On 25/06/18 17:37, Liam Proven wrote:

A complete reinstall _might_ work but I am not sure that Windows _can_ run off a USB-attached drive.

I did a little more research. It can but it's tricky. This is a feature of Enterprise editions of Windows, and even then, it requires special USB media. It is called Windows To Go. There is a significant list of limitations. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/planning/windows-to-go-o... However, there is a 3rd party tool that can install ordinary Windows in this scenario. https://www.pcworld.com/article/3185777/windows/how-to-install-windows-on-an... It's called Win2USB. https://www.easyuefi.com/wintousb/ -- Liam Proven - Technical Writer, SUSE Linux s.r.o. Corso II, Křižíkova 148/34, 186-00 Praha 8 - Karlín, Czechia Email: lproven@suse.com - Office telephone: +420 284 241 084 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 2018-06-25 17:29, Felix Miata wrote:

Carlos E. R. composed on 2018-06-25 13:16 (UTC+0200):

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Ideas?

I would never expect Windows to adapt to being moved to a different bus type (USB from SATA). What I think would stand a chance is eSATA, if a laptop has such a port, if that port is driven by the same I/O chip (same ATA bus) as the internal storage.

I've become spoiled by Linux, things are so easy... Forgot a driver on the moved disk to boot? Mount it, chroot, add whatever by command line. No eSATA on this thing. One USB3, 2*USB2. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

On 2018-06-25 23:15, David C. Rankin wrote:

On 06/25/2018 06:16 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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It is not that important to boot Windows, but as I have it, it would be nice to have double boot. There is one setting that I apparently can only adjust on Windows, the battery charge limit.

Ideas?

Windows (and it's system partition) must be the first thing on the *primary drive*. I doubt you will ever be able to boot directly from a USB (without quite a bit of fancy boot magic and trickery).

That's what I hopped, that somebody knows the magic. People that only use Windows will never put Linux in the mix and even less as main system, so they will not know. That's why I asked here and not "there".

I dual-boot W10 and Leap by virtue of having 2 SSD in the laptop so Win10 remains the primary and I just tap the bios and tell it to boot from HD2 to boot leap (with 5 hours added to the sysclock in between)

If you don't find a solution, then make sure you shuffle the W10 drive back in at least once a month (about mid-month) to make sure you keep it current.

No, I either boot windows on that usb enclosure, or never. I'm not going to shuffle the disks back and forth, too much stress for the laptop. I have the main laptop that doubles boot (single disk), and a virtual machine with W10. That's enough. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith))

On 6/25/2018 7:57 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

David C. Rankin composed on 2018-06-25 16:15 (UTC-0500):

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Windows (and it's system partition) must be the first thing

IME this has never been true. Until very roughly 10 years years ago, I never put Windows on sda1. The only reason I switched to using sda1 for it is that any other primary is a larger size in sectors than a nominally identical logical. When it's on sda1, it can be cloned to an identical size logical as a simple backup.

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on the *primary drive*. Win10 here gets only 400MB at the front of sda for its boot files. Its system and data partitions go on logicals, following the most important Linux and/or DOS partitions.

Well then -- I have more testing to do. (I don't dabble with windows too much, though I did boot it for this thread). If the System Partition (the 400M or so) is the only thing required up-front with Win10, then Carlos has a chance. Now booting through the USB is something I'm just flat ignorant about. I've never tried and other than virtualizing OS's, I have, and probably always will, keep my OS's on the primary or secondary drives. The reason for that is that to establish and boot from the USB, the controller must make the drive available as part of the boot process. Maybe you can include an initrd hook to insure a particular USB device is present before continuing the boot -- but that is a lot different than plugging a USB in after the system and USB controller is fully up and have the drive show us as /dev/sdc, etc.. Maybe somebody on the list is already doing something like that. Now you have me interested in how it could work... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Le 26/06/2018 à 11:19, Carlos E. R. a écrit :

On 2018-06-26 09:29, David C. Rankin wrote:

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Maybe somebody on the list is already doing something like that. Now you have me interested in how it could work...

I found two links.

https://windowsreport.com/windows-10-external-drive/

How to move Windows 10 to an external hard drive

They simply use Clonezilla installed on an auxiliary flash disk (booted with TuxBoot) to clone the existing internal disk with Windows to an external hard disk, nothing extra. But my case is different: I physically moved the disk.

but may be clonezilla can still "move" it to a third disk (if available) I see clonezilla say it can move windows, but never tried it. I long time ago moved windows from his partition to an other one with linux without problem, but on an other internal disk jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 2018-06-26 02:57, Felix Miata wrote:

David C. Rankin composed on 2018-06-25 16:15 (UTC-0500):

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Windows (and it's system partition) must be the first thing

IME this has never been true. Until very roughly 10 years years ago, I never put Windows on sda1. The only reason I switched to using sda1 for it is that any other primary is a larger size in sectors than a nominally identical logical. When it's on sda1, it can be cloned to an identical size logical as a simple backup.

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on the *primary drive*. Win10 here gets only 400MB at the front of sda for its boot files. Its system and data partitions go on logicals, following the most important Linux and/or DOS partitions.

In my case sdb1 is EFI, sdb2 is the Windows boot partition, 16 megs, and sdb3 is the main windows partition. This was made by the manufacturer, but on sda, of course. I suspect that sdb2 has hardcoded that Windows is in sda3. I have to explore the Win2USB that Liam suggested. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)