..." to this machine, then run: meld /etc/nsswitch.conf /etc/nsswitch.conf.rpmnew to do the edit and comparison (you may need to install meld first). And yes, you are the admin, it is you who has to decide what to do with those config options. Sorry, it is one of the reasons I do not "use" tumbleweed. Depending on the case, you have to accept the new options, refuse them all, accept some refuse some, edit some, whatever. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)

Patrick Shanahan

11:06

* Carlos E. R. [04-04-20 06:49]: [...]

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Basically, you compare the active file (/etc/nsswitch.conf) with the other file (/etc/nsswitch.conf.rpmnew), and you decide what new options to activate or ignore. Repeat for every file, after every zypper dup.

If you have another machine, you can in that machine "ssh -X ..." to this machine, then run:

meld /etc/nsswitch.conf /etc/nsswitch.conf.rpmnew

to do the edit and comparison (you may need to install meld first).

And yes, you are the admin, it is you who has to decide what to do with those config options. Sorry, it is one of the reasons I do not "use" tumbleweed. Depending on the case, you have to accept the new options, refuse them all, accept some refuse some, edit some, whatever.

such is live ... -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Simon Becherer

5 Apr 5 Apr

12:09

Hi albert, Am 04.04.20 um 11:05 schrieb oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu:

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I ran rpmconfigcheck and one of the items is /etc/nsswitch.conf.rpmnew. I also do not know how to proceeed?

a) i use "midnight commander" to compare, (or edit, ore copy, or move), but if you have never used mc, or norton commander, or similar, "maybe" the other tools are better (meld tkdiff) (i do not know them) at least you need a texteditor to be able to read and modify text files. c) in this case: "/etc/nsswitch.conf.rpmnew" i think easiest way is to replace the old file with the rpmnew file. do (as root): cp /etc/nsswitch.conf /etc/nsswitch.conf.thisonewasworkingbefore rm /etc/nsswitch.conf cp /etc/nsswitch.conf.rpmnew /etc/nsswitch.conf this in most cases solves some tw-update problems. (you have to reboot) if you still not get graphical environment, this was not your (only) problem. but at least you should have now a "for standard tw" working nsswitch.conf file. if you prefer to use your old file, you have to insert at least (with a editor) all the "usrfiles" entry behind the old entry's inside your old file (where they now are in the rpmnew file). -> this is minimum you have to do!! d) this thing with rpmconfigcheck is not so dramatic as carlos say ;-)) i have ignored it for a long time, but of course that's not a good idea, so i changed my behavior. and if you do it regular, you will not have to much to do at once. simoN -- www.becherer.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

12:54

On 05/04/2020 14.09, Simon Becherer wrote:

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Hi albert,

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d) this thing with rpmconfigcheck is not so dramatic as carlos say ;-)) i have ignored it for a long time, but of course that's not a good idea, so i changed my behavior. and if you do it regular, you will not have to much to do at once.

I myself ignore it often ;-) Then something happens and I remember. It is more important perhaps when upgrading the stable release, specially if it is a major upgrade (leap 42.* to 15.*). If one doesn't do it, new features may not be activated. When looking with "meld", one often sees that a simple "space" is the single difference between the two versions. Or some spell corrections in the comments. With meld, it is just a mouse click to apply the change, so that the next update it will not trigger. Some "magic" is missing with those files ;-) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)

Anton Aylward

13:29

On 05/04/2020 08:09, Simon Becherer wrote:

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ems is /etc/nsswitch.conf.rpmnew. I also do not know how to proceeed? a) i use "midnight commander" to compare, (or edit, ore copy, or move), but if you have never used mc, or norton commander, or similar, "maybe" the other tools are better (meld tkdiff) (i do not know them) at least you need a texteditor to be able to read and modify text files.

