Hi all, I have a Yamaha PCI 128 XG. It sounds wonderful. When it's working. I tried using the demo OSS on the 6.1 CDs, and it set itself up with absolutely no trouble at all. No hand editing, nothing. I made a stupid mistake, though - I installed it on 25/09/99, and so I could only play with it for 6 days before the trial ran out at the end of the month. I had 6 days of sheer bliss. I now have 2 options: use OSS/Free, use ALSA, or buy something. I have had a look at www.linux.org.uk/OSS/ which is, as far as I know, the authoritative site on OSS/Free. It says that Yamaha PCI sound cards are unsupported because the specs haven't been released. I presume this means that I'm out of luck on the OSS/Free front, unless anyone knows a more up to date site. I had a look at the ALSA project, and found that they don't support the card either. That leaves me with the commercial OSS that works and sounds wonderful, but costs. After all that preamble, here's the question. I know that SuSE 6.x comes with a license for standard OSS, but standard OSS doesn't cover the PCI XG, it is supported in a seperate addon module. Which costs more. Does the SuSE 6.2 boxed set contain a licensed copy of OSS *INCLUDING* the separate add-on modules? If not, will 6.3 have OSS with modules? Or am I doomed to paying 4Front directly? Well, I certainly took a long time to ask a simple question! Sorry about that ;-) Thanks in advance Chris -- __ _ -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Chris Reeves /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ICQ# 22219005 _\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Helllo, Chris! Here`s a workaround for your problem: create a file named "aud" with the following contents: ---8<--- date -s '1 year ago' soundon date -s '1 year' --->8--- And you can use OSS/"Free" for 1 year more... If you are a fan of media/sound/music-composing - run Windows98 instead - it has no any troubles with media. Thanks, Egor. -----Original Message----- From: root@bute.st-andrews.ac.uk [mailto:root@bute.st-andrews.ac.uk]On Behalf Of Chris Reeves Sent: Dienstag, 26. Oktober 1999 22:16 To: SuSE Mailing List; egm@csie.nsys.by Subject: [SLE] Yamaha PCI 128 XG Hi all, I have a Yamaha PCI 128 XG. It sounds wonderful. When it's working. I tried using the demo OSS on the 6.1 CDs, and it set itself up with absolutely no trouble at all. No hand editing, nothing. I made a stupid mistake, though - I installed it on 25/09/99, and so I could only play with it for 6 days before the trial ran out at the end of the month. I had 6 days of sheer bliss. I now have 2 options: use OSS/Free, use ALSA, or buy something. I have had a look at www.linux.org.uk/OSS/ which is, as far as I know, the authoritative site on OSS/Free. It says that Yamaha PCI sound cards are unsupported because the specs haven't been released. I presume this means that I'm out of luck on the OSS/Free front, unless anyone knows a more up to date site. I had a look at the ALSA project, and found that they don't support the card either. That leaves me with the commercial OSS that works and sounds wonderful, but costs. After all that preamble, here's the question. I know that SuSE 6.x comes with a license for standard OSS, but standard OSS doesn't cover the PCI XG, it is supported in a seperate addon module. Which costs more. Does the SuSE 6.2 boxed set contain a licensed copy of OSS *INCLUDING* the separate add-on modules? If not, will 6.3 have OSS with modules? Or am I doomed to paying 4Front directly? Well, I certainly took a long time to ask a simple question! Sorry about that ;-) Thanks in advance Chris -- __ _ -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Chris Reeves /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ICQ# 22219005 _\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Hi Egor, Oops! Tried that and X didn't like it. Crashed and died. I think next time I'll do that on startup (which is what you probably meant me to do). I'd much prefer it, though, if there was some other way (like SuSE putting OSS *with* modules on the CD ;-)). But if the worst comes to the worst... Thanks, Chris Egor Molodov wrote:
Helllo, Chris!
Here`s a workaround for your problem: create a file named "aud" with the following contents: ---8<--- date -s '1 year ago' soundon date -s '1 year' --->8---
And you can use OSS/"Free" for 1 year more...
If you are a fan of media/sound/music-composing - run Windows98 instead - it has no any troubles with media.
Thanks, Egor.
-----Original Message----- From: root@bute.st-andrews.ac.uk [mailto:root@bute.st-andrews.ac.uk]On Behalf Of Chris Reeves Sent: Dienstag, 26. Oktober 1999 22:16 To: SuSE Mailing List; egm@csie.nsys.by Subject: [SLE] Yamaha PCI 128 XG
Hi all,
I have a Yamaha PCI 128 XG. It sounds wonderful. When it's working. I tried using the demo OSS on the 6.1 CDs, and it set itself up with absolutely no trouble at all. No hand editing, nothing. I made a stupid mistake, though - I installed it on 25/09/99, and so I could only play with it for 6 days before the trial ran out at the end of the month. I had 6 days of sheer bliss.
I now have 2 options: use OSS/Free, use ALSA, or buy something.
I have had a look at www.linux.org.uk/OSS/ which is, as far as I know, the authoritative site on OSS/Free. It says that Yamaha PCI sound cards are unsupported because the specs haven't been released. I presume this means that I'm out of luck on the OSS/Free front, unless anyone knows a more up to date site.
