[opensuse] klipper - How to select without changing remembered selection?
Listmates, I don't know if this is possible currently, but if it isn't, it should be. One of the areas where kde is light-years ahead is with the copy/paste convenience provided by the dual clipboard/selection buffers that klipper offers. However many, many times I have selected something that I will want to paste only to find I have to select something else to clear a text-box like the google search box or firefox address bar. This requires that you either click into the text-box hit 'end' and 'backspace' over all the existing text you need to clear (PITA with very long URLs) or I just resolve to select/delete/reselect/paste -- wasted effort. Yes I know I could actually 'copy' the information to the clipboard buffer and that the next selection into the 'selection' buffer does not alter the copy buffer (I do that when I know a select/delete is needed), but I'm talking about all the times you select something for a quick paste only to then find out another select/delete will be needed after you shuffle through the open windows to get where you needed to paste the information. There should be a way to ctrl+select or meta+select that would allow you to select what you need to delete without disturbing the text in the selection buffer. Does something like that already exist? If not, can somebody think of a way to set that up in kde or X in general? This is something that a really smart kde developer could seize upon and slip into the next kde update and have added a feature that goes down in convenience/efficiency history ;-) I'll open a feature request if it doesn't already exist. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 20 October 2009 06:53:06 David C. Rankin wrote:
I don't know if this is possible currently, but if it isn't, it should be. One of the areas where kde is light-years ahead is with the copy/paste convenience provided by the dual clipboard/selection buffers that klipper offers. However many, many times I have selected something that I will want to paste only to find I have to select something else to clear a text-box like the google search box or firefox address bar. This requires that you either click into the text-box hit 'end' and 'backspace' over all the existing text you need to clear (PITA with very long URLs) or I just resolve to select/delete/reselect/paste -- wasted effort.
Yes I know I could actually 'copy' the information to the clipboard buffer and that the next selection into the 'selection' buffer does not alter the copy buffer (I do that when I know a select/delete is needed), but I'm talking about all the times you select something for a quick paste only to then find out another select/delete will be needed after you shuffle through the open windows to get where you needed to paste the information.
Put another way - How to delete the existing line edit contents while preserving the selection buffer? What you suggest is one way around this problem. I feel (unsurprisingly) that the most elegant solution is what KLineEdit, KComboBox etc have - add a clear text button to the widget. It's discoverable and doesn't require switching from mouse to keyboard. As a fallback for Firefox, etc, I just do what I guess Windows users habitually do - Copy (in any of a number of ways) the url to 'clipboard', alt- d OR double click the text to replace and ctrl-v. If you select 'sync selection and clipboard' in Klipper you have the convenience of drag-to-select with this method. Your proposed 'meta-select + backspace to delete while preserving selection then click to paste' would a similar amount of combined mousing and keyboard tricks, and different to 'doze. PS - there are Firefox extensions that add a clear location bar button to the toolbar. 'Neo Diggler' (untried, untested) seems to be one. Will -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 22 October 2009 10:31:25 Will Stephenson wrote:
PS - there are Firefox extensions that add a clear location bar button to the toolbar. 'Neo Diggler' (untried, untested) seems to be one.
For firefox, you can just paste the selection anywhere in the window (not in an edit box :) and it will be interpreted by firefox as an address, you don't actually need to paste it into the URL bar Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Thursday 22 October 2009 10:31:25 Will Stephenson wrote:
PS - there are Firefox extensions that add a clear location bar button to the toolbar. 'Neo Diggler' (untried, untested) seems to be one.
For firefox, you can just paste the selection anywhere in the window (not in an edit box :) and it will be interpreted by firefox as an address, you don't actually need to paste it into the URL bar
Anders
How do you paste into a window? I've tried a couple of ways and it doesn't seem to work. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 22 October 2009 15:50:14 James Knott wrote:
How do you paste into a window? I've tried a couple of ways and it doesn't seem to work.
with the normal X paste, simply middle-click the mouse anywhere in the firefox window Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Thursday 22 October 2009 15:50:14 James Knott wrote:
How do you paste into a window? I've tried a couple of ways and it doesn't seem to work.
with the normal X paste, simply middle-click the mouse anywhere in the firefox window
Anders
Neat trick. That also works in Seamonkey and Konqueror. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 22 October 2009 04:02:55 am Anders Johansson wrote:
On Thursday 22 October 2009 10:31:25 Will Stephenson wrote:
PS - there are Firefox extensions that add a clear location bar button to the toolbar. 'Neo Diggler' (untried, untested) seems to be one.
For firefox, you can just paste the selection anywhere in the window (not in an edit box :) and it will be interpreted by firefox as an address, you don't actually need to paste it into the URL bar
Anders
That is incredible. I had glazed over the paste address/drag picture/etc.. changes in 3X versions. Humbling to find what you need already under your nose. Thanks Anders. (No wonder mozilla doesn't have a clear button.....) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 22 October 2009 03:31:25 am Will Stephenson wrote:
Yes I know I could actually 'copy' the information to the clipboard buffer and that the next selection into the 'selection' buffer does not alter the copy buffer (I do that when I know a select/delete is needed), but I'm talking about all the times you select something for a quick paste only to then find out another select/delete will be needed after you shuffle through the open windows to get where you needed to paste the information.
Put another way - How to delete the existing line edit contents while preserving the selection buffer?
What you suggest is one way around this problem. I feel (unsurprisingly) that the most elegant solution is what KLineEdit, KComboBox etc have - add a clear text button to the widget. It's discoverable and doesn't require switching from mouse to keyboard.
As a fallback for Firefox, etc, I just do what I guess Windows users habitually do - Copy (in any of a number of ways) the url to 'clipboard', alt- d OR double click the text to replace and ctrl-v. If you select 'sync selection and clipboard' in Klipper you have the convenience of drag-to-select with this method.
Your proposed 'meta-select + backspace to delete while preserving selection then click to paste' would a similar amount of combined mousing and keyboard tricks, and different to 'doze.
PS - there are Firefox extensions that add a clear location bar button to the toolbar. 'Neo Diggler' (untried, untested) seems to be one.
Will
Neo Diggler, if it does what you say, will be worth it's weight in gold... Off to the mozilla site -- Thanks! P.S. My normal work around for copy/paste/recopy... is just to start an instance of kwrite each day and I use it for a scratch pad/note taker. Then at the end of the day I just save my scratch pads under ~/notes/np-20091025.txt. Kills a couple of birds and leaves me with a date ordered set of notes that can then go where ever they need to. (file, timesheet, calendar, etc.. at then end of the day) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 22 October 2009 03:31:25 am Will Stephenson wrote:
PS - there are Firefox extensions that add a clear location bar button to the toolbar. 'Neo Diggler' (untried, untested) seems to be one.
Will
...back from mozilla.org with Neo Diggler. Will "you da MAN!" Works like a champ. It, among other things, add the familiar sideways black X> button for clearing the contents to the left of the address line. Thanks for the lead! -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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