31 Jul
2018
31 Jul
'18
5:24 a.m.
I printed out this article-
https://au.pcmag.com/software/138/guide/the-best-vpn-services-of-2018
but the table at the beginning of the article won't print -- the
printing begins with the Heading then skips the table of the various
VPNs and continues from "VPNs Keep You Safe Online".
I had to use the Firefox Add-on 'Screengrab' to save that table to a
file and then printed that *.png file.
Any thoughts as to why that table will not print as part of that article
but has to be saved as a separate file in order to print it?
(Using Leap 15.0 [with kernel 4.17.11-3], Firefox v 60.0.1esr, and the
printer is Epson Expression Photo XP-960.)
BC
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31 Jul
7:02 a.m.
On 31/07/18 14:24, Basil Chupin wrote:
I printed out this article-
https://au.pcmag.com/software/138/guide/the-best-vpn-services-of-2018
but the table at the beginning of the article won't print -- the
printing begins with the Heading then skips the table of the various
VPNs and continues from "VPNs Keep You Safe Online".
I had to use the Firefox Add-on 'Screengrab' to save that table to a
file and then printed that *.png file.
Any thoughts as to why that table will not print as part of that
article but has to be saved as a separate file in order to print it?
(Using Leap 15.0 [with kernel 4.17.11-3], Firefox v 60.0.1esr, and the
printer is Epson Expression Photo XP-960.)
BC
Heck, the above is only a teeny-weeny problem when printing that
article: I came across a nightmare when I actually looked at what I
printed out (21 pages of it). Every printed page has the magazine's
Header on it (the 'PC News Top 10 Opinions Features' etc) and this
"overprints" the text of the article meaning that text on a following
page is missing and does not follow-on from the text on the previous
page :-(. Here is an example of what I mean:
http://susepaste.org/53682742
Something is telling me that this is not how things are supposed to work
and some application is either misbehaving or some setting(s) is/are not
correctly set.
Does anyone, please, have a solution to this problem?
Thanks in advance.
BC
PS I have tried writing the article to a *.pdf file but this does not
solve the problem.
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9:48 a.m.
On 31/07/18 08:02, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 31/07/18 14:24, Basil Chupin wrote:
I don't have a solution. I can only confirm that the same happens if I
try to print to a PDF. And it's not the only page that presents these
non-printing elements. I try to save my bank and credit card statements
as PDFs in the same way, or confirmation pages of payments. Since a year
or so ago something changed and the only things that print are headers
and titles, whilst all the actual values are missing. At first I thought
it was my themeing and the amounts were printing in white against a
white background, but no, even trying to make a selection or search the
missing text within the file, it's clear there's nothing there.
I also wondered if there is some page styling that explicitly allows for
non-printing, in the same way that some sites can prohibit certain
right-click actions. But I wouldn't have thought a website could
override the system and there's no reason these elements should be
hidden anyway, so it must be some kind of bug.
Your tip for using a screen grab could be handy. I'd have thought the
new built-in screenshot tool in the latest Firefox could do the job?
gumb
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I printed out this article-
https://au.pcmag.com/software/138/guide/the-best-vpn-services-of-2018
but the table at the beginning of the article won't print -- the
printing begins with the Heading then skips the table of the various
VPNs and continues from "VPNs Keep You Safe Online".
I had to use the Firefox Add-on 'Screengrab' to save that table to a
file and then printed that *.png file.
Any thoughts as to why that table will not print as part of that
article but has to be saved as a separate file in order to print it?
(Using Leap 15.0 [with kernel 4.17.11-3], Firefox v 60.0.1esr, and the
printer is Epson Expression Photo XP-960.)
BC
Heck, the above is only a teeny-weeny problem when printing that
article: I came across a nightmare when I actually looked at what I
printed out (21 pages of it). Every printed page has the magazine's
Header on it (the 'PC News Top 10 Opinions Features' etc) and this
"overprints" the text of the article meaning that text on a following
page is missing and does not follow-on from the text on the previous
page :-(. Here is an example of what I mean:
http://susepaste.org/53682742
Something is telling me that this is not how things are supposed to work
and some application is either misbehaving or some setting(s) is/are not
correctly set.
Does anyone, please, have a solution to this problem?
Thanks in advance.
BC
PS I have tried writing the article to a *.pdf file but this does not
solve the problem.
10:34 a.m.
Le 31/07/2018 à 10:48, gumb a écrit :
I don't have a solution. I can only confirm that
the same happens if I
on some pages, there is a "pretty print" option on Firefox
example here
https://www.francetvinfo.fr/economie/emploi/usine-hydrolienne-a-peine-ouver…
the option is a small icon (book) on the right of the url bar
I dunno when and why this option appears
jdd
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11:28 a.m.
On 31/07/18 11:34, jdd(a)dodin.org wrote:
on some pages, there is a "pretty print"
option on Firefox
example here
https://www.francetvinfo.fr/economie/emploi/usine-hydrolienne-a-peine-ouver…
the option is a small icon (book) on the right of the url bar
I dunno when and why this option appears
That's the Reader View mode icon. It's not expressly designed for
printing. If it provides a better and more simplified printout that's
rather more a side-effect. Its principle function is just to make the
essential page text more readable and with some options for changing the
fonts and backgrounds to aid with visual impairments. I don't know the
criteria for how and when that appears and whether developers can
disable it.
Tip: it's less and less commonly the case, but occasionally you can use
that mode to get around paywalls and show the hidden text otherwise
withheld on the standard layout. Developers have cottoned on to that
though so it doesn't work so often as it used to.
To return to the topic, in my own examples, on the problematic pages
such as those of my bank, there is sometimes a 'printable page' option
provided by the website, but even then the same critical elements are
missing.
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4 Aug
11:10 a.m.
On 31/07/18 19:34, jdd(a)dodin.org wrote:
Le 31/07/2018 à 10:48, gumb a écrit :
Y-E-S-S-S!
THANK you, jdd, this did the trick! :-) I can now print the article.
BUT, the Table at the beginning of the article does not print out.
However, this is not a problem as I printed it out by capturing it first
as a *.png file and printing that out. And then there is the way how
Linda printed that first page (in Landscape mode).
But not I have another small 'hassle' :-(: I don't know where the size
of the font comes from but the font used during printing is quite large
-- almost double the size of the font seen in this post -- and I need to
make it smaller to use less paper when printing that article.