I had a look at the ALSA project, and found that they don't support the card either.
That leaves me with the commercial OSS that works and sounds wonderful, but costs. After all that preamble, here's the question. I know that SuSE 6.x comes with a license for standard OSS, but standard OSS doesn't cover the PCI XG, it is supported in a seperate addon module. Which costs more. Does the SuSE 6.2 boxed set contain a licensed copy of OSS *INCLUDING* the separate add-on modules? If not, will 6.3 have OSS with modules? Or am I doomed to paying 4Front directly?
Well, I certainly took a long time to ask a simple question! Sorry about that ;-)
-- __ _ -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Chris Reeves /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ICQ# 22219005 _\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
I'm running 6.2,
If I hilight (left button and drag) a URL in an email in xfmail, then try to
paste it into the netscapes "open" dialogue (Alt-O) then xfmail crashes :-(
Anyone else seen this ?
Peter Onion.
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E-Mail: Peter Onion
On 27-Oct-99 Peter Onion wrote:
I'm running 6.2,
If I hilight (left button and drag) a URL in an email in xfmail, then try to paste it into the netscapes "open" dialogue (Alt-O) then xfmail crashes :-(
Anyone else seen this ?
Peter Onion.
I recall there were specific versions of xfmail with unstable cut and paste function - sorry I don't remember which versions. I have been using a xfmail version 1.2 for a couple of years with very good success and no problems at all with the cut and paste. Maybe you should give a different version a try. ---------- Gary -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Peter, On 27-Oct-99 Peter Onion wrote:
I'm running 6.2,
If I hilight (left button and drag) a URL in an email in xfmail, then try to paste it into the netscapes "open" dialogue (Alt-O) then xfmail crashes :-(
Anyone else seen this ?
YES! This exact problem has been bugging me too. I've been running SuSE 5.3 and 6.0 before, always using the xfmail 1.3 package delivered with SuSE. Never had this problem until I recently upgraded to SuSE 6.2. Please tell me if you find a way to fix this. /Fredrik [fredrik@warg.nu] -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
If i remember correctly, This is a documented bug in XFMail.
I have used it since 1995 or something, and it still persists. :(
I have tried to send bug reports to Gennady (the author)
but nothing yet.
Does anyone know if it is still being developed.
I seem to remember having seen something about that somewhere, but
right now i can't remember where right now...
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E-Mail: Rikard Johnels
On 02-Nov-99 Rikard Johnels wrote:
If i remember correctly, This is a documented bug in XFMail. I have used it since 1995 or something, and it still persists. :( I have tried to send bug reports to Gennady (the author) but nothing yet.
Does anyone know if it is still being developed. I seem to remember having seen something about that somewhere, but right now i can't remember where right now...
At least the homepage hasn't been updated in ages. The latest released version is from May 1998, and there is no dev. version either. Doesn't look good :( /Fredrik -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
I just saw a new version of XFmail posted on linuxberg.com about a week ago...maybe they are developing it..just lazy about updating the webpage?
If i remember correctly, This is a documented bug in XFMail. I have used it since 1995 or something, and it still persists. :( I have tried to send bug reports to Gennady (the author) but nothing yet.
Does anyone know if it is still being developed. I seem to remember having seen something about that somewhere, but right now i can't remember where right now...
At least the homepage hasn't been updated in ages. The latest released version is from May 1998, and there is no dev. version either. Doesn't look good :(
-- Ben Rosenberg mailto:dragula@primary.net -------------------------- Blackholes happen when God divides by zero. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
On 03-Nov-99 Benjamin A. Rosenberg wrote:
I just saw a new version of XFmail posted on linuxberg.com about a week ago...maybe they are developing it..just lazy about updating the webpage?
Yep, I found it, so it seems you are right. At the 3rd linuxberg mirror I tried they even had the actual software (the other two just had dead links). It has a new homepage at http://xfmail.slappy.org where there seems to be more action than on the old one :) They even have a SuSE rpm. Unfortunately, the cut'n'paste bug this thread originally was about still persists :( /Fredrik [fredrik@warg.nu] -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
On Tue, 26 Oct 1999, Chris Reeves wrote:
Hi all,
I have a Yamaha PCI 128 XG. It sounds wonderful. When it's working. I tried using the demo OSS on the 6.1 CDs, and it set itself up with absolutely no trouble at all. No hand editing, nothing. I made a stupid mistake, though - I installed it on 25/09/99, and so I could only play with it for 6 days before the trial ran out at the end of the month. I had 6 days of sheer bliss.
I now have 2 options: use OSS/Free, use ALSA, or buy something. [snip]
modules? If not, will 6.3 have OSS with modules? Or am I doomed to paying 4Front directly?
Well, I certainly took a long time to ask a simple question! Sorry about that ;-)
It's great that 4Front provides FREE drivers for some of the cards. With the amount of work it takes to write a device driver for a soundcard without the specs it should be worth it to pay them for the commerical version of the driver. Just because Linux is open source don't expect everything to be free. This isn't a flame, just the fact that software is a business and the people at 4Front have to eat. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
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