On Wednesday 28 February 2007 08:06, Dave Howorth wrote:

JB wrote:

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Hiya gang,

SuSE 9.3 is the only OS I have on my system. I have two hdd's though.

I (unfortunately) need to install W98 on the second (blank/empty spare) hdd.

If I open the case and remove the main hdd from the cabling, so that if the system's restarted all the bios will see is one hdd, the 'spare', and install the W98 on that, then once it's all done hook my main hdd back up and start the system, will I be able to just go into YaST and have it find the new OS and add it to fstab?

Is there an easier way than the above?

Run zmud in wine? http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=513&sRating=Silver

Tried that. The newest version doesn't run in WINE, and the old, free version doesn't handle a lot of the scripting stuff.

Run win98 under vmware?

Can't afford it, and others I've talked to who have tried it say it's awful slow and in a fight in game, slow gets one killed (yeah, I know, my dial-up doesn't help me any either, heh). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

I am lazy. Too lazy to configure grub. I have 3 hdd's in this box: WinXP, Suse9.1 and Suse 10.2 The arrangement is "temporary", meaning that I might decide to change it tomorrow or maybe not for a year. If I want to boot to either Suse9.1 or WinXP, I simply re-boot the puter and with very few keystrokes tell the BIOS which drive is "auto" instead of "none" and viola! up it comes in that system. If I went thru the effort of configuring grub it would be an affirmation that the arrangement is no longer "temporary". So, I guess not only lazy but mental as well. Fred ps - have tried vmware, parallels and wine for various Windows apps and vmware is king with parallels running second. Parallels price is right but it's functionality is not all there yet. Results with wine are mixed, at best. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Wednesday 28 February 2007 08:58, Stevens wrote:

I am lazy. Too lazy to configure grub.

I have 3 hdd's in this box: WinXP, Suse9.1 and Suse 10.2

The arrangement is "temporary", meaning that I might decide to change it tomorrow or maybe not for a year. If I want to boot to either Suse9.1 or WinXP, I simply re-boot the puter and with very few keystrokes tell the BIOS which drive is "auto" instead of "none" and viola! up it comes in that system.

Looks like that might be the best/easiest thing to do. Thanks for reminding me about it. It's so rare that I reboot and it's been *years* since I did anything with the bios, heh heh. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Wednesday 28 February 2007 19:40, Doug McGarrett wrote:

On Wednesday 28 February 2007 08:36, JB wrote:

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Hiya gang,

SuSE 9.3 is the only OS I have on my system. I have two hdd's though.

I (unfortunately) need to install W98 on the second (blank/empty spare) hdd.

If I open the case and remove the main hdd from the cabling, so that if the system's restarted all the bios will see is one hdd, the 'spare', and install the W98 on that, then once it's all done hook my main hdd back up and start the system, will I be able to just go into YaST and have it find the new OS and add it to fstab?

Is there an easier way than the above?

Thanks for any suggestions.

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You'll have to reset the drive to be Master, or you won't be able to access it. This is done on all the drives I've seen, by changing little jumper blocks. Then, after you install 98 (why not XP, it runs a lot better, unless you have really limited CPU and memory--it's about as solid as Linux!)

Yes, the jumper on the back of the hdd itself. I'd have forgotten about that too since it's been so long, heh. Thanks. eXPee is too eXPensive, and I've had the W98 disk since, well, '98.

then you will have to reset the drive to Slave, and put the main drive back in, and teach Grub or LILO about the new OS. It might be a little more complicated than that--I had XP as the main OS and SuSE 10.0 as the OS on the second drive, and when I had trouble with the second drive, and tried to boot off the "C drive" it wouldn't--some of Grub was on the second drive, which was not accessible. I think this is a bug, but I don't know. Anyway, this is the basic protocol.

What has me worried most is, right now hdb (the spare hdd) is a blank (though FAT formatted) drive. I'm worried if I do this and GRUB pukes on me, I'll have that 'kstartconfig' error I got a few months ago that wasn't very easy to fix except for the help of a couple guys on this list who saved the day. I think I'll do the simplest thing as another suggested and just do a couple things with the BIOS whenever I need to boot into windoze. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thursday 01 March 2007 01:41, frank nelson wrote:

--- JB wrote:

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I think I'll do the simplest thing as another suggested and just do a couple things with the BIOS whenever I need to boot into windoze.

Time to start over. You have not told us how much memory you have in your box. Win98 can't see more than 768 MB. If you have more than that, Win98 will report "Not enough memory" which just means it's totally confused.

Only 512MB, so should be okay.

Next, if the memory is OK, you should be able to install Win98 directly to the second drive, jumpered as it is. If you worry about the SUSE drive, the most you need to do is unplug the 4 pin Molex, which will make the SUSE drive invisible to the system. Then just insert the Win98 CD, and do a normal installation.

After the Win98 installation is complete, and you've checked it's ability to boot, turn off the computer, and re-plug the Molex on the SUSE drive. When you boot, you'll get the grub boot screen with SUSE as the only boot choice. Boot to SUSE, and as root, add the following to /boot/grub/menu.lst. You can copy/paste it from here.

title Windows 98 rootnoverify (hd1,0) map (hd1) (hd0) map (hd0) (hd1) makeactive chainloader +1

Save the file, and reboot. Your grub menu will now give you a choice between SUSE and Win98. Select windows, and it will boot, without having to mess about in your BIOS.

Now *this* sounds easier even than doing the bios thing. Thanks Frank! I'll let everyone know how it turns out. JB -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org