I don't have a solution. I can only confirm
that the same happens if I
on some pages, there is a "pretty print" option on Firefox
example here
https://www.francetvinfo.fr/economie/emploi/usine-hydrolienne-a-peine-ouver…
the option is a small icon (book) on the right of the url bar I dunno when and why this option appears
As long as it appears to be able to print web pages such as the ones
containing that article re the VPNs I don't care what makes that little
"icon" appear :-).
BC
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11:21 a.m.
Le 04/08/2018 à 12:10, Basil Chupin a écrit :
THANK you, jdd, this did the trick! :-) I can now print the article.
BUT, the Table at the beginning of the article does not print out.
prints in landscape mode
jdd
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5 Aug
4:56 a.m.
On 04/08/18 20:21, jdd(a)dodin.org wrote:
Le 04/08/2018 à 12:10, Basil Chupin a écrit :
Yes, as Linda suggested, but even before posting my question here I had
already printed it out by first saving that Table/graphic as a *.png
file and then printing it out.
BC
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THANK you, jdd, this did the trick! :-) I can now print the article.
BUT, the Table at the beginning of the article does not print out.
prints in landscape mode
jdd 
4 Aug
4 Aug
12:51 p.m.
On 2018-08-04 12:10, Basil Chupin wrote:
But not I have another small 'hassle' :-(: I
don't know where the size
of the font comes from but the font used during printing is quite large
-- almost double the size of the font seen in this post -- and I need to
make it smaller to use less paper when printing that article.
In those cases, I copy-paste to LibreOffice writer, and change things at
will.
Two possibilities: paste with all formats (well, what LO thinks of them)
or paste as plain text, and you do the entire formatting. Another
alternative is to paste with format but avoiding boxes and frames.
In this case, if you use the "reader view toggle" it is much easier.
I did it in an instant, will email it to you (or to anybody that wants
it, offline). It still needs adjusting of the figures at the list of
vpns parts, I leave that to you.
There is an option to remove links in the text, replacing them with the
content. Used to replace http images with their content, so that the
document doesn't depend on external sources. I do not see the option
this time or it is greyed out.
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5 Aug
4:51 a.m.
On 04/08/18 20:10, Basil Chupin wrote:
BC
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On 31/07/18 19:34, jdd(a)dodin.org wrote:
SOLVED! re the size of font.
I posted the above in a hurry, in a hurry to repond to my wife's call to
stop fooling around on the computer and to come and watch a movie on the
TV :-) and therefore didn't get the chance to do some exploring re the
options one gets when that icon-thingie is activated. Well, I was able
to do this just a short time ago and found that the option is there,
staring me in the face and is located in that menu on the left-hand in
that narrow column. Not only can one change the size of the font but
also the width of the printed text (by adjusting the '><').
And so, thanks once again jdd for telling me/us about that lill
book-looking icon in the URL field of FF.
Le 31/07/2018 à 10:48, gumb a écrit :
Y-E-S-S-S!
THANK you, jdd, this did the trick! :-) I can now print the article.
BUT, the Table at the beginning of the article does not print out.
However, this is not a problem as I printed it out by capturing it
first as a *.png file and printing that out. And then there is the way
how Linda printed that first page (in Landscape mode).
But not I have another small 'hassle' :-(: I don't know where the size
of the font comes from but the font used during printing is quite
large -- almost double the size of the font seen in this post -- and I
need to make it smaller to use less paper when printing that article. I don't have a solution. I can only confirm
that the same happens if I
on some pages, there is a "pretty print" option on Firefox
example here
https://www.francetvinfo.fr/economie/emploi/usine-hydrolienne-a-peine-ouver…
the option is a small icon (book) on the right of the url bar I dunno when and why this option appears
As long as it appears to be able to print web pages such as the ones
containing that article re the VPNs I don't care what makes that
little "icon" appear :-).
BC
7:48 a.m.
Le 05/08/2018 à 05:51, Basil Chupin a écrit :
And so, thanks once again jdd for telling me/us about
that lill
book-looking icon in the URL field of FF.
you are welcome :-)
jdd
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1:09 p.m.
On 2018-08-05 05:51, Basil Chupin wrote:
SOLVED! re the size of font.
I posted the above in a hurry, in a hurry to repond to my wife's call to
stop fooling around on the computer and to come and watch a movie on the
TV :-) and therefore didn't get the chance to do some exploring re the
options one gets when that icon-thingie is activated. Well, I was able
to do this just a short time ago and found that the option is there,
staring me in the face and is located in that menu on the left-hand in
that narrow column. Not only can one change the size of the font but
also the width of the printed text (by adjusting the '><').
And so, thanks once again jdd for telling me/us about that lill
book-looking icon in the URL field of FF.
I had not even noticed the menu on the left side :-o
I have used the feature for months, but I never noticed the menu.
It can even read aloud the text, but it is horrible voice rendering.
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4 Aug
8:17 a.m.
On 31/07/18 18:48, gumb wrote:
On 31/07/18 08:02, Basil Chupin wrote:
I didn't know about the screengrab option in FF so thanks for pointing
it out.
However, there is no way that I would use it as (from what I saw) it
requires that I have to create a 'Firefox account'.
I always use either Screengrab!, a FF Add-on, or Spectacle, which is
part of openSUSE.
I did use Screengrab to capture that article but the only sensible way
to do it with Screengrab would be to capture one page per 'grab' in
order to print one page of text without that "PC mag." header. I may
have to buy the mag. at the newsagency provided it is still available
for sale.
BC
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On 31/07/18 14:24, Basil Chupin wrote:
I don't have a solution. I can only confirm that the same happens if I
try to print to a PDF. And it's not the only page that presents these
non-printing elements. I try to save my bank and credit card
statements as PDFs in the same way, or confirmation pages of payments.
Since a year or so ago something changed and the only things that
print are headers and titles, whilst all the actual values are
missing. At first I thought it was my themeing and the amounts were
printing in white against a white background, but no, even trying to
make a selection or search the missing text within the file, it's
clear there's nothing there.
I also wondered if there is some page styling that explicitly allows
for non-printing, in the same way that some sites can prohibit certain
right-click actions. But I wouldn't have thought a website could
override the system and there's no reason these elements should be
hidden anyway, so it must be some kind of bug.
Your tip for using a screen grab could be handy. I'd have thought the
new built-in screenshot tool in the latest Firefox could do the job? I printed out this article-
https://au.pcmag.com/software/138/guide/the-best-vpn-services-of-2018
but the table at the beginning of the article won't print -- the
printing begins with the Heading then skips the table of the various
VPNs and continues from "VPNs Keep You Safe Online".
