[opensuse] Ancient laptop display goes black and does not recover (i845 graphics)
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El 31/08/13 14:21, Carlos E. R. escribió:
In X I might be able to configure out DPMS. But text mode? I've never heard how to configure that in text mode. :-?
try booting with i915.powersave=0 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2013-08-31 20:30, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
El 31/08/13 14:21, Carlos E. R. escribió:
In X I might be able to configure out DPMS. But text mode? I've never heard how to configure that in text mode. :-?
try booting with i915.powersave=0
Ok, I'll write that down and try it later, machine is busy downloading. Thanks. i915? But video is i845, will that work? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar)
El 31/08/13 14:37, Carlos E. R. escribió:
On 2013-08-31 20:30, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
El 31/08/13 14:21, Carlos E. R. escribió:
In X I might be able to configure out DPMS. But text mode? I've never heard how to configure that in text mode. :-?
try booting with i915.powersave=0
Ok, I'll write that down and try it later, machine is busy downloading. Thanks.
i915? But video is i845, will that work?
In your problem description, hwinfo said kernel driver "i915" modalias pci:v00008086d00002562sv*sd*bc03sc*i* also matches with your device pci:v00008086d00002562sv00001584sd00009000bc03sc00i00. I can only draw conclusions based on the provided information. ;-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2013-08-31 20:37 (GMT+0200) Carlos E. R. composed:
Cristian RodrÃguez wrote:
Carlos E. R. composed:
In X I might be able to configure out DPMS. But text mode? I've never heard how to configure that in text mode. :-?
try booting with i915.powersave=0
i915? But video is i845, will that work?
I expect so. I wouldn't be surprised if most workarounds for i915 troubles are necessitated at least in part by the derelict 845G. If it doesn't, try what I do by default (nice to know whether it works or not): In ~/.bashrc setterm -blank 59 -store Somewhere in /etc/xorg.co* I also do: Option "DPS" "off" Then again, I'm not a laptop user, except for one infrequently used antique with r128. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-08-31 21:02, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2013-08-31 20:37 (GMT+0200) Carlos E. R. composed:
Cristian RodrÃguez wrote:
i915? But video is i845, will that work?
I expect so. I wouldn't be surprised if most workarounds for i915 troubles are necessitated at least in part by the derelict 845G.
I'll try on next reboot.
If it doesn't, try what I do by default (nice to know whether it works or not):
In ~/.bashrc
setterm -blank 59 -store
Ah, that was the setting for text mode. I had forgotten that command. The manual says that APM is used if available. I tried "setterm -blank poke", no go. The thing is, I certainly prefer the display to be off, since this machine I handle via ssh and leave it running to download big things, with main computer off. Display off saves some power on the ancient power supply, and spares the probably old fluorescent tubes that light it up. But the thing does not recover! :-(
Somewhere in /etc/xorg.co* I also do:
Option "DPS" "off"
Yes, that one I knew. It should be DPMS, though.
Then again, I'm not a laptop user, except for one infrequently used antique with r128.
- -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlIiWhcACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XO7wCdEFGNzwPpd2idSgV6cmPMZEK/ 528An0arDbNaYiS/E3YLOAuAI7QghMhS =YHr2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2013-08-31 20:53, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
El 31/08/13 14:37, Carlos E. R. escribió:
i915? But video is i845, will that work?
In your problem description, hwinfo said kernel driver "i915" modalias pci:v00008086d00002562sv*sd*bc03sc*i* also matches with your device pci:v00008086d00002562sv00001584sd00009000bc03sc00i00.
I can only draw conclusions based on the provided information. ;-)
I did not notice that "detail" :-) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar)
On 2013-08-31 23:03 (GMT+0200) Carlos E. R. composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
In ~/.bashrc
setterm -blank 59 -store
Ah, that was the setting for text mode. I had forgotten that command.
