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I do have the SuSE default X login installed on one of my SuSE boxes, so if there is a X based irc client that would be easier for a newbie I can definitely give it a try.

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Dunno if it's part of the default X install (I doubt it) but XChat is certainly on the CDs.

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It'll be version 1.8.x in 8.0, version 2.0.0 for 8.1 is available at www.usr-local-bin.org, but that won't work with your 8.0 install. It was 8.0 you were using, yeah? -- James Ogley, Webmaster, Rubber Turnip james@rubberturnip.org.uk Thanks,

I installed 1.8.7 from the CDs. Greg