I had to use the Firefox Add-on 'Screengrab' to save that table to a
file and then printed that *.png file.
Any thoughts as to why that table will not print as part of that
article but has to be saved as a separate file in order to print it?
(Using Leap 15.0 [with kernel 4.17.11-3], Firefox v 60.0.1esr, and
the printer is Epson Expression Photo XP-960.)
BC
Heck, the above is only a teeny-weeny problem when printing that
article: I came across a nightmare when I actually looked at what I
printed out (21 pages of it). Every printed page has the magazine's
Header on it (the 'PC News Top 10 Opinions Features' etc) and this
"overprints" the text of the article meaning that text on a following
page is missing and does not follow-on from the text on the previous
page :-(. Here is an example of what I mean:
http://susepaste.org/53682742
Something is telling me that this is not how things are supposed to
work and some application is either misbehaving or some setting(s)
is/are not correctly set.
Does anyone, please, have a solution to this problem?
Thanks in advance.
BC
PS I have tried writing the article to a *.pdf file but this does not
solve the problem.
9:43 a.m.
did you notice that the print is perfect if done in landscape mode?
jdd
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On 04/08/18 09:17, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 31/07/18 18:48, gumb wrote:
I wasn't aware that the FF screenshot tool was linked to having an
account. Although I found the other day that it doesn't work on certain
pop-up windows, even though the option remains visible and not greyed out.
One thing I like about it is that after clicking 'Take a screenshot',
there are a couple of icon overlays in the upper-right of the browser
pane, and clicking one of them allows to capture the full web page
including out-of-vision elements, all in one image file.
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I don't have a solution. I can only confirm
that the same happens if I
try to print to a PDF. And it's not the only page that presents these
non-printing elements. I try to save my bank and credit card
statements as PDFs in the same way, or confirmation pages of payments.
Since a year or so ago something changed and the only things that
print are headers and titles, whilst all the actual values are
missing. At first I thought it was my themeing and the amounts were
printing in white against a white background, but no, even trying to
make a selection or search the missing text within the file, it's
clear there's nothing there.
I also wondered if there is some page styling that explicitly allows
for non-printing, in the same way that some sites can prohibit certain
right-click actions. But I wouldn't have thought a website could
override the system and there's no reason these elements should be
hidden anyway, so it must be some kind of bug.
Your tip for using a screen grab could be handy. I'd have thought the
new built-in screenshot tool in the latest Firefox could do the job?
I didn't know about the screengrab option in FF so thanks for pointing
it out.
However, there is no way that I would use it as (from what I saw) it
requires that I have to create a 'Firefox account'.
I always use either Screengrab!, a FF Add-on, or Spectacle, which is
part of openSUSE.
I did use Screengrab to capture that article but the only sensible way
to do it with Screengrab would be to capture one page per 'grab' in
order to print one page of text without that "PC mag." header. I may
have to buy the mag. at the newsagency provided it is still available
for sale.
5 Aug
5 Aug
7:18 a.m.
On 04/08/18 22:14, gumb wrote:
On 04/08/18 09:17, Basil Chupin wrote:
I read that somewhere after you mentioned it and clicked to activate it.
On 31/07/18 18:48, gumb wrote:
I wasn't aware that the FF screenshot tool was linked to having an
account. I don't have a solution. I can only confirm
that the same happens if
I try to print to a PDF. And it's not the only page that presents
these non-printing elements. I try to save my bank and credit card
statements as PDFs in the same way, or confirmation pages of
payments. Since a year or so ago something changed and the only
things that print are headers and titles, whilst all the actual
values are missing. At first I thought it was my themeing and the
amounts were printing in white against a white background, but no,
even trying to make a selection or search the missing text within
the file, it's clear there's nothing there.
I also wondered if there is some page styling that explicitly allows
for non-printing, in the same way that some sites can prohibit
certain right-click actions. But I wouldn't have thought a website
could override the system and there's no reason these elements
should be hidden anyway, so it must be some kind of bug.
Your tip for using a screen grab could be handy. I'd have thought
the new built-in screenshot tool in the latest Firefox could do the
job?
I didn't know about the screengrab option in FF so thanks for
pointing it out.
However, there is no way that I would use it as (from what I saw) it
requires that I have to create a 'Firefox account'.
I always use either Screengrab!, a FF Add-on, or Spectacle, which is
part of openSUSE.
I did use Screengrab to capture that article but the only sensible
way to do it with Screengrab would be to capture one page per 'grab'
in order to print one page of text without that "PC mag." header. I
may have to buy the mag. at the newsagency provided it is still
available for sale. Although I found the other day that it doesn't
work on certain pop-up
windows, even though the option remains visible and not greyed out.
One thing I like about it is that after clicking 'Take a screenshot',
there are a couple of icon overlays in the upper-right of the browser
pane, and clicking one of them allows to capture the full web page
including out-of-vision elements, all in one image file.
Which is why I use the FF's Add-on 'Screengrab!' and have been for years.
And unlike that screegrab tool in FF itself, Screengrab! does not save
the 'grab' somewhere in The Cloud but saves it to a directory on your
system over which you have total control :-).
BC
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2:55 p.m.
On 05/08/18 08:18, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 04/08/18 22:14, gumb wrote:
Under the default FF ESR version in Leap 42.3 (currently 60.1.0) when
you use the built-in FF 'Take a screenshot', there is no cloud
interaction, it only provides a copy or download option, saying that's
the only choice in the ESR version. Same applies if you're in Private
Browsing mode, if 'Never Remember History' is checked, or if uploads are
disabled. It just goes straight into my Downloads folder.
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One thing I like about it is that after clicking
'Take a screenshot',
there are a couple of icon overlays in the upper-right of the browser
pane, and clicking one of them allows to capture the full web page
including out-of-vision elements, all in one image file.
Which is why I use the FF's Add-on 'Screengrab!' and have been for years.
And unlike that screegrab tool in FF itself, Screengrab! does not save
the 'grab' somewhere in The Cloud but saves it to a directory on your
system over which you have total control :-). 
31 Jul
31 Jul
10:31 a.m.
Basil Chupin composed on 2018-07-31 16:02 (UTC-1000):
Does anyone, please, have a solution to this problem?
If it's a recurring problem on an important site, it may justify the herculean
amount of work involved. Those fixed elements that hide things can be restyled
as hidden or elsewhere using the very CSS that causes the trouble in the first
place. Applying style "display: none !important" is sometimes all it takes,
other than figuring out what class(es) or id(s) to apply it to. Tools to figure
out which are included in modern browsers, but they're anything but easy to
figure out how to use.
One of the CSS modification extensions might help. I've not tried any of them.
xStyle and Stylus are two names I know of that aren't spyware (like Stylish).
First thing to try when really important is contact the host and beg for a print
stylesheet that limits printing to only page portions that justify the waste of
trees, preferably in person with some disastrous printed pages.
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On 2018-07-31 11:31, Felix Miata wrote:
One of the CSS modification extensions might help.
I've not tried any of them.
xStyle and Stylus are two names I know of that aren't spyware (like Stylish).
Sorry. I'm a little late to the party.
Whenever I encounter a web-page difficult to print (or if I just need to
get rid of a lot of stuff on it) I use The Printliminator. It's a
bookmarklet and/or an extension for opera and chrome. FF is said to be
in development.
https://css-tricks.github.io/The-Printliminator/
https://github.com/CSS-Tricks/The-Printliminator
The extension gets you a little bit further than the bookmarklet.
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11:17 a.m.
On 2018-07-31 06:24, Basil Chupin wrote:
I printed out this article-
https://au.pcmag.com/software/138/guide/the-best-vpn-services-of-2018
but the table at the beginning of the article won't print -- the
printing begins with the Heading then skips the table of the various
VPNs and continues from "VPNs Keep You Safe Online".
I had to use the Firefox Add-on 'Screengrab' to save that table to a
file and then printed that *.png file.
Any thoughts as to why that table will not print as part of that article
but has to be saved as a separate file in order to print it?
(Using Leap 15.0 [with kernel 4.17.11-3], Firefox v 60.0.1esr, and the
printer is Epson Expression Photo XP-960.)
It is probably intentionally by that page. Lousy programming.
In fact, when I go to that page a dialog displays in the top third of
the page, centred horizontally, blocking reading:
+++------------------
We tailor your experience and understand how you and other visitors use
this website by using cookies and other technologies. This means we are
able to keep this site free-of-charge to use.
Please click I Consent below to give us permission to do this and also
to show adverts tailored to your interests and allow our third party
partners to do the same.
More options [I consent]
------------------++-
No matter how many times I consent, it doesn't go away. I have to click
"more options", then close the subsequent window.
(and "more" also says that I'm using and add blocker that I should
remove. HA! It is set to "allow some advertising" or similar word. It
blocks 22 intrusive adds on that page.
The page is probably using a customized style for printing that is badly
made.
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5 Aug
5 Aug
6:11 a.m.
On 31/07/18 20:17, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-07-31 06:24, Basil Chupin wrote:
Hmm, I don't get that. I am using FF v61.0.1 which I installed manually,
but I don't think the ver. # matters. My Add-ons are shown in the
attached: ignore the first 3 and the last 'icons' and the rest are:
UBlock Origin
Privacy Badger
NoScript
Screengrab!
Multithreaded Download Manager
Video DownloadHelper
Advlock Plus
Lightbeam
Popup Blocker
Ghostery
I printed out this article-
https://au.pcmag.com/software/138/guide/the-best-vpn-services-of-2018
but the table at the beginning of the article won't print -- the
printing begins with the Heading then skips the table of the various
VPNs and continues from "VPNs Keep You Safe Online".
I had to use the Firefox Add-on 'Screengrab' to save that table to a
file and then printed that *.png file.
Any thoughts as to why that table will not print as part of that article
but has to be saved as a separate file in order to print it?
(Using Leap 15.0 [with kernel 4.17.11-3], Firefox v 60.0.1esr, and the
printer is Epson Expression Photo XP-960.)
It is probably intentionally by that
page. Lousy programming.
In fact, when I go to that page a dialog displays in the top third of
the page, centred horizontally, blocking reading:
+++------------------
We tailor your experience and understand how you and other visitors use
this website by using cookies and other technologies. This means we are
able to keep this site free-of-charge to use.
Please click I Consent below to give us permission to do this and also
to show adverts tailored to your interests and allow our third party
partners to do the same.
More options [I consent]
------------------++-
No matter how many times I consent, it doesn't go away. I have to click
"more options", then close the subsequent window.
(and "more" also says that I'm using and add blocker that I should
remove. HA! It is set to "allow some advertising" or similar word. It
blocks 22 intrusive adds on that page. The page is probably using a customized style for
printing that is badly
made.
Of the many websites I have visited in the past couple of years or so, I
have found only one (1) site which had no errors in the coding (I check
sites using 'http://validator.w3.org/'). Almost all sites are coded by
script-kiddies and who charge like wounded bulls for their work (I have
asked a few people with crap-coded sites how much they paid for the
"job"). One of the sites belongs to one of our biggest retail franchise
outlets in Australia (I actually corresponded personally with the
managing director re this but even after some 18 months or so the site
hasn't been amended [219 Errors and Warnings :-(].)
BC
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10:51 p.m.
On 31/07/18 12:24 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
I printed out this article-
https://au.pcmag.com/software/138/guide/the-best-vpn-services-of-2018
but the table at the beginning of the article won't print -- the printing begins
with the Heading then skips the table of the various VPNs and continues from
"VPNs Keep You Safe Online".
It print for me on a Brother HL-5170DN.
HOWEVER ... the ticks and crosses are very faint.
HOWEVER ... at 1200dpi, print background, print colour, print images ...
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On 01/08/18 07:51, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 31/07/18 12:24 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
Hmm, interesting, Anton. Which browser are you using, BTW?
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I printed out this article-
https://au.pcmag.com/software/138/guide/the-best-vpn-services-of-2018
but the table at the beginning of the article won't print -- the printing begins
with the Heading then skips the table of the various VPNs and continues from
"VPNs Keep You Safe Online".
It print for me on a Brother HL-5170DN.
HOWEVER ... the ticks and crosses are very faint.
HOWEVER ... at 1200dpi, print background, print colour, print images ... 
1 Aug
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4:16 a.m.
New subject: [opensuse] Re: Question re why part of a magazine article does not print
Basil Chupin wrote:
I printed out this article-
https://au.pcmag.com/software/138/guide/the-best-vpn-services-of-2018
but the table at the beginning of the article won't print -- the
printing begins with the Heading then skips the table of the various
VPNs and continues from "VPNs Keep You Safe Online".
----
Had same problem--- cuz table is too wide.
Flipped it to landscape and it printed the table
on the first page...
-l
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On 07/31/2018 11:16 PM, L A Walsh wrote:
Basil Chupin wrote:
If all else fails, use a screen capture program. That HAS TO work!