You first need to determine if there are changes, what they are and what their significance is. I think that a split screen approach is unreliable, it is too easy for the yes to overlook something. I use the 'diff' program, firstly to see any and all changes. line by line, byte by byte comparison. Perhaps you want to ignore blanks space :-) It catches what the eye might miss. There is an option to display the changes side by side, which i find useful, see the changes in context. Of course if the changes are dramatic, of you've heavily edited your original config file so there are lots of conflicts with an update based on that original, then this may seem overwhelming. But then so will the dual pane editor. -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Simon Becherer

13:46

Am 05.04.20 um 15:29 schrieb Anton Aylward:

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I think that a split screen approach is unreliable, it is too easy for the yes to overlook something.

mc did a fine diff f9 / commands / compare-files or [ctrl +x+d] (hold ctrl and press x and then d) before you have of course in both pannels be your "cursor-line" at the files you like to compare f5 to merge (take care, always fom right to left panel, always the first block at screen - sometimes not good) f4 edit or shift f4 edit the other panel, [strg +f] copy marked text into the clipboard and [shift f5] to bring things back from clipboard simoN -- www.becherer.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Anton Aylward

4 Apr 4 Apr

00:11

On 03/04/2020 12:25, oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu wrote:

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What can I do to avoid reinstall and start KDE (or even iceweasel) again.

What I've done when graphical mode fails is start with a command line then as a regular user run 'startx'. OK, so that too may fail, but now you've got a set of error messages and stuff in /var /log to work with :-) -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

oszko＠chem.u-szeged.hu

09:19

Yoa are right, startx failed. It says it cannot connect to X server. Then, why systemctl says I am at graphical.target. Albert Idézet (Anton Aylward ):

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On 03/04/2020 12:25, oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu wrote:

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What can I do to avoid reinstall and start KDE (or even iceweasel) again.

What I've done when graphical mode fails is start with a command line then as a regular user run 'startx'.

OK, so that too may fail, but now you've got a set of error messages and stuff in /var /log to work with :-)

-- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon?

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Rodney Baker

5 Apr 5 Apr

08:47

On Saturday, 4 April 2020 19:49:04 ACST oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu wrote:

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Yoa are right, startx failed. It says it cannot connect to X server. Then, why systemctl says I am at graphical.target.

Albert

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oszko＠chem.u-szeged.hu

09:01

Idézet (Rodney Baker ):

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On Saturday, 4 April 2020 19:49:04 ACST oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu wrote:

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Yoa are right, startx failed. It says it cannot connect to X server. Then, why systemctl says I am at graphical.target.

Albert

What video card/drivers are you running?

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Well, unfortunately this is an ASUS laptop with Optimus card (Intel+ NVidia)). Both Nouveau and Xf86-video-intel drivers are installed. But which one is used, I do not know. I thought I would delete the nouveau drivers. In the meantime there was an update yesterday evenening with a new kernel. Hoped it would solve the things, but it did not . Albert ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Felix Miata

09:33

oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu composed on 2020-04-05 11:01 (UTC+0200):

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Well, unfortunately this is an ASUS laptop with Optimus card (Intel+ NVidia)). Both Nouveau and Xf86-video-intel drivers are installed. But which one is used, I do not know. I thought I would delete the nouveau drivers.

Very likely you need neither. The default driver, provided by the X server rpm, is designed for AMD, Intel and NVidia GPUs. What is the output from?: inxi -Gxx If command not found: sudo zypper in inxi Do you have bumblebee installed? Suse-prime? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

oszko＠chem.u-szeged.hu

11:57

Idézet (Felix Miata ):

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oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu composed on 2020-04-05 11:01 (UTC+0200):

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Well, unfortunately this is an ASUS laptop with Optimus card (Intel+ NVidia)). Both Nouveau and Xf86-video-intel drivers are installed. But which one is used, I do not know. I thought I would delete the nouveau drivers.

Very likely you need neither. The default driver, provided by the X server rpm, is designed for AMD, Intel and NVidia GPUs.

What is the output from?:

inxi -Gxx

If command not found:

sudo zypper in inxi

Do you have bumblebee installed? Suse-prime? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science.

Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

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I copy here the output of the command: Device-1 Intel Skylake GT2 [HD Graphics 520] vendor: AsusTek driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 Device-2: NVIIDIA GM 107M [GeForce GTX 950M] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: nouveau v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.0 Displays server: X.org 1.20.7 driver: intel, nouveau unloaded fbdev, modesetting, vesa alternate : nv, nvidia tty 240x67 Message: Unable to show advanced data. Required tool glxinfo missing ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

oszko＠chem.u-szeged.hu

11:58

Idézet (Felix Miata ):

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oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu composed on 2020-04-05 11:01 (UTC+0200):

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Well, unfortunately this is an ASUS laptop with Optimus card (Intel+ NVidia)). Both Nouveau and Xf86-video-intel drivers are installed. But which one is used, I do not know. I thought I would delete the nouveau drivers.

Very likely you need neither. The default driver, provided by the X server rpm, is designed for AMD, Intel and NVidia GPUs.

What is the output from?:

inxi -Gxx

If command not found:

sudo zypper in inxi

Do you have bumblebee installed? Suse-prime? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science.

Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

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Felix Miata

13:45

oszko@ composed on 2020-04-05 13:58 (UTC+0200):

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Well, unfortunately this is an ASUS laptop with Optimus card (Intel+ NVidia)).

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Do you have bumblebee installed? Suse-prime?

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neither bumblebee, nor suse prime are installed

When you have Optimus, you need one or the other. https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_Bumblebee https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_SUSE_Prime -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

oszko＠chem.u-szeged.hu

15:15

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oszko@ composed on 2020-04-05 13:58 (UTC+0200):

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oszko@ composed on 2020-04-05 11:01 (UTC+0200):

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Well, unfortunately this is an ASUS laptop with Optimus card (Intel+ NVidia)).

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Do you have bumblebee installed? Suse-prime?

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neither bumblebee, nor suse prime are installed

When you have Optimus, you need one or the other. https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_Bumblebee https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_SUSE_Prime -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science.

Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

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Installed suse-prime and read the SDB page you mentioned. There is a section to decide whether one has wayland or x11. The command is loginctl and the output conatins While on the page the TTy column is empty, I have tty1 in it. Loginctl show-session 1 | grep type returns tty, no x11 or wayland. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan

15:51

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Well, unfortunately this is an ASUS laptop with Optimus card (Intel+ NVidia)).

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Do you have bumblebee installed? Suse-prime?

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neither bumblebee, nor suse prime are installed

When you have Optimus, you need one or the other. https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_Bumblebee https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_SUSE_Prime -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science.

Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

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Installed suse-prime and read the SDB page you mentioned. There is a section to decide whether one has wayland or x11. The command is loginctl and the output conatins While on the page the TTy column is empty, I have tty1 in it. Loginctl show-session 1 | grep type returns tty, no x11 or wayland.

surely *some* trimming would be appropriate. you fail to discover what is available, loginctl --help loginctl SESSION UID USER SEAT TTY 1 0 root seat0 tty1 2 1000 paka seat0 tty5 4 1000 paka seat0 c1 1000 paka c2 1000 paka c3 1000 paka c4 1000 paka c5 1000 paka c6 1000 paka c7 1000 paka c8 1000 paka c9 1000 paka 12 sessions listed. loginctl show-session 4 Id=4 User=1000 Name=paka Timestamp=Sun 2020-04-05 11:26:20 EDT TimestampMonotonic=3314095179 VTNr=7 Seat=seat0 Display=:0 Remote=no Service=sddm Desktop=KDE Scope=session-4.scope Leader=8316 Audit=4 Type=x11 Class=user Active=yes State=active IdleHint=no IdleSinceHint=0 IdleSinceHintMonotonic=0 LockedHint=no note: "Type=x11" -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

oszko＠chem.u-szeged.hu

16:00

New subject: [opensuse] Lost X after update [Caution: Message contains Suspicious URL content]

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oszko@ composed on 2020-04-05 13:58 (UTC+0200):

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oszko@ composed on 2020-04-05 11:01 (UTC+0200):

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Well, unfortunately this is an ASUS laptop with Optimus card (Intel+ NVidia)).

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Do you have bumblebee installed? Suse-prime?

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neither bumblebee, nor suse prime are installed

When you have Optimus, you need one or the other. https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_Bumblebee https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_SUSE_Prime -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science.

Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Installed suse-prime and read the SDB page you mentioned. There is a section to decide whether one has wayland or x11. The command is loginctl and the output conatins While on the page the TTy column is empty, I have tty1 in it. Loginctl show-session 1 | grep type returns tty, no x11 or wayland.

surely *some* trimming would be appropriate.

you fail to discover what is available, loginctl --help

loginctl SESSION UID USER SEAT TTY 1 0 root seat0 tty1 2 1000 paka seat0 tty5 4 1000 paka seat0 c1 1000 paka c2 1000 paka c3 1000 paka c4 1000 paka c5 1000 paka c6 1000 paka c7 1000 paka c8 1000 paka c9 1000 paka

12 sessions listed.

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Anton Aylward

13:06

On 05/04/2020 05:01, oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu wrote:

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Both Nouveau and Xf86-video-intel drivers are installed. But which one is used, I do not know. I thought I would delete the nouveau drivers. In the meantime there was an update yesterday evenening with a new kernel. Hoped it would solve the things, but it did not .

CAREFUL! The drivers are dynamic kernel modules and can be loaded and unloaded individually without being deleted from the system. See man modprobe to start with. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modprobe https://linux.101hacks.com/unix/modprobe/ You can check what's actually loaded (and by implication, dependencies) with man lsmod I'd be very suspicious if BOTH the Nouveau and the Xf86-video-intel drivers are loaded. How will the system determine which to use? I'd suggest 'lsmod' to see it they both are, then 'modprobe -r' to remove one or other and try starting X again. -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

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15:25

Idézet (Anton Aylward ):

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On 05/04/2020 05:01, oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu wrote:

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Both Nouveau and Xf86-video-intel drivers are installed. But which one is used, I do not know. I thought I would delete the nouveau drivers. In the meantime there was an update yesterday evenening with a new kernel. Hoped it would solve the things, but it did not .

CAREFUL!

The drivers are dynamic kernel modules and can be loaded and unloaded individually without being deleted from the system.

See man modprobe to start with. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modprobe https://linux.101hacks.com/unix/modprobe/

You can check what's actually loaded (and by implication, dependencies) with man lsmod

I'd be very suspicious if BOTH the Nouveau and the Xf86-video-intel drivers are loaded. How will the system determine which to use? I'd suggest 'lsmod' to see it they both are, then 'modprobe -r' to remove one or other and try starting X again.

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In the video line there were 3 items asus wmi, i915 and nouveau. I removed nouveau, still no X. I I noticed something: upon booting the command line login appears for a moment then the underline simbol in the upper left corner of the screen. Just when X is initialized. The I get the back CLI login. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Anton Aylward

17:02

On 05/04/2020 11:25, oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu wrote:

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In the video line there were 3 items asus wmi, i915 and nouveau. I removed nouveau, still no X. I I noticed something: upon booting the command line login appears for a moment then the underline simbol in the upper left corner of the screen. Just when X is initialized. The I get the back CLI login.

Two things to investigate. As the modprobe.d man page talks about, the /etc/modprobe.d/ directory had the includes and excludes listed. A quick # grep -w install /etc/modprobe.d/* is useful The second is, as always, the log files. The file /var/log/Xorg.0.log will tell you why the X server failed to start. Heck, the /var/log/boot.msg might also be interesting! -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

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17:08

Idézet (Anton Aylward ):

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On 05/04/2020 11:25, oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu wrote:

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In the video line there were 3 items asus wmi, i915 and nouveau. I removed nouveau, still no X. I I noticed something: upon booting the command line login appears for a moment then the underline simbol in the upper left corner of the screen. Just when X is initialized. The I get the back CLI login.

Two things to investigate. As the modprobe.d man page talks about, the /etc/modprobe.d/ directory had the includes and excludes listed.

A quick # grep -w install /etc/modprobe.d/* is useful

The second is, as always, the log files. The file /var/log/Xorg.0.log will tell you why the X server failed to start. Heck, the /var/log/boot.msg might also be interesting!

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First of all, thank you all for your help. Hopefully, I will learn from your suggestions. But I desperately applied brute force: with yast i forced to reinstall all Xorg related packages, rebooted and with a great luck, I have my graphical interface back. Unfortunately, I still do not know whatt would be an expert solution to this problem. Albert ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

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