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Fred A. Miller

13 Aug 2003 13 Aug '03

04:14

The latest nVidia driver that one is to install from nVidia after the kernel update just posted and installed by YOU, is NOT usable and WON'T install!! I hope SuSE is working on this, as 3D is "GONE" because of this error. Some have very slow systems now. Fred -- Planet Earth - a subsidiary of Microsoft®. We have no bugs in our software, Never!, We do have undocumented added features, that you will find amusing, at no added cost, to you, at this time.

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Curtis Rey

13 Aug 13 Aug

04:31

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 12 August 2003 11:14 pm, Fred A. Miller wrote:

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The latest nVidia driver that one is to install from nVidia after the kernel update just posted and installed by YOU, is NOT usable and WON'T install!! I hope SuSE is working on this, as 3D is "GONE" because of this error. Some have very slow systems now.

Fred Yep, just been going through the wonderful world of nvidia hell. Ain't it grand!

At first I thought is was because of the new x-100 kernel, then I thought it was the new gcc 3.3 stuff. Back date both to original boxed version. I wish I knew this before. Especially since everytime you install a new kernel you have to install the driver again. Previously not a problem. And here I thought we were over this bump - apparently not. Cheers, Curtis -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/Ob8fiqnGhdjCOJsRAseoAJwOwsACfZ051JQoxzUT/+tiJ6x8qwCcDrQV rw0bqH8kxE+0fb6eRWf8IFE= =9NZX -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Michael McGibben

15 Aug 15 Aug

16:58

Hi List, Am I right in thinking that the 'kernel-source' rpm referred to in the HOWTO is the Nvidia kernel source? I must admit that I am getting thoroughly confused with the whole nvidia process. I think I'll buy a different card! Thanks. Michael.

Ray

19:13

New subject: [SLE] Re: nVidia

On Friday 15 August 2003 16:58, Michael McGibben wrote:

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Hi List,

Am I right in thinking that the 'kernel-source' rpm referred to in the HOWTO is the Nvidia kernel source?

I must admit that I am getting thoroughly confused with the whole nvidia process. I think I'll buy a different card!

Thanks.

Michael.

No - its the Linux kernel source, this can be installed using YOU at the same time as the compiled kernel rpm. The nVidia driver needs to know about some header files in the Linux kernel source so it can talk to it. The package you want is 'kernel-source' -- Ray

Michael McGibben

22:15

New subject: [SLE] Re: nVidia

Hi Ray, Thanks for clearing that up! Cheers. Michael

LinuxWorld999

24 Sep 24 Sep

22:04

New subject: [SLE] nVidia

On Wednesday 13 August 2003 05:31, Curtis Rey wrote:

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On Tuesday 12 August 2003 11:14 pm, Fred A. Miller wrote:

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The latest nVidia driver that one is to install from nVidia after the kernel update just posted and installed by YOU, is NOT usable and WON'T install!! I hope SuSE is working on this, as 3D is "GONE" because of this error. Some have very slow systems now.

<snip>

The latest Nvidia drivers numbered 4496 seem to be causing problems to subscribers of this list. I was also unable to compile and install the drivers. Recently, however, the kernel on this machine was compiled and installed. After this, the Nvidia drivers compiled and installed without a problem. This is not an elegent solution but one way of installing the latest drivers. LW999

Curtis Rey

25 Sep 25 Sep

06:28

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 24 September 2003 17:04, LinuxWorld999 wrote:

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On Wednesday 13 August 2003 05:31, Curtis Rey wrote:

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On Tuesday 12 August 2003 11:14 pm, Fred A. Miller wrote:

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The latest nVidia driver that one is to install from nVidia after the kernel update just posted and installed by YOU, is NOT usable and WON'T install!! I hope SuSE is working on this, as 3D is "GONE" because of this error. Some have very slow systems now.

<snip>

The latest Nvidia drivers numbered 4496 seem to be causing problems to subscribers of this list. I was also unable to compile and install the drivers. Recently, however, the kernel on this machine was compiled and installed. After this, the Nvidia drivers compiled and installed without a problem.

This is not an elegent solution but one way of installing the latest drivers.