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I printed out this article-
https://au.pcmag.com/software/138/guide/the-best-vpn-services-of-2018
but the table at the beginning of the article won't print -- the
printing begins with the Heading then skips the table of the various
VPNs and continues from "VPNs Keep You Safe Online".
----
Had same problem--- cuz table is too wide.
Flipped it to landscape and it printed the table
on the first page...
-l
5 Aug
5 Aug
6:49 a.m.
New subject: [opensuse] Re: Question re why part of a magazine article does not print
On 02/08/18 04:11, Doug wrote:
On 07/31/2018 11:16 PM, L A Walsh wrote:
Weellll, kinda a broad statement in one way but, yes, a screen capture
program will work (and did).
One screen capture program which is MOST disappointing is the one in
Leap called _Spectacle_. Unlike 'Screengrab!., an Add-on in Firefox,
Spectacle will only capture a current screen (or a selected area). If an
article goes over more than one screen-full, Spectacle is useless but
Screengrab! will capture the complete article no matter how many pages
in may be in length. If Screengrab can do it why can't Spectacle do same?
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Basil Chupin wrote:
If all else fails, use a screen capture program. That HAS TO work! I printed out this article-
https://au.pcmag.com/software/138/guide/the-best-vpn-services-of-2018
but the table at the beginning of the article won't print -- the
printing begins with the Heading then skips the table of the various
VPNs and continues from "VPNs Keep You Safe Online".
----
Had same problem--- cuz table is too wide.
Flipped it to landscape and it printed the table
on the first page...
-l
7:55 a.m.
New subject: [opensuse] Re: Question re why part of a magazine article does not print
Le 05/08/2018 à 07:49, Basil Chupin a écrit :
in may be in length. If Screengrab can do it why
can't Spectacle do same?
because a *screen* capture do what is said, capture the screen. How can
it know what is there out? spectacle now nothing about Firefox
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New subject: [opensuse] Re: Question re why part of a magazine article does not print
On 05/08/18 16:55, jdd(a)dodin.org wrote:
Le 05/08/2018 à 07:49, Basil Chupin a écrit :
Now, I know nothing about how these things work but it seems to me that
a screengrab program must look for some marker which "tells" it where
the 'screen' to capture begins and where it ends. Right? Or put another
way, the program looks for the marker showing the beginning of a "file"
(SOF) and the end of file (EOF) and captures what is between the SOF and
the EOF.
To me, something tells Spectacle to consider the EOF to be the last
pixel of the displayed screen, while Screengrab! actually looks for the
EOF of, say, an article when one selects the 'Complete Page' option.
And to me, the description of what each of the "Capture Mode" (here:
https://docs.kde.org/stable5/en/kdegraphics/spectacle/using.html#idm4633620…
) means may just as well been been written in Aramaic :-).
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in may be in length. If Screengrab can do it why
can't Spectacle do
same?
because a *screen* capture do what is said, capture the screen. How
can it know what is there out? spectacle now nothing about Firefox
7:20 a.m.
New subject: [opensuse] Re: Question re why part of a magazine article does not print
Le 06/08/2018 à 07:31, Basil Chupin a écrit :
Now, I know nothing about how these things work but it
seems to me that
a screengrab program must look for some marker which "tells" it where
the 'screen' to capture begins and where it ends.
in fact, AFAIK,the screen capture utility works like any monitor, it
sees the content of the screen buffer, a memory region where all what
have to be displayed by any application is written. It's related to the
Xorg server, not any application
And to me, the description of what each of the
"Capture Mode" (here:
https://docs.kde.org/stable5/en/kdegraphics/spectacle/using.html#idm4633620…
) means may just as well been been written in Aramaic :-).
I challenge that. You are reading this list for so many years I feel you
are a friend :-)
Spectacle ask Xorg (or kde) where the screen (or windows) buffer is and
copy the content. It do not even know it's an image, it's just a bunch
of bytes :-). At a second time it write the content as png or jpg file
and the problem for browser/text copy is there: spectacle knows nothing
about text, so for example enlarging part or the image will give ugly
text, reading text meaning have to be done by text recognition package...
on the contrary, any Firefox plugin asks *firefox* for the data and so
knows if it's image, video, text, whatsoever...
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On Monday, 2018-08-06 at 15:31 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 05/08/18 16:55, jdd(a)dodin.org wrote:
No, Spectacle does not look for the end. It only sees what is displayed
in the display, nothing more. It simply reads the graphic card memory, or
the X representation of the same.
What is beyond the display is only known to each application. Spectacle
does not have permission to read each application own memory, even if it
knew how to interpret it.
Le 05/08/2018 à 07:49, Basil Chupin a écrit :
Now, I know nothing about how these things work but it seems to me that
a screengrab program must look for some marker which "tells" it where
the 'screen' to capture begins and where it ends. Right? Or put another
way, the program looks for the marker showing the beginning of a "file"
(SOF) and the end of file (EOF) and captures what is between the SOF and
the EOF.
To me, something tells Spectacle to consider the EOF to be the last
pixel of the displayed screen, while Screengrab! actually looks for the
EOF of, say, an article when one selects the 'Complete Page' option.
in may be in length. If Screengrab can do it why
can't Spectacle do
same?
because a *screen* capture do what is said, capture the screen. How
can it know what is there out? spectacle now nothing about Firefox And to me, the description of what each of the
"Capture Mode" (here:
https://docs.kde.org/stable5/en/kdegraphics/spectacle/using.html#idm4633620…
) means may just as well been been written in Aramaic :-).
The Full Screen (All Monitors)
The Current Screen
The Active Window
The Window Under Cursor
The Rectangular Region option allows you to select a rectangular region of
your desktop with your mouse
They seem pretty obvious to me :-? I don't even need to read the
descriptions.
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New subject: [opensuse] Re: Question re why part of a magazine article does not print
On 6/8/18 8:57 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On Monday, 2018-08-06 at 15:31 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:
I am trying hard to understand this, but surely the complete "page" is
stored in the gpu memory or the X representation of it, as you put it,
because the invisible part, which is not visible on the screen, is
instantly displayed when you either hit the 'down' key or use the scroll
wheel on the mouse?
