* Peter McD [04-28-22 08:58]:

Am 28.04.22 um 14:13 schrieb cagsm:

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Users,

upgrading online some 15.3 to 15.4 just today (beta? rc?) via zypper and golbal parameter --releasever=15.4 went fine over here with a rather simple test system.

Too bad 15.4 is very conservative and old in various software versions and so on. Is a tumbleweed more suited when not wanting to risk stability and not opting in for data loss?

It depends.

Tumbleweed is nice if you don't mind lots of updates per week. I have it as fall-back on my my computer with XFCE as GUI.

But I prefer solid Leap 15.3 with KDE-Plasma plus additional repositories for the newest versions of some programs for my day-to-day work.

and I utilize Tumbleweed for my main workstation and developing photography and have with very minor problems since Greg Kroah-Hartman introduced Evergreen, Tumbleweed's predecessor, more than 10 years ago. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc

* Per Jessen [04-28-22 14:15]:

Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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and I utilize Tumbleweed for my main workstation and developing photography and have with very minor problems since Greg Kroah-Hartman introduced Evergreen, Tumbleweed's predecessor, more than 10 years ago.

I believe it was Wolfgang Rosenauer who was the driving force behind Evergreen.

not my recall, but it was >10 year ago and ... -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc

Peter McD wrote:

Am 28.04.22 um 14:13 schrieb cagsm:

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Users,

upgrading online some 15.3 to 15.4 just today (beta? rc?) via zypper and golbal parameter --releasever=15.4 went fine over here with a rather simple test system.

Too bad 15.4 is very conservative and old in various software versions and so on. Is a tumbleweed more suited when not wanting to risk stability and not opting in for data loss?

It depends.

Tumbleweed is nice if you don't mind lots of updates per week. I have it as fall-back on my my computer with XFCE as GUI.

I run Tumbleweed only on some minor non-critical systems. Running it in production would mean an immense testing effort that I have no time for.

But I prefer solid Leap 15.3 with KDE-Plasma plus additional repositories for the newest versions of some programs for my day-to-day work.

Yes, that it also my take - I need to put in 8-10 hours a day, I have to have a workstation and an office environment I can depend on. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (15.5°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland.

* Carlos E. R. [04-28-22 14:02]:

On 2022-04-28 14:13, cagsm wrote:

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Users,

upgrading online some 15.3 to 15.4 just today (beta? rc?) via zypper and golbal parameter --releasever=15.4 went fine over here with a rather simple test system.

Too bad 15.4 is very conservative and old in various software versions and so on. Is a tumbleweed more suited when not wanting to risk stability and not opting in for data loss?

Tumbleweed is where all new features go. And all new problems come with the package too, you are the advance battalion. Then you tell us back here how it went ;-)

it went fine and has for 10 years or so. you spread dis-information and fear and doubt. one must use it to have experience, and you constantly remind us that you will not. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc

* Per Jessen [04-28-22 15:20]:

Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Carlos E. R. [04-28-22 14:02]:

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On 2022-04-28 14:13, cagsm wrote:

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Users,

upgrading online some 15.3 to 15.4 just today (beta? rc?) via zypper and golbal parameter --releasever=15.4 went fine over here with a rather simple test system.

Too bad 15.4 is very conservative and old in various software versions and so on. Is a tumbleweed more suited when not wanting to risk stability and not opting in for data loss?

Tumbleweed is where all new features go. And all new problems come with the package too, you are the advance battalion. Then you tell us back here how it went ;-)

it went fine and has for 10 years or so. you spread dis-information and fear and doubt.

Let's be fair - a good friend of mine also swears by Tumbleweed, but when asked if he would run it on his smartphone, he declines.

Tumbleweed does very well in most situations, but sometimes you have to be willing to tinker.

yes, one must be willing to tinker to run any system :) -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc

* Carlos E. R. [04-28-22 16:09]:

On 2022-04-28 21:06, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Carlos E. R. [04-28-22 14:02]:

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On 2022-04-28 14:13, cagsm wrote:

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Users,

upgrading online some 15.3 to 15.4 just today (beta? rc?) via zypper and golbal parameter --releasever=15.4 went fine over here with a rather simple test system.

Too bad 15.4 is very conservative and old in various software versions and so on. Is a tumbleweed more suited when not wanting to risk stability and not opting in for data loss?

Tumbleweed is where all new features go. And all new problems come with the package too, you are the advance battalion. Then you tell us back here how it went ;-)

it went fine and has for 10 years or so. you spread dis-information and fear and doubt. one must use it to have experience, and you constantly remind us that you will not.

Actually, I have at least one TW install, and I talk from experience.

odd that a system that you do not use causes you so much trouble. I have five local systems with tw, but certainly not the experience that you have. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc