-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 21:34:35 -0500 "Greg Freemyer" wrote:

On Dec 30, 2007 2:26 AM, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:

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Hi,

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I see in the build service there is MozillaFirefox-2.9.92-8.1.x86_64.rpm

Anyone know what that is in laymens terms.

And if not Firefox 3 Beta 2, is anyone experimenting with it under 10.3 Suse yet?

That's Firefox 3 beta 2 indeed. Feel free to test it but keep a backup of your FF2 profile to be sure.

Wolfgang

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Firefox 3 beta 2 definitely feels faster.

I've tried gmail's web interface and Google Docs. Both have been pretty slow for me the past.

Could just be good luck / timing / phase of the moon, but both seem snappier to me.

Thanks Greg

Hi Greg, It's not an illusion or solar system object alignment that is blessing your desktop with a faster, sleeker internet browser. truth be told, it's all the hard work that has gone into this rendition of Mozilla Firefox. Mark -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHeFn6AHUWFbtwPigRAitaAJ9dJPU4k2dOKSjIIHRvFumbTlBMeACfXpEj 0wBJ4N5fJUCgUmUE2YY5q6k= =Hl6e -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:38:52 -0500 "Greg Freemyer" wrote:

You're right, the Web 2.0 stuff seems to be really good in Beta 2.

But I just tried to go to youtube, and I don't get anything in video box. No way to click play.

No a critical thing for me, but a surprise.

Is there something I need to configure / install to get that working?

Greg

Hi Greg, I just gave Youtube a shot and everything worked normally. You might try uninstalling and reinstalling to see if that clears things up. I've got a pretty standard 10.3 installation so the only things installed are what comes right from the DVD. When I installed FF3 I used the one click install method from the OpenSUSE Build site. List of plugins from Mozilla: ============================================= Shockwave Flash File name: npwrapper.libflashplayer.so Shockwave Flash 9.0 r48 MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Yes application/futuresplash FutureSplash Player spl Yes Default Plugin File name: libnullplugin.so The default plugin handles plugin data for mimetypes and extensions that are not specified and facilitates downloading of new plugins. MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled * All types .* No Helix DNA Plugin: RealPlayer G2 Plug-In Compatible File name: npwrapper.nphelix.so Helix DNA Plugin: RealPlayer G2 Plug-In Compatible version 0.4.0.626 built with gcc 3.3.3 on Jul 26 2007 MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin RealPlayer Plugin Metafile rpm Yes NPAPI Plugins Wrapper 0.9.91.4 File name: npwrapper.so nspluginwrapper is a cross-platform NPAPI plugin viewer, in particular for linux/i386 plugins. This is beta software available under the terms of the GNU General Public License. MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled unknown/mime-type Do not open none Yes Mark -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHeVHPAHUWFbtwPigRArMvAJ90y2dHriWXUAnlv7J3HHhyRs5wfgCfd/0z kBo+GjkWr2mn+8lM3wFQzIM= =Naqh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- N�����r��y隊Z)z{.�ﮞ˛���m�)z{.��+�Z+i�b�*'jW(�f�vǦj)h���Ǿ��i�������

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:42:35 -0800 Joe Sloan wrote:

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But I just tried to go to youtube, and I don't get anything in video box. No way to click play.

Dunno, I just checked youtube, all good, and the movie trailers at quicktime.com play well too.

The only issue I saw here was a lot of ff2 extensions that are unsupported in ff 3, but nothing I can't live without. ff3 is so snappy that I think I'll just stick with it from here on out.

Joe

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On Jan 2, 2008 1:25 PM, Greg Freemyer wrote:

On Dec 31, 2007 3:42 PM, Joe Sloan wrote:

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Greg Freemyer wrote:

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But I just tried to go to youtube, and I don't get anything in video box. No way to click play.

Dunno, I just checked youtube, all good, and the movie trailers at quicktime.com play well too.

The trailers aren't working for me either. And if I click "install plug-in" it says "No suitable plug-ins found". I have installed anything via yast since installing ff 3 beta 2.

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On Jan 2, 2008 3:53 PM, Sloan wrote:

Greg Freemyer wrote:

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On Dec 31, 2007 3:42 PM, Joe Sloan wrote:

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Dunno, I just checked youtube, all good, and the movie trailers at quicktime.com play well too.

The trailers aren't working for me either. And if I click "install plug-in" it says "No suitable plug-ins found". I have installed anything via yast since installing ff 3 beta 2.