On 05/08/18 16:55, jdd(a)dodin.org wrote:
No, Spectacle does not look for the end. It only sees what is
displayed in the display, nothing more. It simply reads the graphic
card memory, or the X representation of the same. Le 05/08/2018 à 07:49, Basil Chupin a écrit :
Now, I know nothing about how these things work but it seems to me that
a screengrab program must look for some marker which "tells" it where
the 'screen' to capture begins and where it ends. Right? Or put another
way, the program looks for the marker showing the beginning of a "file"
(SOF) and the end of file (EOF) and captures what is between the SOF and
the EOF.
To me, something tells Spectacle to consider the EOF to be the last
pixel of the displayed screen, while Screengrab! actually looks for the
EOF of, say, an article when one selects the 'Complete Page' option.
in may be in length. If Screengrab can do it why
can't Spectacle do
same?
because a *screen* capture do what is said, capture the screen. How
can it know what is there out? spectacle now nothing about Firefox What is beyond the display is only known to each
application.
Spectacle does not have permission to read each application own memory,
Then give it "permission" to do so.
even if it knew how to interpret it.
OK, then please tell me what each is supposed to mean -- apart from the
"The Current Screen" and "The Rectangular Region" which even I can
understand :-).
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And to me, the description of what each of the
"Capture Mode" (here:
https://docs.kde.org/stable5/en/kdegraphics/spectacle/using.html#idm4633620…
) means may just as well been been written in Aramaic :-).
The Full Screen (All Monitors)
The Current Screen
The Active Window
The Window Under Cursor
The Rectangular Region option allows you to select a rectangular
region of your desktop with your mouse
They seem pretty obvious to me :-? I don't even need to read the
descriptions.
8:34 a.m.
New subject: [opensuse] Re: Question re why part of a magazine article does not print
Le 11/08/2018 à 09:05, Basil Chupin a écrit :
Then give it "permission" to do so.
highly unsecure!
> The Full Screen (All Monitors)
all what is displayed anywhere
>
> The Current Screen
the screen where the mouse cursor is?
> The Active Window
the windows that have currently the focus (you clicked in it)
>
> The Window Under Cursor
you moved the cursor to the windows but didn't click
OK, then please tell me what each is supposed to mean
-- apart from the
"The Current Screen" and "The Rectangular Region" which even I can
understand :-).
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New subject: [opensuse] Re: Question re why part of a magazine article does not print
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On Saturday, 2018-08-11 at 17:05 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:
Can't. Huge security hole. Plus spectacle would have to be programmed to
know internals of every application that paints the screen. There would be
then a list of supported apps and not. And then supported versions and
sub-versions.
Huge programming job. Hundreds of people needed, for ages. Any
modification in any of the supported applications, and spectacle would
have to be re-compiled and possibly re-designed.
The current screen is exactly and only what is displayed by the
current monitor. Plain simple. I don't understand what you don't
understand :-?
If there are more monitors, then the Full Screen is all of them, joined.
As if a single huge monitor of the appropriate shape was used instead.
Active Window, the Thunderbird window frame where you are reading this.
You click on another window, that becomes the active window. If you move
the mouse to another window but don't click on it, that is the window
under cursor.
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Carlos E. R.
(from openSUSE 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
On 6/8/18 8:57 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Nope.
The application may have the invisible part of the page prepared or even
rendered, but the image memory doesn't know anything about that.
On Monday, 2018-08-06 at 15:31 +1000, Basil
Chupin wrote:
I am trying hard to understand this, but surely the complete "page" is stored
in the gpu memory or the X representation of it, as you put it, because the
invisible part, which is not visible on the screen, is instantly displayed
when you either hit the 'down' key or use the scroll wheel on the mouse? On 05/08/18 16:55, jdd(a)dodin.org wrote:
No, Spectacle does not look for the end. It only sees what is displayed in
the display, nothing more. It simply reads the graphic card memory, or the
X representation of the same. Le 05/08/2018 à 07:49, Basil Chupin a écrit :
> in may be in length. If Screengrab can do it why can't Spectacle do
> same?
>
because a *screen* capture do what is said, capture the screen. How
can it know what is there out? spectacle now nothing about Firefox
Now, I know nothing about how these things work but it seems to me that
a screengrab program must look for some marker which "tells" it where
the 'screen' to capture begins and where it ends. Right? Or put another
way, the program looks for the marker showing the beginning of a "file"
(SOF) and the end of file (EOF) and captures what is between the SOF and
the EOF.
To me, something tells Spectacle to consider the EOF to be the last
pixel of the displayed screen, while Screengrab! actually looks for the
EOF of, say, an article when one selects the 'Complete Page' option.
What is beyond the display is only known to each
application. Spectacle
does not have permission to read each application own memory,
Then give it "permission" to do so. even if it
knew how to interpret it.
OK, then please tell me what each is supposed to mean -- apart from the "The
Current Screen" and "The Rectangular Region" which even I can understand
:-). And to me, the description of what each of the
"Capture Mode" (here:
https://docs.kde.org/stable5/en/kdegraphics/spectacle/using.html#idm4633620…
) means may just as well been been written in Aramaic :-).
The Full Screen (All Monitors)
The Current Screen
The Active Window
The Window Under Cursor
The Rectangular Region option allows you to select a rectangular region of
your desktop with your mouse
They seem pretty obvious to me :-? I don't even need to read the
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New subject: [opensuse] Re: Question re why part of a magazine article does not print
On 07/31/2018 11:16 PM, L A Walsh wrote:
Basil Chupin wrote:
I took another look at this, and the text is corrupted by some kind of
"share" thing for what looks like symbols for facebook, twitter, and a
couple of things I don't recognize. And since I
won't ever use any of these "social" apps, I can't share with any of
them, and it makes the text difficult to read. If you subscribe to PC
Mag, you should write to them and complain!
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I printed out this article-
https://au.pcmag.com/software/138/guide/the-best-vpn-services-of-2018
but the table at the beginning of the article won't print -- the
printing begins with the Heading then skips the table of the various
VPNs and continues from "VPNs Keep You Safe Online".
----
Had same problem--- cuz table is too wide.
Flipped it to landscape and it printed the table
on the first page...
-l
7:38 p.m.
New subject: [opensuse] Re: Question re why part of a magazine article does not print
On 2018-08-01 20:30, Doug wrote:
On 07/31/2018 11:16 PM, L A Walsh wrote:
You can click on "toggle reader view", the text becomes easy to read,
but the table disappears.
Another "feature": print preview crashed the tab. A second time and it
fails to respond at all.
I typically use "preview" instead of printing directly, so that I can
change the zoom level if the page doesn't fit, and to know which pages
to print instead of all of them.