I don't get much chance to "forget". One of first things I do on fresh install or user creation is save the initial one, then copy a .bashrc template that includes it to $HOME.
The manual says that APM is used if available. I tried "setterm -blank poke", no go.
The thing is, I certainly prefer the display to be off...
But the thing does not recover! :-(
With any luck, simply using setterm may be a workaround for the failure to recover. s/59/1/ may be enough, while still saving power by blanking quickly. You should only need to log in on an unused vtty rather than rebooting to find out if it helps.
Somewhere in /etc/xorg.co* I also do:
Option "DPS" "off"
Yes, that one I knew. It should be DPMS, though.
Typos happen when typing instead of copy & paste. :-p -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Saturday, 2013-08-31 at 14:30 -0400, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
In X I might be able to configure out DPMS. But text mode? I've never heard how to configure that in text mode. :-?
try booting with i915.powersave=0
Kernel crashes on boot, after the line about "doing fast boot". -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar)
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, 2013-08-31 at 18:48 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2013-08-31 23:03 (GMT+0200) Carlos E. R. composed:
Ah, that was the setting for text mode. I had forgotten that command.
I don't get much chance to "forget". One of first things I do on fresh install or user creation is save the initial one, then copy a .bashrc template that includes it to $HOME.
The manual says that APM is used if available. I tried "setterm -blank poke", no go.
The thing is, I certainly prefer the display to be off...
But the thing does not recover! :-(
With any luck, simply using setterm may be a workaround for the failure to recover. s/59/1/ may be enough, while still saving power by blanking quickly. You should only need to log in on an unused vtty rather than rebooting to find out if it helps.
Blanking alone does not save power unless the backligth is also powered off. I created "/etc/profile.local" with this content: setterm -blank 10 -store setterm -powerdown 0 echo "Terminal setterm done." Besides that, I turn the brightness down with the laptop function keys. Will see if it does not block again. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlIigLcACgkQtTMYHG2NR9W9JACgjUfaw7/bohhTwcxbyLv/HktM QSEAoJfK7/uR5oeL/sEapFfsUBnowqFS =b+2L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
El 31/08/13 19:43, Carlos E. R. escribió:
On Saturday, 2013-08-31 at 14:30 -0400, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
In X I might be able to configure out DPMS. But text mode? I've never heard how to configure that in text mode. :-?
try booting with i915.powersave=0
Kernel crashes on boot, after the line about "doing fast boot".
huh.. that needs to be fixed :-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, 2013-09-01 at 01:48 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Saturday, 2013-08-31 at 18:48 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2013-08-31 23:03 (GMT+0200) Carlos E. R. composed:
I created "/etc/profile.local" with this content:
setterm -blank 10 -store setterm -powerdown 0 echo "Terminal setterm done."
That code runs, but it is useless. Display went blank, and when I noticed and pressed a key, doesn't respond. I mean, it does not light up, the thing is working via ssh correctly. :-( I'll add "setterm -powersave off, setterm -blank 0 -store", but I don't have much hope. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlIiixkACgkQtTMYHG2NR9Xi+wCfZV77LKW1uxocP/4mjtAdyAQL H4oAoIHLvhMuC+yj4Q/fk5suFe0HCJLs =hJYd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, 2013-08-31 at 20:14 -0400, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
El 31/08/13 19:43, Carlos E. R. escribió:
Kernel crashes on boot, after the line about "doing fast boot".
huh.. that needs to be fixed :-)
As I understand, the i845 is buggy as a coackroaches nest :-/ I have no log to prove the fault, nothing to study. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlIii3AACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XI+gCfbSGUVxdBusYvl2NstmOJFmfr n04AoJFarfR2JK+ESSRGC/WVYt5kAhgX =eBLf -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, 2013-08-31 at 14:30 -0400, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
El 31/08/13 14:21, Carlos E. R. escribió:
In X I might be able to configure out DPMS. But text mode? I've never heard how to configure that in text mode. :-?
try booting with i915.powersave=0
Is this documented somewhere? I can't find it under "/usr/src/linux/Documentation". :-? - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlIilB8ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9V72wCdE1k1MmHceXztAwe4P2oCoRVJ NhwAn3rGGUsAOkNBC1eJffUkmJK9aBWd =ye0V -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On 2013-09-01 01:43 (GMT+0200) Carlos E. R. composed:
try booting with i915.powersave=0
Kernel crashes on boot, after the line about "doing fast boot".