What do you see at the URL about:plugins?

I show the same plugins as I had for ff2 - and specifically, mplayer plug-in handles quicktime. Did you perhaps have some other setup for playing multimedia, which might have been broken by the upgrade?

Joe

FYI: I'm running pure x64. Was working fine with openSuse 10.3 and firefox 2.0, but it may be may problem. Anyway with "about:plugins:" I only show 4 plugins: Shockwave Flash File name: npwrapper.libflashplayer.so Shockwave Flash 9.0 r115 MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Yes application/futuresplash FutureSplash Player spl Yes Default Plugin File name: libnullplugin.so The default plugin handles plugin data for mimetypes and extensions that are not specified and facilitates downloading of new plugins. MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled * All types .* No Helix DNA Plugin: RealPlayer G2 Plug-In Compatible File name: npwrapper.nphelix.so Helix DNA Plugin: RealPlayer G2 Plug-In Compatible version 0.4.0.626 built with gcc 3.3.3 on Jul 26 2007 MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin RealPlayer Plugin Metafile rpm Yes NPAPI Plugins Wrapper 0.9.91.4 File name: npwrapper.so nspluginwrapper is a cross-platform NPAPI plugin viewer, in particular for linux/i386 plugins. This is beta software available under the terms of the GNU General Public License. MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled unknown/mime-type Do not open none Yes ========== And that's it. Greg -- Greg Freemyer Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer First 99 Days Litigation White Paper - http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/99%20Days%20whitepaper.pdf The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Jan 2, 2008 5:59 PM, Sloan wrote:

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On Jan 2, 2008 3:53 PM, Sloan wrote:

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Greg Freemyer wrote:

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On Dec 31, 2007 3:42 PM, Joe Sloan wrote:

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Dunno, I just checked youtube, all good, and the movie trailers at quicktime.com play well too.

The trailers aren't working for me either. And if I click "install plug-in" it says "No suitable plug-ins found". I have installed anything via yast since installing ff 3 beta 2.

What do you see at the URL about:plugins?

I show the same plugins as I had for ff2 - and specifically, mplayer plug-in handles quicktime. Did you perhaps have some other setup for playing multimedia, which might have been broken by the upgrade?

Joe

FYI: I'm running pure x64. Was working fine with openSuse 10.3 and firefox 2.0, but it may be may problem. Ah, 64-bit desktop. OK, all bets are off then. I'd advise going back to

Greg Freemyer wrote: the official suse 2.0 release of firefox. I've sworn off 64-bit desktop for now, since I want all the gaming and multimedia stuff to be 100%. Maybe in a couple years I'll try it again, but for me the pain isn't worth the gain.

I use 64-bit linux on big servers that are running plain vanilla services, but that's about it. I even threw in the towel and finally converted my mail server from 10.2/64 -> 10.3/32 and the improvement has been dramatic, since the machine was nowhere near big enough to gain any benefit from the 64-bit OS. In addition, 3rd party software I'm using seems to have a lot of problems in their 64-bit versions, but the 32-bit versions works perfectly.

I saw a couple posts that 10.3 was working good with 64-bit, so I decided to install that way. This is my first glitch, but this is my office desktop. I don't need multi-media, so I'll stick with what I have. Too much hassle to switch to 32-bit, and so far the speed of FF3B2 far outweighs the lack youtube, etc. Since this is a beta merely hosted in the build service, should I file a Novell Bugzilla against it? Greg -- Greg Freemyer Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer First 99 Days Litigation White Paper - http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/99%20Days%20whitepaper.pdf The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Mark Weaver wrote:

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 21:34:35 -0500 "Greg Freemyer" wrote:

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On Dec 30, 2007 2:26 AM, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:

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Hi,

Greg Freemyer schrieb:

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I see in the build service there is MozillaFirefox-2.9.92-8.1.x86_64.rpm

Anyone know what that is in laymens terms.

And if not Firefox 3 Beta 2, is anyone experimenting with it under 10.3 Suse yet? That's Firefox 3 beta 2 indeed. Feel free to test it but keep a backup of your FF2 profile to be sure.

Wolfgang 5 Minute Review

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Firefox 3 beta 2 definitely feels faster.

...

I've tried gmail's web interface and Google Docs. Both have been pretty slow for me the past.

...

Could just be good luck / timing / phase of the moon, but both seem snappier to me.