LW999

Actually on the suse site their is a link to a support page in the /supplimentary/X/XFree86/nvidia-installer-HOWTO that describes this. Essentially it goes like: cd /usr/src/linux make cloneconfig && make dep (then, 'cause I'm paranoid I do a mk_initrd) Then issue the command export IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH=yes then sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4496-pkg2.run And it should work. The link is at: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/X/XFree86/nvidia-installer-HOWTO.html Also in a text file. Cheers, Curtis. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/cosgiqnGhdjCOJsRAuW8AJ9KgOZisbWRzOyacEMkzhmBfvTGfQCfS+KY 49M1MqL2u8G5/lHL0v/MplQ= =GvLc -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Sid Boyce

13 Aug 13 Aug

05:53

New subject: [SLE] nVidia

The SuSE shipped (boxed) kernel was compiled with an earlier gcc, so if you update to gcc-3.3-43, /var/log/nvidia-installer.log will tell you your kernel was not compiled with the gcc you currently have. The only solution is to recompile the kernel, reboot with option "init 3", then the NVidia kernel will build and install. Regards Sid. Fred A. Miller wrote:

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The latest nVidia driver that one is to install from nVidia after the kernel update just posted and installed by YOU, is NOT usable and WON'T install!! I hope SuSE is working on this, as 3D is "GONE" because of this error. Some have very slow systems now.

Fred

-- Sid Boyce ... hamradio G3VBV ... Cessna/Warrior Pilot Linux only shop

Gerhard den Hollander

06:42

New subject: [SLE] nVidia

* Sid Boyce (Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 06:53:38AM +0100)

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The SuSE shipped (boxed) kernel was compiled with an earlier gcc, so if you update to gcc-3.3-43, /var/log/nvidia-installer.log will tell you your kernel was not compiled with the gcc you currently have.

Even if you have a kernel that is compiled with the correct gcc this will fail. The trick the nvidia makefile uses to catch the gcc version number fails: % gcc --version gcc (GCC) 3.3 20030226 (prerelease) (SuSE Linux) Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. % cat /proc/version Linux version 2.4.20nfs (root@hyperion) (gcc version 3.3 20030226 (prerelease) (SuSE Linux)) #2 SMP Thu Jul 10 13:49:42 CEST 2003 setting IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH to some value prevents this % cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version NVRM version: NVIDIA Linux x86 nvidia.o Kernel Module 1.0-4496 Wed Jul 16 19:03:09 PDT 2003 GCC version: gcc version 3.3 20030226 (prerelease) (SuSE Linux)

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The only solution is to recompile the kernel, reboot with option "init 3", then the NVidia kernel will build and install. Regards Sid.

Fred A. Miller wrote:

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The latest nVidia driver that one is to install from nVidia after the kernel update just posted and installed by YOU, is NOT usable and WON'T install!! I hope SuSE is working on this, as 3D is "GONE" because of this error. Some have very slow systems now.

Fred

Kind regards, -- Gerhard den Hollander Phone :+31-10.280.1515 ICT manager Direct:+31-10.280.1539 Jason Geosystems BV Fax :+31-10.280.1511 gdenhollander@Fugro-Jason.com POBox 1573 visit us at http://www.Fugro-Jason.com 3000 BN Rotterdam JASON.......#1 in Reservoir Characterization The Netherlands This e-mail and any attachment is/are intended solely for the named addressee(s) and may contain information that is confidential and privileged.

Paul Cooke

09:28

New subject: [SLE] nVidia

On Wednesday 13 August 2003 7:42 am, Gerhard den Hollander wrote:

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* Sid Boyce (Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 06:53:38AM +0100)

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The SuSE shipped (boxed) kernel was compiled with an earlier gcc, so if you update to gcc-3.3-43, /var/log/nvidia-installer.log will tell you your kernel was not compiled with the gcc you currently have.

Even if you have a kernel that is compiled with the correct gcc this will fail. The trick the nvidia makefile uses to catch the gcc version number fails:

% gcc --version gcc (GCC) 3.3 20030226 (prerelease) (SuSE Linux) Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

% cat /proc/version Linux version 2.4.20nfs (root@hyperion) (gcc version 3.3 20030226 (prerelease) (SuSE Linux)) #2 SMP Thu Jul 10 13:49:42 CEST 2003

setting IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH to some value prevents this

% cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version NVRM version: NVIDIA Linux x86 nvidia.o Kernel Module 1.0-4496 Wed Jul 16 19:03:09 PDT 2003 GCC version: gcc version 3.3 20030226 (prerelease) (SuSE Linux)

the nvidia HOWTO on the SuSE site has changed in the last couple of weeks (wow it was changed this morning... what a coincidence) or so to include the following text: ------------------------------------------- 2) Use the nvidia installer. export IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH=yes sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4363.run ------------------------------------------- but what it doesn't tell you to do is that to run the nVidia installer you must not have X running and must be in either runlevel three or else have booted up into "safe mode" for a console session. All the steps upto "sh NVIDIA-Linux-xxxxx.run" can be done in "normal" mode, that one can't. You must then execute SaX2 whilst in console mode as well.

