Hello, I just finshed putting together a new PC with an on board IDE Raid controller by AMI (American Megatrends Inc.). After much searching I found a set of beta drivers for RedHat Linux 7.0 with instruction for installing. My questions are: 1. Will the Redhat instruction apply to Suse installation? 2. Since I have Suse 7.1 is this going to be a problem? 3. Should I succeed in installing the drivers, once the released version of the drivers is out, can I install them without loosing the data on my HD drives? 4. Does anyone have an alternative or better solution for this? Or any experience with the same problem? Thanks in advance for all your help! Babu __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/
On Friday 24 August 2001 6:22 pm, babu walad wrote:
I just finshed putting together a new PC with an on board IDE Raid controller by AMI (American Megatrends Inc.).
After much searching I found a set of beta drivers for RedHat Linux 7.0 with instruction for installing.
My questions are:
1. Will the Redhat instruction apply to Suse installation? 2. Since I have Suse 7.1 is this going to be a problem? 3. Should I succeed in installing the drivers, once the released version of the drivers is out, can I install them without loosing the data on my HD drives? 4. Does anyone have an alternative or better solution for this? Or any experience with the same problem?
1. Don't know; a little more information about your hardware (i.e. mainboard and AMI (CMD?) RAID chip would be useful. Are the beta drivers already compiled or are sources available? 2. You may want to upgrade to kernel 2.4 since this has support for IDE RAID. 3. Always backup your data; don't take risks (been there done that). 4. Do you really need RAID? Have a look at recent posts on Highpoint RAID controllers (http//:www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Suse-Linux/292/0/) to see what's involved! M
Hi Martin,
I am using an Iwill KA266-R motherboard. It has the
AMI IDE Raid controller on the motherboard. As a test
I was able to load and configure the RAID with win2k
(for now) and it works great (the RAID stuff). This is
an AMD Athlon board with DDR memory.
The beta drivers are precompiled and distributed as
two images: boot.img and post.img files. The docs
with the drivers say to start Redhad install with the
boot.img in the floppy drive and Linux on the CD-rom
drive. Once one hits the select language dialog, one
is to hit some combination of CNTL and Fx keys to get
to a dialog where one specifies the RAID disk which
appears as a SCSI device. After going through the rest
of the install, the post.img in loaded/executed to
complete the setup.
I can find and post the entire instructions if it
makes
sense to do so. They are not too long.
Well, I do want to get the RAID up and running if at
all possible.
Right now, I have not installed Suse Linux on my PC
yet.
Thanks again!
Babu
--- Martin Webster
I just finshed putting together a new PC with an on board IDE Raid controller by AMI (American Megatrends Inc.).
After much searching I found a set of beta drivers for RedHat Linux 7.0 with instruction for installing.
My questions are:
1. Will the Redhat instruction apply to Suse installation? 2. Since I have Suse 7.1 is this going to be a problem? 3. Should I succeed in installing the drivers, once the released version of the drivers is out, can I install them without loosing the data on my HD drives? 4. Does anyone have an alternative or better solution for this? Or any experience with the same
On Friday 24 August 2001 6:22 pm, babu walad wrote: problem?
1. Don't know; a little more information about your hardware (i.e. mainboard and AMI (CMD?) RAID chip would be useful. Are the beta drivers already compiled or are sources available?
2. You may want to upgrade to kernel 2.4 since this has support for IDE RAID.
3. Always backup your data; don't take risks (been there done that).
4. Do you really need RAID?
Have a look at recent posts on Highpoint RAID controllers
(http//:www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Suse-Linux/292/0/)
to see what's involved!
M
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On Friday 24 August 2001 9:18 pm, babu walad wrote:
Hi Martin,
I am using an Iwill KA266-R motherboard. It has the AMI IDE Raid controller on the motherboard. As a test I was able to load and configure the RAID with win2k (for now) and it works great (the RAID stuff). This is an AMD Athlon board with DDR memory.
The beta drivers are precompiled and distributed as two images: boot.img and post.img files. The docs with the drivers say to start Redhad install with the boot.img in the floppy drive and Linux on the CD-rom drive. Once one hits the select language dialog, one is to hit some combination of CNTL and Fx keys to get to a dialog where one specifies the RAID disk which appears as a SCSI device. After going through the rest of the install, the post.img in loaded/executed to complete the setup.
I can find and post the entire instructions if it makes sense to do so. They are not too long.
Well, I do want to get the RAID up and running if at all possible.
Right now, I have not installed Suse Linux on my PC yet.