No crash here on Dell desktop with i845G (rev01) booting 12.3 with kernel-desktop-3.7.10-1.1. Full cmdline: root=LABEL=suse123 ipv6.disable=1 noresume splash=verbose CPUFREQ=off video=1152x864@60 vga=794 3 i915.powersave=0 -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
El 31/08/13 21:10, Carlos E. R. escribió:
On Saturday, 2013-08-31 at 14:30 -0400, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
El 31/08/13 14:21, Carlos E. R. escribió:
In X I might be able to configure out DPMS. But text mode? I've never heard how to configure that in text mode. :-?
try booting with i915.powersave=0
Is this documented somewhere? I can't find it under "/usr/src/linux/Documentation". :-?
Should be.. but apparently it is not ;) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, 2013-08-31 at 21:27 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
try booting with i915.powersave=0
Kernel crashes on boot, after the line about "doing fast boot".
No crash here on Dell desktop with i845G (rev01) booting 12.3 with kernel-desktop-3.7.10-1.1. Full cmdline: root=LABEL=suse123 ipv6.disable=1 noresume splash=verbose CPUFREQ=off video=1152x864@60 vga=794 3 i915.powersave=0
Go figure... I'll try again. By the way, this: Section "Monitor" #CER - monitor dies if DPMS activates. Identifier "Default Monitor" Option "DPMS" "off" EndSection fails too. I wrote it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-monitor.conf - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlIjL3YACgkQtTMYHG2NR9USlQCdF1TgUa81fPA4N4CxP9Bs9uLH 6zsAmgO3waoE9j2Bv7deEUWR3fq2b6XF =80ud -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, 2013-09-01 at 14:13 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
No crash here on Dell desktop with i845G (rev01) booting 12.3 with kernel-desktop-3.7.10-1.1. Full cmdline: root=LABEL=suse123 ipv6.disable=1 noresume splash=verbose CPUFREQ=off video=1152x864@60 vga=794 3 i915.powersave=0
Go figure... I'll try again.
And now it does not crash! Weird. I'll wait to see what happens to the display. [...] No crash, and it works: my display doesn't go to sleep. Success! Success of a kind... I actually would prefer the display to go to sleep, the problem is that it never awakes :-/ I found another problem. Yesterday night, before leaving for bed, I closed the lid for a minute while I moved the unit. Well, it suspended, which I was unaware of till this morning: 2013-09-01T03:42:34.597312+02:00 AmonLanc systemd-logind[784]: Lid closed. 2013-09-01T03:42:34.597358+02:00 AmonLanc systemd-logind[784]: Suspending... 2013-09-01T03:42:34.722216+02:00 AmonLanc systemd[1]: Starting Sleep. 2013-09-01T03:42:34.724089+02:00 AmonLanc systemd[1]: Reached target Sleep. 2013-09-01T03:42:34.724985+02:00 AmonLanc systemd[1]: Starting Suspend... 2013-09-01T03:42:34.879733+02:00 AmonLanc systemd-sleep[6070]: Suspending system... 2013-09-01T03:42:35.974326+02:00 AmonLanc kernel: [ 7170.184246] pcmcia_socket pcmcia_socket0: pccard: card ejected from slot 0 2013-09-01T03:42:36.140912+02:00 AmonLanc network[6124]: redirecting to "systemctl --signal=9 kill network.service" 2013-09-01 13:15:10+02:00 - Booting the system now ================================================================================ Linux AmonLanc.valinor 3.7.10-1.16-default #1 SMP Fri May 31 20:21:23 UTC 2013 (97c14ba) i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux 2013-09-01T13:15:11.002955+02:00 AmonLanc rsyslogd: [origin software="rsyslogd" swVersion="7.2.7" x-pid="815" x-info="http://www.rsyslog.com"] start I found out this morning when it did not respond to pings. Of course, the display was dead, and it did not respond. But it was very hot! The fan was blowing full time, the CPU was HOT. What kind of 'suspend' is that, with the CPU warmer than when running normally! The laptop sits with the bottom cover removed, on top of a blower unit plugged to a mains-usb power converter, so cooling is as appropriate as can be. I'm trying to avoid suspend with a inhibit script in /etc/pm/sleep.d/. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlIjPpEACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VJPQCfSPHzKrpU9WP3jg5NDsTZw09J VTMAn3WnL8e9KdtHOzm8960LznRCuK4o =eGxr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, 2013-08-31 at 14:30 -0400, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