...

Thanks Greg

Hi Greg,

It's not an illusion or solar system object alignment that is blessing your desktop with a faster, sleeker internet browser. truth be told, it's all the hard work that has gone into this rendition of Mozilla Firefox.

Mark Sure he didn't uninstall beagle? Dave

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Greg Freemyer wrote:

I've now got a couple days experience. with Firefox 3 Beta 2.

I don't do a tremendous amount of multimedia website browsing, but I do spend a lot of time interacting with Gmail and I have Web 2.0 Rails app I use several times a day.

Overall, the speed improvement of this is fantastic. And I suspect the reliability is also improved. ie. I used to get the feeling things would be better if I exited and restarted Firefox every day or so. So far I have noticed no degradation at all running FF3B2.

If there are any developers onlne, thanks fro great improvements.

FYI: The only glitch I had was having to upgrade to nspluginwrapper 0.9.91.5 manually. Would be nice if that was part of one-click install.

Greg

On Dec 30, 2007 9:34 PM, Greg Freemyer wrote:

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On Dec 30, 2007 2:26 AM, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:

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Hi,

Greg Freemyer schrieb:

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I see in the build service there is MozillaFirefox-2.9.92-8.1.x86_64.rpm

Anyone know what that is in laymens terms.

And if not Firefox 3 Beta 2, is anyone experimenting with it under 10.3 Suse yet?

That's Firefox 3 beta 2 indeed. Feel free to test it but keep a backup of your FF2 profile to be sure.

Wolfgang

5 Minute Review

Firefox 3 beta 2 definitely feels faster.

I've tried gmail's web interface and Google Docs. Both have been pretty slow for me the past.

Could just be good luck / timing / phase of the moon, but both seem snappier to me.

Thanks

Greg -- Greg Freemyer Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer First 99 Days Litigation White Paper - http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/99%20Days%20whitepaper.pdf

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I second that thanks to the developers for their hard work. My list of issues, at present, stands at: 1) Print preview results in a crash. 2) The "new" Yahoo mail interface does not work at all. The old Yahoo mail interface often (about one out of three times) when trying to view an email message. -- --Moby They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Moby wrote:

I second that thanks to the developers for their hard work. My list of issues, at present, stands at:

1) Print preview results in a crash.

That's most probably the same for FF3 and FF2 and is a bug in gtk2 which has been fixed already. Probably not if you are using gtk2 from GNOME:STABLE. The official fixed version is gtk2-2.12.0-5.4 Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Greg Freemyer wrote:

If there are any developers onlne, thanks fro great improvements.

FYI: The only glitch I had was having to upgrade to nspluginwrapper 0.9.91.5 manually. Would be nice if that was part of one-click install.

The reason why you needed nspluginwrapper 0.9.91.5 is the flash-player update you got recently. So the correct solution would need to be in the flash-player package probably. It should require nspluginwrapper >= 0.9.91.5 for x86_64 architecture since the older version doesn't work anymore with the newer flash plugin. (that's only a sidenote since it's nothing a user should have to care about) Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Ben Kevan wrote:

On Friday 14 March 2008 05:25:22 am Greg Freemyer wrote:

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FYI: That build service now has Firefox 3 Beta 4. Not many blocker bugs left. ANd I saw benchmark that claimed FF3B4 is 5 times faster than FF2.

Fantastic job the developers are doing.

Greg

Yes, and it uses Xulrunner 1.9b and sets MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME to /usr/lib/xulrunner1.9* which Lotus Notes doesn't like :(..

I can just point the variable to /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.8.* but don't know how it would affect FF 3.

What is the varaible used for? Does anyone know? Is it more of a development thing?

Could you please elaborate? Firefox 3.0b4 depends on XULRunner 1.9b4 that's correct but it doesn't set any MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME (or at least shouldn't) variable. What Firefox does is to search for a compatible GRE in /etc/gre.d/ and find the XULRunner 1.9 runtime defined there. How is Lotus Notes connected here? Is it a XUL application? If yes, does it use a startsript to define a XULRunner location? Does it have its own XULRunner? Does it use a system installed one? Does it have a file called application.ini? What is the content of that file? Even if Firefox would define a MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME how would Lotus Notes know about it? It's no browser plugin I assume. Sorry for being ignorant but I never had to use Lotus Notes but I'm very interested in how it interacts with XULRunner and Firefox. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org