It seems that the only kernel patches for your board (particularly the AMI 80649 chipset) are available pre-compiled from Iwill. As you have already stated, these support RedHat 6.1/6.2 and kernel 2.2.16. If you want RAID and Linux you will have to opt for RedHat. Alternatively, install SuSE without using the onboard RAID controller and wait and see if the hardware is eventually supported. You could also e-mail Iwill and tell them what you think about closed source patches! M
Hi Martin,
I pretty much agree with your recommendations.
I did some further snooping on the AMI web pages and
found they have a similar driver and patch for Redhat
7.0 and I also found a driver patch and instructions
(I am inserting them below) to patch Linux. Is there
any way to tell if this will work with Suse Linux 7.0
or 7.1 short of just trying it?
Any feedback is appreciated.
Babu
===========================================
4 Installing MegaRAID IDE on an Existing Installation
Installing MegaRAID IDE on an Existing Installation
If you have RedHat installed on your system and want
to add additional storage, these are the steps that
you should follow.
� Upgrade the Linux Kernel to provide support for
MegaRAID IDE
� Install MegaRAID IDE drive(s)
� Install the monitoring software
How to Upgrade the Kernel
The standard RedHat 7.0 installation installs kernel
2.2.16-22. RedHat kernel 2.2.16-22 does not come with
support for the CMD chip on the MegaRAID IDE Card. The
kernel must be updated.. You can obtain the update
kernel from one of the following website:
ftp://www.ami.com/ide-raid/RedHat7.0/Release/Kernel/
The name of the file to download is
linux-2.2.16-22-MegaIDEtgz.
To upgrade the kernel, follow the steps below:
Step 1 Log on to your system as a super user and go to
the /usr/src directory. Find a soft link called
"Linux" and remove it by using "rm Linux". Once the
soft link is removed, copy the new kernel to this
directory. Extract the file using "tar -zxvf
linux-2.2.16-22MegaIDE.tgz". The file should be
extracted under a directory called Linux. Rename this
directory to linux-2.2.16-22-MegaIDE with the command
"mv linux 2.2.16-22-MegaIDE.tgz". Create a softlink
call linux to this directory.
"ln -s
linux-2.2.16-22MegaIDE linux"
Cont'd
How to Upgrade the Kernel, Continued
Step 2 In the directory /usr/src/linux run the
command "make menuconfig". Under block devices make
sure the following options are selected:
<*>CMD640 chipset bugfix/support
<*>CMD640 enhanced support
<*>Generic PCI bus-master DMA support
<*>CMD64X chipset support
Exit menuconfig saving the configuration. Run the
following commands:
"make clean"
"make depend"
"make bzImage"
"make modules"
"make modules_install"
"cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage
/boot/2.2.16"
Step 3 The final steps involves editing the file
lilo.conf. This file can be found in the directory
/etc. Open the file using the vi editor with the
following command "vi /etc/lilo.conf" and add the
following lines to the file:
image =/boot/2.2.16
label =2.2.16
read-only
root=/dev/hda5
The line root=/dev/hda5 will not be correct if you are
booting from a different partition. Look for a
previous entry in the file for the correct partition.
root=/dev/hda?
Exit and save lilo.conf.
Run the command "lilo -v"
Reboot.
At the boot prompt hit the tab key. This should give
you the option to boot to the new kernel.
Installing MegaRAID IDE Driver
Download the zipped driver file for RedHat 7.0 from
the American Megatrends' ftp site
(ftp://ftp.megatrends.com/ide-raid/ ). It contains the
following files:
� MegaIDE.o
� MAKEDEV
Create a directory called
/usr/src/linux/drivers/block/MegaIDE and copy the
above files to it.
Run the following command:
"./MAKEDEV"
To load Ideraidconf driver run the command:
"insmod MegaIDE.o"
To unload the driver run the command:
"rmmod MegaIDE"
Note: The driver will not load unless you have
created a RAID.
=========================================
--- Martin Webster
Hi Martin,
I am using an Iwill KA266-R motherboard. It has
AMI IDE Raid controller on the motherboard. As a test I was able to load and configure the RAID with win2k (for now) and it works great (the RAID stuff). This is an AMD Athlon board with DDR memory.
The beta drivers are precompiled and distributed as two images: boot.img and post.img files. The docs with the drivers say to start Redhad install with
On Friday 24 August 2001 9:18 pm, babu walad wrote: the the
boot.img in the floppy drive and Linux on the CD-rom drive. Once one hits the select language dialog, one is to hit some combination of CNTL and Fx keys to get to a dialog where one specifies the RAID disk which appears as a SCSI device. After going through the rest of the install, the post.img in loaded/executed to complete the setup.
I can find and post the entire instructions if it makes sense to do so. They are not too long.
Well, I do want to get the RAID up and running if at all possible.
Right now, I have not installed Suse Linux on my PC yet.
