On 19/02/21 17:24, Per Jessen wrote:

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Hi All

I was trying to unsub from this list from another address of mine, which didn't work properly, so I tested the present provider, which in turn works fine

I couldn't unsubscribe from the list's site (https://lists.opensuse.org) because I haven't got an account and getting a new one was not available.

So I sent an unsub mail to users-leave@opensuse.org, it seems this is the correct procedure now,

The correct address is "users-leave@lists.opensuse.org"

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but I wasn't able to unsubscribe, I got a "delivery notification", which I sent to the list's owner. He said "I'll look into it",

I did ?

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What's up with "users"? Is it gonna be eliminated perhaps?

Nope.

I didn't get an answer from you but from Robin Shepheard

On 19/02/2021 21.52, mauro wrote:

On 19/02/21 17:24, Per Jessen wrote:

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The correct address is  "users-leave@lists.opensuse.org"

Thank you Per, this one worked

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On 31/01/21 15:59, Robin Shepheard wrote: To unsubscribe from a mailing list, simply send an email to **

If you are the owner, who's Robin and why does he give me a wrong address? Has the address changed another time in the meantime? (I'm sure till not long ago it was )

No, the address has not changed recently. It changed on November 10, 2020. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar)

On 20/02/21 08:00, Per Jessen wrote:

Well, I "own" most of our mailing lists as I have been looking after our mailing lists for a few years. When you write to LISTNAME-owner, you most often write to me, but some lists have separate owners.

Ah ok, I see I wrote to users-owner, so Robin must be the admin of this list

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who's Robin and why does he give me a wrong address? Has the address changed another time in the meantime? (I'm sure till not long ago it was )

I'm sure his suggestion was well intended, but maybe he mistyped or accidentally left out 'lists'.

sure! though he could at least have replied to my mail, no problem, I've given up trying to live in a perfect world last year :)

We migrated the mailing lists from mlmmj to mailman last year in November.

I suspected some major change had been taken place, I probably missed the notice of the address change, November was a buzy time All well Cheers,

On 21/02/21 17:56, Per Jessen wrote:

mauro wrote:

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On 20/02/21 08:00, Per Jessen wrote:

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Well, I "own" most of our mailing lists as I have been looking after our mailing lists for a few years. When you write to LISTNAME-owner, you most often write to me, but some lists have separate owners.

Ah ok, I see I wrote to users-owner, so Robin must be the admin of this list

Hmm, maybe, but not that I am aware of. Ah I see, he is a moderator.

uhmmmmm I tend to not liking the concept of moderation per se Are the lists policies published somewhere? (if the moderation involves something different from usual things "11-thou will not profane the name of uncle Bill" etc? I meant Linus, uncle LINUS, long life and prosper to Him!

On 22/02/21 14:28, Bengt Gördén wrote:

On 2021-02-22 15:12, mauro wrote:

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lists policies

Probably something in the line mailing list netiquette. Keep to the mailing list netiquette and all's well.

https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Mailing_list_netiquette

No I didn't mean that, usually I know how to behave (sometimes I like to break the rules tough :)

On Mon, 22 Feb 2021 16:05:01 +0100 Per Jessen wrote:

mauro wrote:

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On 21/02/21 17:56, Per Jessen wrote:

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mauro wrote:

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On 20/02/21 08:00, Per Jessen wrote:

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Well, I "own" most of our mailing lists as I have been looking after our mailing lists for a few years. When you write to LISTNAME-owner, you most often write to me, but some lists have separate owners.

Ah ok, I see I wrote to users-owner, so Robin must be the admin of this list

Hmm, maybe, but not that I am aware of. Ah I see, he is a moderator.

uhmmmmm I tend to not liking the concept of moderation per se

Agree completely. It is an openSUSE board initiated scheme, it's not been running for very long and I don't know how successful it has been. In fact, I have heard nothing since it was initiated.

It's normal for moderators to be respected members of lists (or forums) that they moderate. I don't recall ever seeing a posting from Robin on this list. I wonder how he judges what is necessary of moderation and how we see that on the list? Transparency is important.

On 2/23/21 12:42 AM, mauro wrote:

On 21/02/21 17:56, Per Jessen wrote:

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mauro wrote:

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On 20/02/21 08:00, Per Jessen wrote:

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Well, I "own"  most of our mailing lists as I have been looking after our mailing lists for a few years.  When you write to LISTNAME-owner, you most often write to me, but some lists have separate owners.

Ah ok, I see I wrote to users-owner, so Robin must be the admin of this list

Hmm, maybe, but not that I am aware of.  Ah I see, he is a moderator.

uhmmmmm I tend to not liking the concept of moderation per se Are the lists policies published somewhere? (if the moderation involves something different from usual things "11-thou will not profane the name of uncle Bill" etc?

I meant Linus, uncle LINUS, long life and prosper to Him!

Currently all moderators are really doing is approving or rejecting emails from non list members (mostly rejecting because we get a tonne of spam) -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B