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Basil Chupin wrote:
I took another look at this, and the text is corrupted by some kind of
"share" thing for what looks like symbols for facebook, twitter, and a
couple of things I don't recognize. And since I
won't ever use any of these "social" apps, I can't share with any of
them, and it makes the text difficult to read. If you subscribe to PC
Mag, you should write to them and complain! I printed out this article-
https://au.pcmag.com/software/138/guide/the-best-vpn-services-of-2018
but the table at the beginning of the article won't print -- the
printing begins with the Heading then skips the table of the various
VPNs and continues from "VPNs Keep You Safe Online".
----
Had same problem--- cuz table is too wide.
Flipped it to landscape and it printed the table
on the first page...
-l
5 Aug
5 Aug
7:06 a.m.
New subject: [opensuse] Re: Question re why part of a magazine article does not print
On 02/08/18 04:38, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-08-01 20:30, Doug wrote:
Ce`?
You speak in riddles :-). What "tab" crashes?
Nothing "crashes" here, but then I don't know what you mean by
"tab".
On 07/31/2018 11:16 PM, L A Walsh wrote:
You can click on "toggle reader
view", the text becomes easy to read,
but the table disappears.
Another "feature": print preview crashed the tab. A second time and it
fails to respond at all. Basil Chupin wrote:
I took another look at this, and the text is corrupted by some kind of
"share" thing for what looks like symbols for facebook, twitter, and a
couple of things I don't recognize. And since I
won't ever use any of these "social" apps, I can't share with any of
them, and it makes the text difficult to read. If you subscribe to PC
Mag, you should write to them and complain! I printed out this article-
https://au.pcmag.com/software/138/guide/the-best-vpn-services-of-2018
but the table at the beginning of the article won't print -- the
printing begins with the Heading then skips the table of the various
VPNs and continues from "VPNs Keep You Safe Online".
----
Had same problem--- cuz table is too wide.
Flipped it to landscape and it printed the table
on the first page...
-l
I typically use "preview" instead of
printing directly, so that I can
change the zoom level if the page doesn't fit, and to know which pages
to print instead of all of them.
And thank you for sending me the LibreOffice copy of that article. I had
a quick look at the first page as it came up in LO but haven't looked
further (to see if the graphics on the later pages are there) nor
printed it.
BC
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1:14 p.m.
New subject: [opensuse] Re: Question re why part of a magazine article does not print
On 2018-08-05 08:06, Basil Chupin wrote:
Welcome :-)
Changing the size of the font in reader view is easier, though.
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On 02/08/18 04:38, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The firefox tab where the page was displayed. FF posted a notice
regretting that the tab had crashed (previously the entire FF would crash).
I clicked on File/print preview, and the page crashed. Made FF to crash
the tab.
On 2018-08-01 20:30, Doug wrote:
Ce`?
You speak in riddles :-). What "tab" crashes?
Nothing "crashes" here, but then I don't know what you mean by
"tab". On 07/31/2018 11:16 PM, L A Walsh wrote:
You can click on "toggle reader
view", the text becomes easy to read,
but the table disappears.
Another "feature": print preview crashed the tab. A second time and it
fails to respond at all. Basil Chupin wrote:
> I printed out this article-
>
> https://au.pcmag.com/software/138/guide/the-best-vpn-services-of-2018
>
> but the table at the beginning of the article won't print -- the
> printing begins with the Heading then skips the table of the various
> VPNs and continues from "VPNs Keep You Safe Online".
----
Had same problem--- cuz table is too wide.
Flipped it to landscape and it printed the table
on the first page...
-l
I took another look at this, and the text is corrupted by some kind of
"share" thing for what looks like symbols for facebook, twitter, and a
couple of things I don't recognize. And since I
won't ever use any of these "social" apps, I can't share with any of
them, and it makes the text difficult to read. If you subscribe to PC
Mag, you should write to them and complain! I typically
use "preview" instead of printing directly, so that I can
change the zoom level if the page doesn't fit, and to know which pages
to print instead of all of them.
And thank you for sending me the LibreOffice copy of that article. I had
a quick look at the first page as it came up in LO but haven't looked
further (to see if the graphics on the later pages are there) nor
printed it.
6 Aug
6 Aug
6:41 a.m.
New subject: [opensuse] Re: Question re why part of a magazine article does not print
On 05/08/18 22:14, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-08-05 08:06, Basil Chupin wrote:
Hmm, I think I understand what your are saying but I don't have, and
never had, this problem: nothing 'crashes' here (and I am now even using
FF v62.0beta).
On 02/08/18 04:38, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The firefox tab where the page was displayed. FF posted a notice
regretting that the tab had crashed (previously the entire FF would crash).
I clicked on File/print preview, and the page crashed. Made FF to crash
the tab. On 2018-08-01 20:30, Doug wrote:
Ce`?
You speak in riddles :-). What "tab" crashes?
Nothing "crashes" here, but then I don't know what you mean by
"tab". On 07/31/2018 11:16 PM, L A Walsh wrote:
> Basil Chupin wrote:
>> I printed out this article-
>>
>> https://au.pcmag.com/software/138/guide/the-best-vpn-services-of-2018
>>
>> but the table at the beginning of the article won't print -- the
>> printing begins with the Heading then skips the table of the various
>> VPNs and continues from "VPNs Keep You Safe Online".
> ----
> Had same problem--- cuz table is too wide.
> Flipped it to landscape and it printed the table
> on the first page...
> -l
>
I took another look at this, and the text is corrupted by some kind of
"share" thing for what looks like symbols for facebook, twitter, and a
couple of things I don't recognize. And since I
won't ever use any of these "social" apps, I can't share with any of
them, and it makes the text difficult to read. If you subscribe to PC
Mag, you should write to them and complain!
You can click on "toggle reader
view", the text becomes easy to read,
but the table disappears.
Another "feature": print preview crashed the tab. A second time and it
fails to respond at all. I typically use "preview" instead of
printing directly, so that I can
Welcome :-)
Changing the size of the font in reader view is easier, though.
Yes, so I discovered when I looked closer at those 'widgets' in the
narrow column on the l-h side :-).
BC
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change
the zoom level if the page doesn't fit, and to know which pages
to print instead of all of them.
And thank you for sending me the LibreOffice copy of that article. I had
a quick look at the first page as it came up in LO but haven't looked
further (to see if the graphics on the later pages are there) nor
printed it.
12:06 p.m.
New subject: [opensuse] Re: Question re why part of a magazine article does not print
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On Monday, 2018-08-06 at 15:41 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:
Hmm, I think I understand what your are saying but I don't have, and
never had, this problem: nothing 'crashes' here (and I am now even using
FF v62.0beta).