It seems that the only kernel patches for your board (particularly the AMI 80649 chipset) are available pre-compiled from Iwill. As you have already stated, these support RedHat 6.1/6.2 and kernel 2.2.16.
If you want RAID and Linux you will have to opt for RedHat. Alternatively, install SuSE without using the onboard RAID controller and wait and see if the hardware is eventually supported. You could also e-mail Iwill and tell them what you think about closed source patches!
M
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On Wednesday 29 August 2001 4:32 am, babu walad wrote:
I pretty much agree with your recommendations. I did some further snooping on the AMI web pages and found they have a similar driver and patch for Redhat 7.0 and I also found a driver patch and instructions (I am inserting them below) to patch Linux. Is there any way to tell if this will work with Suse Linux 7.0 or 7.1 short of just trying it?
You mentioned the AMI MegaRAID (a PCI card). If your mainboard uses the same chipset then I do see why you can't use the AMI MegaRAID driver which is part of the stock 2.2.x and 2.4.x kernels. Have a look here: http://domsch.com/linux/ (near bottom of page) http://lists.us.dell.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-megaraid-devel (Yes Dell use this chipset) http://lists.us.dell.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-megaraid-announce M
On Wednesday 29 August 2001 7:52 pm, Martin Webster wrote:
On Wednesday 29 August 2001 4:32 am, babu walad wrote:
I pretty much agree with your recommendations. I did some further snooping on the AMI web pages and found they have a similar driver and patch for Redhat 7.0 and I also found a driver patch and instructions (I am inserting them below) to patch Linux. Is there any way to tell if this will work with Suse Linux 7.0 or 7.1 short of just trying it?
You mentioned the AMI MegaRAID (a PCI card). If your mainboard uses the same chipset then I do see why you can't use the AMI MegaRAID driver which is part of the stock 2.2.x and 2.4.x kernels.
Have a look here:
http://domsch.com/linux/ (near bottom of page) http://lists.us.dell.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-megaraid-devel (Yes Dell use this chipset) http://lists.us.dell.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-megaraid-announce
M
Sorry, a typo that changed emphasis: "then I do see why" should read "then I don't see why". M
Martin,
Actually, my IDE MEgaRAID is not a separate PCI card
but actually build into the mobo. However, I think
it is the same chipset and the same drivers from AMI
should work in either case.
I have seen instructions on installing these with
RH Linux, but I am still unclear on the correct
sequence of operations to configure the built in
MegaRAID drivers in the Suse 2.2.x and 2.4.x kernel
releases. I already have the mobo BIOS configured for
the RAID drive, I just need to have this relayed to
Linux so I can install. Any ideas there? I've checked
the links you sent below and they are great, but I
could not find the installation instructions I was
hoping for.
Thanks again!
Babu
--- Martin Webster
On Wednesday 29 August 2001 4:32 am, babu walad wrote:
I pretty much agree with your recommendations. I did some further snooping on the AMI web pages and found they have a similar driver and patch for Redhat 7.0 and I also found a driver patch and instructions (I am inserting them below) to patch Linux. Is
On Wednesday 29 August 2001 7:52 pm, Martin Webster wrote: there
any way to tell if this will work with Suse Linux 7.0 or 7.1 short of just trying it?
You mentioned the AMI MegaRAID (a PCI card). If your mainboard uses the same chipset then I do see why you can't use the AMI MegaRAID driver which is part of the stock 2.2.x and 2.4.x kernels.
Have a look here:
http://domsch.com/linux/ (near bottom of page)
http://lists.us.dell.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-megaraid-devel
(Yes Dell
use this chipset)
http://lists.us.dell.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-megaraid-announce
M
Sorry, a typo that changed emphasis: "then I do see why" should read "then I don't see why".
M
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On Friday 31 August 2001 7:05 pm, babu walad wrote:
Martin,
Actually, my IDE MEgaRAID is not a separate PCI card but actually build into the mobo. However, I think it is the same chipset and the same drivers from AMI should work in either case.
I have seen instructions on installing these with RH Linux, but I am still unclear on the correct sequence of operations to configure the built in MegaRAID drivers in the Suse 2.2.x and 2.4.x kernel releases. I already have the mobo BIOS configured for the RAID drive, I just need to have this relayed to Linux so I can install. Any ideas there? I've checked the links you sent below and they are great, but I could not find the installation instructions I was hoping for.