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The only solution is to recompile the kernel, reboot with option "init 3", then the NVidia kernel will build and install. Regards Sid.

Fred A. Miller wrote:

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The latest nVidia driver that one is to install from nVidia after the kernel update just posted and installed by YOU, is NOT usable and WON'T install!! I hope SuSE is working on this, as 3D is "GONE" because of this error. Some have very slow systems now.

Fred

Kind regards, -- Gerhard den Hollander Phone :+31-10.280.1515 ICT manager Direct:+31-10.280.1539 Jason Geosystems BV Fax :+31-10.280.1511 gdenhollander@Fugro-Jason.com POBox 1573 visit us at http://www.Fugro-Jason.com 3000 BN Rotterdam JASON.......#1 in Reservoir Characterization The Netherlands This e-mail and any attachment is/are intended solely for the named addressee(s) and may contain information that is confidential and privileged.

Gerhard den Hollander

10:09

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the nvidia HOWTO on the SuSE site has changed in the last couple of weeks (wow it was changed this morning... what a coincidence) or so to include the following text:

------------------------------------------- 2) Use the nvidia installer.

export IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH=yes sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4363.run

-------------------------------------------

but what it doesn't tell you to do is that to run the nVidia installer you must not have X running and must be in either runlevel three or else have booted up into "safe mode" for a console session.

Not having X running (which the installer tells you to not do) should be enough. I've installed this on a few boxes simply by doing ssh boxname -l root /etc/init.d/xdm stop [optionally rmmod nvidia.o] sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-XXXXXXXXX.run /etc/init.d/xdm start Kind regards, -- Gerhard den Hollander Phone :+31-10.280.1515 ICT manager Direct:+31-10.280.1539 Jason Geosystems BV Fax :+31-10.280.1511 gdenhollander@Fugro-Jason.com POBox 1573 visit us at http://www.Fugro-Jason.com 3000 BN Rotterdam JASON.......#1 in Reservoir Characterization The Netherlands This e-mail and any attachment is/are intended solely for the named addressee(s) and may contain information that is confidential and privileged.

suse_ground

11:11

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On Wednesday 13 August 2003 13:09, Gerhard den Hollander wrote: I think the only solution to get nvidia properly running is to wait for nvidia to compile new modules acording to this new updated kernel. I tried a lot of procedures, even using older nvidia installers ... nothing worked, even changing IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH to yes.

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the nvidia HOWTO on the SuSE site has changed in the last couple of weeks (wow it was changed this morning... what a coincidence) or so to include the following text:

------------------------------------------- 2) Use the nvidia installer.

export IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH=yes sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4363.run

-------------------------------------------

but what it doesn't tell you to do is that to run the nVidia installer you must not have X running and must be in either runlevel three or else have booted up into "safe mode" for a console session.

Not having X running (which the installer tells you to not do) should be enough.

I've installed this on a few boxes simply by doing ssh boxname -l root /etc/init.d/xdm stop [optionally rmmod nvidia.o] sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-XXXXXXXXX.run /etc/init.d/xdm start

Kind regards, -- Gerhard den Hollander Phone :+31-10.280.1515 ICT manager Direct:+31-10.280.1539 Jason Geosystems BV Fax :+31-10.280.1511 gdenhollander@Fugro-Jason.com POBox 1573 visit us at http://www.Fugro-Jason.com 3000 BN Rotterdam JASON.......#1 in Reservoir Characterization The Netherlands This e-mail and any attachment is/are intended solely for the named addressee(s) and may contain information that is confidential and privileged.