El 31/08/13 14:21, Carlos E. R. escribió:
In X I might be able to configure out DPMS. But text mode? I've never heard how to configure that in text mode. :-?
try booting with i915.powersave=0
It works, but the effect dies with hibernation. On restore, the display dies after... dunno, more than one hour. Sigh... - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlIoPQ8ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XqngCfbnX45xFcTKfMsp0EQgD2NERG J/gAn1wI13Fszy4440rISjg780JditFA =ac3S -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
El 05/09/13 04:12, Carlos E. R. escribió:
On Saturday, 2013-08-31 at 14:30 -0400, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
El 31/08/13 14:21, Carlos E. R. escribió:
In X I might be able to configure out DPMS. But text mode? I've never heard how to configure that in text mode. :-?
try booting with i915.powersave=0
It works, but the effect dies with hibernation. On restore, the display dies after... dunno, more than one hour.
Huh, that's a bug, the "powersave" status has to be restored on resume... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2013-09-05 at 12:10 -0400, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
try booting with i915.powersave=0
It works, but the effect dies with hibernation. On restore, the display dies after... dunno, more than one hour.
Huh, that's a bug, the "powersave" status has to be restored on resume...
I guess that the entire handling of that particular video chip is buggy. Either the chip, the driver, or both. And maybe even the display itself. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlIqVeEACgkQtTMYHG2NR9W+OACfdEBFXwhkq0KLQmhAfwe35Rdf FRcAn1kxk0IYp+88NHgUn2MPEbRSu3z4 =30ix -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, 2013-09-07 at 00:23 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Thursday, 2013-09-05 at 12:10 -0400, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
try booting with i915.powersave=0
It works, but the effect dies with hibernation. On restore, the display dies after... dunno, more than one hour.
Huh, that's a bug, the "powersave" status has to be restored on resume...
I guess that the entire handling of that particular video chip is buggy. Either the chip, the driver, or both. And maybe even the display itself.
I rebooted the machine, and after some hours I noticed the display did not respond. I confirm via ssh in syslog that the kernel line is correct: 2013-09-07T16:41:14.816102+02:00 AmonLanc kernel: [ 0.000000] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.7.10-1.16-default root=UUID=c538c7a3-97ea-4eae-91fc-fdfea0fc1aca resume=/dev/disk/by-label/Swap showopts splash=verbose loglevel=3 console=tty1 vga=791 i915.powersave=0 So, it does not make effect, or not always. It is a nuisance, but mostly I'm handling that laptop remotely, via ssh, so it is not a big-big deal. Maybe if I need the display one day I'll try placing a dead weight in the shift key, after boot ;-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlIsacUACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WUKQCfTvVBqWXCJp2+EpwgVBQMe/zZ ECgAnj3tnW8h0THnhEKpdPn7Erfzr20+ =xpVa -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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