I am making the assumption that there is no difference if the controller is on the mainboard or a separate PCI card; Linux will find the device. The device *is* supported in kernel 2.4 (possibly later 2.2.x) so SuSE should identify it and load the appropriate module when you install. I don't believe that you have to recompile the kernel to get RAID support. It's possible that you will have to specify the kernel module (hardware driver) when you start the install (linuxrc). M
Martin,
With a machine with only a RAID configured array, if
I am running Yast2, how do I get the installer to ask
me to provide the AMI raid drivers? I think I can get
the compiled drivers, but what is the method to load
them with no linux currently running?
Babu
--- Martin Webster
On Friday 31 August 2001 7:05 pm, babu walad wrote:
Martin,
Actually, my IDE MEgaRAID is not a separate PCI card but actually build into the mobo. However, I think it is the same chipset and the same drivers from AMI should work in either case.
I have seen instructions on installing these with RH Linux, but I am still unclear on the correct sequence of operations to configure the built in MegaRAID drivers in the Suse 2.2.x and 2.4.x kernel releases. I already have the mobo BIOS configured for the RAID drive, I just need to have this relayed to Linux so I can install. Any ideas there? I've checked the links you sent below and they are great, but I could not find the installation instructions I was hoping for.
I am making the assumption that there is no difference if the controller is on the mainboard or a separate PCI card; Linux will find the device. The device *is* supported in kernel 2.4 (possibly later 2.2.x) so SuSE should identify it and load the appropriate module when you install. I don't believe that you have to recompile the kernel to get RAID support. It's possible that you will have to specify the kernel module (hardware driver) when you start the install (linuxrc).
M
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babu walad wrote:
Martin,
With a machine with only a RAID configured array, if I am running Yast2, how do I get the installer to ask me to provide the AMI raid drivers? I think I can get the compiled drivers, but what is the method to load them with no linux currently running?
Babu
--- Martin Webster
wrote: <snip>
This should be automatic and be treated like any other SCSI card during the install. How Linux will see it depends upon the array, for example Raid 1 you will see only 1 drive. Have you tried the installer? You can go through this and see if it even sees the drives. You should not need to do anything more, unless you have an old BIOS revision and newer device drivers. Matt
On Tuesday 04 September 2001 7:07 pm, StarTux wrote:
babu walad wrote:
With a machine with only a RAID configured array, if I am running Yast2, how do I get the installer to ask me to provide the AMI raid drivers? I think I can get the compiled drivers, but what is the method to load them with no linux currently running?
This should be automatic and be treated like any other SCSI card during the install. How Linux will see it depends upon the array, for example Raid 1 you will see only 1 drive.
Have you tried the installer? You can go through this and see if it even sees the drives. You should not need to do anything more, unless you have an old BIOS revision and newer device drivers.
That's right, you should be able to boot from the first CD-ROM. YaST2 should detect the RAID controller and tell you what drive(s) are available. M
Hello,
When I run Yast2 I think I see a message saying it
finds a RAID controller on my system but it lists the
RAID drives as individual drives and not as a single
RAID logical device.
Also, I have another problem in that since Win200 is
installed on the RAID drives, when I run the Yast2
installer it tells me there are NO other Os's on my
machine and I cannot seem to get to multiple boot
mode. What is the best way to fix this?
Thanks,
Babu
--- Martin Webster
babu walad wrote:
With a machine with only a RAID configured array, if I am running Yast2, how do I get the installer to ask me to provide the AMI raid drivers? I think I can get the compiled drivers, but what is the method to load them with no linux currently running?
This should be automatic and be treated like any other SCSI card during the install. How Linux will see it depends upon
Raid 1 you will see only 1 drive.
Have you tried the installer? You can go through
On Tuesday 04 September 2001 7:07 pm, StarTux wrote: the array, for example this and see if it even
sees the drives. You should not need to do anything more, unless you have an old BIOS revision and newer device drivers.
That's right, you should be able to boot from the first CD-ROM. YaST2 should detect the RAID controller and tell you what drive(s) are available.
M
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Hello,
I am back to working on my IDE RAID issue (along with
half a dozen other problems...).
When I install Suse 7.1 it sees all the drives in the
RAID configuration as separate disks and it displays
the correct size for each disk.
Looks like I need to update the motherboard BIOS
and/or
manually install and configure the RAID driver.
Does that make sense?
Babu
--- StarTux
babu walad wrote:
Martin,
With a machine with only a RAID configured array, if I am running Yast2, how do I get the installer to ask me to provide the AMI raid drivers? I think I can get the compiled drivers, but what is the method to load them with no linux currently running?
Babu
--- Martin Webster
wrote: <snip>
This should be automatic and be treated like any other SCSI card during the install. How Linux will see it depends upon the array, for example Raid 1 you will see only 1 drive.
Have you tried the installer? You can go through this and see if it even sees the drives. You should not need to do anything more, unless you have an old BIOS revision and newer device drivers.
Matt
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