It is a new feature. Previously the entire FF could crash. Now it calls
child processes, and a child can crash instead, not bringing the entire
thing down.
So now a single tab (or more) can crash and be replaced with a text saying
something about the crash and they are sorry.
- --
Cheers,
Carlos E. R.
(from openSUSE 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
On 05/08/18 22:14, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2018-08-05 08:06, Basil Chupin wrote:
>> On 02/08/18 04:38, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>> On 2018-08-01 20:30, Doug wrote:
>>>> On 07/31/2018 11:16 PM, L A Walsh wrote:
>>>>> Basil Chupin wrote:
You speak in riddles :-). What "tab"
crashes?
Nothing "crashes" here, but then I don't know what you mean by
"tab".
The firefox tab where the page was displayed. FF posted a notice
regretting that the tab had crashed (previously the entire FF would crash).
I clicked on File/print preview, and the page crashed. Made FF to crash
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8:07 a.m.
New subject: [opensuse] Re: Question re why part of a magazine article does not print
On 6/8/18 9:06 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On Monday, 2018-08-06 at 15:41 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:
Hmm, I think I understand what your are saying but I don't have, and
never had, this problem: nothing 'crashes' here (and I am now even using
FF v62.0beta).
It is a new feature. Previously the entire FF could crash. Now it
calls child processes, and a child can crash instead, not bringing the
entire thing down.
So now a single tab (or more) can crash and be replaced with a text
saying something about the crash and they are sorry.
Ah, OK, now understand :-).
BC
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On 05/08/18 22:14, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2018-08-05 08:06, Basil Chupin wrote:
>> On 02/08/18 04:38, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>> On 2018-08-01 20:30, Doug wrote:
>>>> On 07/31/2018 11:16 PM, L A Walsh wrote:
>>>>> Basil Chupin wrote:
You speak in riddles :-). What "tab"
crashes?
Nothing "crashes" here, but then I don't know what you mean by
"tab".
The firefox tab where the page was displayed. FF posted a notice
regretting that the tab had crashed (previously the entire FF would
crash).
I clicked on File/print preview, and the page crashed. Made FF to crash
the tab.
1 Aug
1 Aug
7:49 p.m.
New subject: [opensuse] Re: Question re why part of a magazine article does not print
Le 01/08/2018 à 20:30, Doug a écrit :
On 07/31/2018 11:16 PM, L A Walsh wrote:
> Basil Chupin wrote:
>> I printed out this article-
>>
>> https://au.pcmag.com/software/138/guide/the-best-vpn-services-of-2018
>>
>> but the table at the beginning of the article won't print -- the
in fact, I read in some part of this thread somebody speaking about
portrait/lanscape and tested landscape to pdf and it printed the table
wonderfully
https://www.cjoint.com/doc/18_08/HHbsWXLNmEh_mozilla2.pdf
jdd
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6:58 a.m.
New subject: [opensuse] Re: Question re why part of a magazine article does not print
On 02/08/18 04:30, Doug wrote:
On 07/31/2018 11:16 PM, L A Walsh wrote:
Thanks, Doug. Writing to such organisations such as PC mag. et al is a
waste of time. Of what value would it be to write to an organisation
which produces a magazine concerning computers but has at least 49
coding Errors and Warnings, including one FATAL ERROR after which the
check of the coding terminates and cannot proceed?
As you would have read by now, the cat has been skinned following what
jdd wrote :-), and I thank you for your help with my (now non-existent)
problem.
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Basil Chupin wrote:
I took another look at this, and the text is corrupted by some kind of
"share" thing for what looks like symbols for facebook, twitter, and a
couple of things I don't recognize. And since I
won't ever use any of these "social" apps, I can't share with any of
them, and it makes the text difficult to read. If you subscribe to PC
Mag, you should write to them and complain! I printed out this article-
https://au.pcmag.com/software/138/guide/the-best-vpn-services-of-2018
but the table at the beginning of the article won't print -- the
printing begins with the Heading then skips the table of the various
VPNs and continues from "VPNs Keep You Safe Online".
----
Had same problem--- cuz table is too wide.
Flipped it to landscape and it printed the table
on the first page...
-l
6:41 a.m.
New subject: [opensuse] Re: Question re why part of a magazine article does not print
On 01/08/18 13:16, L A Walsh wrote:
Basil Chupin wrote:
Yep, thanks, Linda, did that and it does the trick.
But even better is to capture the Table/graphic as a *.png file and
print the file thus avoiding the Header of the article.
By now you would have read what jdd wrote which solved the problem --
which was quite fortuitous because I found a follow-up article giving
instructions on how to actually install/set-up the s/ware for a VPN
service
(https://au.pcmag.com/nordvpn/52130/feature/how-to-set-up-and-use-a-vpn).
BC
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I printed out this article-
https://au.pcmag.com/software/138/guide/the-best-vpn-services-of-2018
but the table at the beginning of the article won't print -- the
printing begins with the Heading then skips the table of the various
VPNs and continues from "VPNs Keep You Safe Online".
----
Had same problem--- cuz table is too wide.
Flipped it to landscape and it printed the table
on the first page...
-l
17 Aug
17 Aug
8:04 a.m.
New subject: [opensuse] Question re why part of a magazine article does not print -- NEW INFO.
On 31/07/18 14:24, Basil Chupin wrote:
I printed out this article-
https://au.pcmag.com/software/138/guide/the-best-vpn-services-of-2018
but the table at the beginning of the article won't print -- the
printing begins with the Heading then skips the table of the various
VPNs and continues from "VPNs Keep You Safe Online".
I had to use the Firefox Add-on 'Screengrab' to save that table to a
file and then printed that *.png file.
Any thoughts as to why that table will not print as part of that
article but has to be saved as a separate file in order to print it?
(Using Leap 15.0 [with kernel 4.17.11-3], Firefox v 60.0.1esr, and the
printer is Epson Expression Photo XP-960.)
I know that this problem of mine has been resolved but you may be
interested to know that there is an Add-on for Firefox which appears to
"work" on all web pages and not just on certain pages as the built-in
page editor in Firefox Quantum (60.1.0esr now in Leap 15.0).
Many Thanks to Linda Walsh who mentioned to me that there is the Add-on
called PRINT EDIT WE. I have installed it and it "works" on sites such as-
https://www.globalresearch.ca/
on which the built-in editor in FF Quantum is ineffective.
FYI.
BC
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