Paul Cooke

14:29

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excuse the top posting but I was fighting with Pine in safe mode... arrrggghhh... I followed the nvidia instructions and the new SuSE howto to the letter, but when launching SaX2 to configure my graphics I get an "unsupported VGA mode" message floating on my LCD monitor and I get the same thing when attempting to start SuSE in normal graphical mode... How th F can i set my graphics up if I can't get SaX2 up in the first place??? OK... forced in the end to swap monitors over... arrgghhh. tried SaX2 --l and SaX2 --reinit no joy... Why the F does SaX2 _have_ to startup in a graphical server??? why can't it be started in an ncurses form like Yast2 can be and then just fire up the x server for the confirmatory test??? I'm lucky in that i had a spare monitor I could lift from another machine, what about people with no spares??? ps, my display device that was giving me grief was a Proview CY-565. I don't think SaX2 was able to get any info from it at all when queried and defaulted to a mode that wasn't supported... strange that because it was a least displayable before the kernel and nvidia hassle and I was able to use one of the Generic LCD monitors... it would be nice if SaX2 started up from safe mode and supported framebuffer by default as everything I've ever connected works in that display mode... On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Paul Cooke wrote:

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On Wednesday 13 August 2003 7:42 am, Gerhard den Hollander wrote:

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* Sid Boyce (Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 06:53:38AM +0100)

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The SuSE shipped (boxed) kernel was compiled with an earlier gcc, so if you update to gcc-3.3-43, /var/log/nvidia-installer.log will tell you your kernel was not compiled with the gcc you currently have.

Even if you have a kernel that is compiled with the correct gcc this will fail. The trick the nvidia makefile uses to catch the gcc version number fails:

% gcc --version gcc (GCC) 3.3 20030226 (prerelease) (SuSE Linux) Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

% cat /proc/version Linux version 2.4.20nfs (root@hyperion) (gcc version 3.3 20030226 (prerelease) (SuSE Linux)) #2 SMP Thu Jul 10 13:49:42 CEST 2003

setting IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH to some value prevents this

% cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version NVRM version: NVIDIA Linux x86 nvidia.o Kernel Module 1.0-4496 Wed Jul 16 19:03:09 PDT 2003 GCC version: gcc version 3.3 20030226 (prerelease) (SuSE Linux)

the nvidia HOWTO on the SuSE site has changed in the last couple of weeks (wow it was changed this morning... what a coincidence) or so to include the following text:

------------------------------------------- 2) Use the nvidia installer.

export IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH=yes sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4363.run

-------------------------------------------

but what it doesn't tell you to do is that to run the nVidia installer you must not have X running and must be in either runlevel three or else have booted up into "safe mode" for a console session. All the steps upto "sh NVIDIA-Linux-xxxxx.run" can be done in "normal" mode, that one can't. You must then execute SaX2 whilst in console mode as well.

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The only solution is to recompile the kernel, reboot with option "init 3", then the NVidia kernel will build and install. Regards Sid.

Fred A. Miller wrote:

...
The latest nVidia driver that one is to install from nVidia after the kernel update just posted and installed by YOU, is NOT usable and WON'T install!! I hope SuSE is working on this, as 3D is "GONE" because of this error. Some have very slow systems now.

Fred

Kind regards, -- Gerhard den Hollander Phone :+31-10.280.1515 ICT manager Direct:+31-10.280.1539 Jason Geosystems BV Fax :+31-10.280.1511 gdenhollander@Fugro-Jason.com POBox 1573 visit us at http://www.Fugro-Jason.com 3000 BN Rotterdam JASON.......#1 in Reservoir Characterization The Netherlands This e-mail and any attachment is/are intended solely for the named addressee(s) and may contain information that is confidential and privileged.

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Ray

10:49

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On Wednesday 13 August 2003 06:42, Gerhard den Hollander wrote:

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* Sid Boyce (Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 06:53:38AM +0100)

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The SuSE shipped (boxed) kernel was compiled with an earlier gcc, so if you update to gcc-3.3-43, /var/log/nvidia-installer.log will tell you your kernel was not compiled with the gcc you currently have.

Even if you have a kernel that is compiled with the correct gcc this will fail. The trick the nvidia makefile uses to catch the gcc version number fails:

% gcc --version gcc (GCC) 3.3 20030226 (prerelease) (SuSE Linux) Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

% cat /proc/version Linux version 2.4.20nfs (root@hyperion) (gcc version 3.3 20030226 (prerelease) (SuSE Linux)) #2 SMP Thu Jul 10 13:49:42 CEST 2003

setting IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH to some value prevents this

I got it to work by setting IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH to 1, then running the installer. (env IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH=1 sh <NVIDIA-intstall-script>) I am using the Athlon kernel build 100 installed by YOU (with the sources). The driver works fine, getting thousands of fps in gears etc. If you do this, do check using the above methods that you really *do* have the same gcc as the kernel was compiled with! <snip/> -- Ray

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