[opensuse] RFC & RFH: openSUSE CDB?
Hi, for Linux, hardware compatibility was ever and still is an issue. At SUSE we have the CDB, see http://cdb.suse.de to address this. It collects data of available hardware and tries to judge about the Linux support. The problem with that is that we do not have all available hardware and even if we had we were not able to test it completely. However the CDB not only acts as information source for users but also as an data source for the configuration tool databases like sax2 and yast and has a direct impact on the distribution quality as a result. Now that we are heading to an open and community driven development with openSUSE I am happy that we are able to contribute the entire CDB to the openSUSE project. The contribution consists of PHP webapp code and the database full of data ;-) I am confident that we as a community are able to provide a very actual and complete hardware compatibility list with a real high quality to our users. First ideas about how this project can go forward: First, let's discuss how we can achieve a high quality and complete list of hardware. I hope that the people who already worked on the cool Hardware Compatibility List in openSUSE (http://en.opensuse.org/Hardware) step in here and give as much input as possible and possibly help :-) Topics in that discussion may be: How do we ensure the quality of the data we collect from the users, is the CDB a good idea in general, are there other, non SUSE related projects that already do what we want where we want to participate, etc etc. Second, lets see if we can/want to recycle code from the former SUSE CDB and change it to do what we agreed on. Finally - implement a bit and launch :-)) The SUSE Inttools Team is helping with coding and administration if required but we would love to see an external maintainer who is acting responsible for the openSUSE CDB. So please speak up with comments and ideas and raise your hand if you want to code :-) regards, Klaas -- Klaas Freitag Novell - SUSE R&D - Internal Tools --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-help@opensuse.org
hi :) El Jueves, 13 de Julio de 2006 10:39, Klaas Freitag escribió:
Hi,
for Linux, hardware compatibility was ever and still is an issue. At SUSE we have the CDB, see http://cdb.suse.de to address this. It collects data of available hardware and tries to judge about the Linux support.
The problem with that is that we do not have all available hardware and even if we had we were not able to test it completely. However the CDB not only acts as information source for users but also as an data source for the configuration tool databases like sax2 and yast and has a direct impact on the distribution quality as a result.
Now that we are heading to an open and community driven development with openSUSE I am happy that we are able to contribute the entire CDB to the openSUSE project. The contribution consists of PHP webapp code and the database full of data ;-)
Cool !!! :)
I am confident that we as a community are able to provide a very actual and complete hardware compatibility list with a real high quality to our users.
First ideas about how this project can go forward:
First, let's discuss how we can achieve a high quality and complete list of hardware. I hope that the people who already worked on the cool Hardware Compatibility List in openSUSE (http://en.opensuse.org/Hardware) step in here and give as much input as possible and possibly help :-)
Topics in that discussion may be: How do we ensure the quality of the data we collect from the users, is the CDB a good idea in general, are there other, non SUSE related projects that already do what we want where we want to participate, etc etc.
Well I guess that some hardware vendors could offer a hw compatibility list ;) Yes, I know there's a Novell HW certified web page. So that info could be copied over to the CDB. Linux Laptos is a "portal" where users list their laptops and compatibility (issues) they've found with XXX linux distro. They explain installations, configurations, ... with their laptops. It's another possibility. Regarding the question "Are there other HW compatibility lists". Quite a few: - Phoronix just announced one the other day - Linux Printing - Linux Laptops - a couple other I can't remember (I'll have to dig through my bookmarks)
Second, lets see if we can/want to recycle code from the former SUSE CDB and change it to do what we agreed on.
Finally - implement a bit and launch :-))
The SUSE Inttools Team is helping with coding and administration if required but we would love to see an external maintainer who is acting responsible for the openSUSE CDB.
So please speak up with comments and ideas and raise your hand if you want to code :-)
regards,
Klaas
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On Thu, 2006-07-13 at 10:39 +0200, Klaas Freitag wrote:
Hi,
for Linux, hardware compatibility was ever and still is an issue. At SUSE we have the CDB, see http://cdb.suse.de to address this. It collects data of available hardware and tries to judge about the Linux support.
The problem with that is that we do not have all available hardware and even if we had we were not able to test it completely. However the CDB not only acts as information source for users but also as an data source for the configuration tool databases like sax2 and yast and has a direct impact on the distribution quality as a result.
Now that we are heading to an open and community driven development with openSUSE I am happy that we are able to contribute the entire CDB to the openSUSE project. The contribution consists of PHP webapp code and the database full of data ;-) I am confident that we as a community are able to provide a very actual and complete hardware compatibility list with a real high quality to our users.
First ideas about how this project can go forward:
First, let's discuss how we can achieve a high quality and complete list of hardware. I hope that the people who already worked on the cool Hardware Compatibility List in openSUSE (http://en.opensuse.org/Hardware) step in here and give as much input as possible and possibly help :-)
Topics in that discussion may be: How do we ensure the quality of the data we collect from the users, is the CDB a good idea in general, are there other, non SUSE related projects that already do what we want where we want to participate, etc etc.
Second, lets see if we can/want to recycle code from the former SUSE CDB and change it to do what we agreed on.
Finally - implement a bit and launch :-))
The SUSE Inttools Team is helping with coding and administration if required but we would love to see an external maintainer who is acting responsible for the openSUSE CDB.
So please speak up with comments and ideas and raise your hand if you want to code :-)
regards,
Klaas
Since openSUSE cannot afford to test all available hardware lets have a page for user input (monitored to disallow rants) so that a wider range of hardware can be checked for. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-help@opensuse.org
Klaas Freitag wrote:
First, let's discuss how we can achieve a high quality and complete list of hardware.
we should have a script that could collect hardware info (but probably less than the two actual ones, that seems a bit too intrusive for wide use). This script could ask the user for some (very small) list of info: * how many weeks of use of the system * kind of use (server, office desktop, scientific, personal, games...) * as anonymous as possible ideally this should be a javascript (making it possible to use when browsing the page) of course this is usefull if fully integrated with the data base. may be a flag to know is the user is unknown (really anonymous), Novell subcriber, experienced user (for eample member of this mailing list-this could be automated), of Novell paid.
So please speak up with comments and ideas and raise your hand if you want to code :-)
I don't, not a coder :-( jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-help@opensuse.org
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