Hi, situation: Block Packagekit from running: Do you want PackageKit to never run? # systemctl stop --now packagekit \ && zypper refresh \ && zypper remove --clean-deps PackageKit \ && zypper addlock --comment 'Packagekit was hung, blocking zypper. BYE!' PackageKit The command above fails with the following displayed < Invalid unit name " " escaped as "\x20" (maybe you should use systemd-escape?). Robert Webb provided the mentioned solution above (previously). I am looking the mailing up again right now. The mailing list page was not working. -Regards
On 12-18-2024 05:03PM, -pj via openSUSE Users wrote:
Hi, situation: Block Packagekit from running: Do you want PackageKit to never run?
# systemctl stop --now packagekit \ && zypper refresh \ && zypper remove --clean-deps PackageKit \ && zypper addlock --comment 'Packagekit was hung, blocking zypper. BYE!' PackageKit
The command above fails with the following displayed < Invalid unit name " " escaped as "\x20" (maybe you should use systemd-escape?).
Robert Webb provided the mentioned solution above (previously). I am looking the mailing up again right now. The mailing list page was not working. -Regards So packagekit-background.service is a static service . Passed '# systemctl stop packagekit-background.service' Powercycled zypper ref ..... no complaints Wondering if since it is a static service this shut Packagekit.background.service down correctly? Thanks
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: Blocking PackageKit: Message-ID : <587c1bd4-62e4-4f50-b748-1cbfb08539f7@gmx.com> Date & Time: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 17:26:16 -0600 [pj] == -pj via openSUSE Users <users@lists.opensuse.org> has written: pj> On 12-18-2024 05:03PM, -pj via openSUSE Users wrote: pj> > Hi, situation: pj> > Block Packagekit from running: pj> > Do you want PackageKit to never run? pj> > pj> > # systemctl stop --now packagekit \ pj> > && zypper refresh \ pj> > && zypper remove --clean-deps PackageKit \ pj> > && zypper addlock --comment 'Packagekit was hung, blocking zypper. pj> > BYE!' PackageKit pj> > pj> > The command above fails with the following displayed < Invalid unit name pj> > " " escaped as "\x20" (maybe you should use systemd-escape?). pj> > pj> > Robert Webb provided the mentioned solution above (previously). I am pj> > looking the mailing up again right now. The mailing list page was not pj> > working. pj> > -Regards pj> So packagekit-background.service is a static service . pj> Passed '# systemctl stop packagekit-background.service' pj> Powercycled pj> zypper ref ..... no complaints pj> Wondering if since it is a static service this shut pj> Packagekit.background.service down correctly? No. You can check the contents of packagekit-background.service to find out. Best Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Microsoft is overhauling its cybersecurity strategy, called the Secure Future Initiative, to incorporate key security features into its core set of technology platforms and cloud services. " -- Microsoft overhauls cyber strategy to finally embrace security by default --
On 12-18-2024 07:11PM, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
Hello,
In the Message;
Subject : Re: Blocking PackageKit: Message-ID : <587c1bd4-62e4-4f50-b748-1cbfb08539f7@gmx.com> Date & Time: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 17:26:16 -0600
[pj] == -pj via openSUSE Users <users@lists.opensuse.org> has written:
pj> On 12-18-2024 05:03PM, -pj via openSUSE Users wrote: pj> > Hi, situation: pj> > Block Packagekit from running: pj> > Do you want PackageKit to never run? pj> > pj> > # systemctl stop --now packagekit \ pj> > && zypper refresh \ pj> > && zypper remove --clean-deps PackageKit \ pj> > && zypper addlock --comment 'Packagekit was hung, blocking zypper. pj> > BYE!' PackageKit pj> > pj> > The command above fails with the following displayed < Invalid unit name pj> > " " escaped as "\x20" (maybe you should use systemd-escape?). pj> > pj> > Robert Webb provided the mentioned solution above (previously). I am pj> > looking the mailing up again right now. The mailing list page was not pj> > working. pj> > -Regards pj> So packagekit-background.service is a static service . pj> Passed '# systemctl stop packagekit-background.service' pj> Powercycled pj> zypper ref ..... no complaints pj> Wondering if since it is a static service this shut pj> Packagekit.background.service down correctly?
No.
You can check the contents of packagekit-background.service to find out.
Best Regards.
--- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Microsoft is overhauling its cybersecurity strategy, called the Secure Future Initiative, to incorporate key security features into its core set of technology platforms and cloud services. "
-- Microsoft overhauls cyber strategy to finally embrace security by default -- Well hello there and thank you for your response.🫥
I have thankfully found a tutorial provided by an advanced user < https://forums.opensuse.org/u/karlmistelberger Machine 1, (Dell Optiplex 3010): systemctl list-unit-files packagekit* UNIT FILE STATE PRESET packagekit-background.service static - packagekit-offline-update.service static - packagekit.service static - packagekit-background.timer disabled disabled Machine 2, (MSI Z170A GAMING M5 (MS-7977,i5 6600k) < hightower-i5-6600k:~> systemctl list-unit-files packagekit* UNIT FILE STATE PRESET 0 unit files listed. - Can you help me understand why the 2 machines listed above display different output for the same command? - Thank you and seasons best
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: Blocking PackageKit: Message-ID : <a30c005f-fa87-4715-8c2a-fc1ac58c05ac@gmx.com> Date & Time: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 20:48:34 -0600 [pj] == -pj via openSUSE Users <users@lists.opensuse.org> has written: [...] pj> I have thankfully found a tutorial provided by an advanced user < pj> https://forums.opensuse.org/u/karlmistelberger What did you see ...... (_ _? pj> Machine 1, (Dell Optiplex 3010): systemctl list-unit-files packagekit* pj> UNIT FILE STATE PRESET pj> packagekit-background.service static - pj> packagekit-offline-update.service static - pj> packagekit.service static - pj> packagekit-background.timer disabled disabled pj> Machine 2, (MSI Z170A GAMING M5 (MS-7977,i5 6600k) < hightower-i5-6600k:~> systemctl list-unit-files packagekit* pj> UNIT FILE STATE PRESET pj> 0 unit files listed. pj> Can you help me understand why the 2 machines listed above display pj> different output for the same command? You just searched for service units that contained the name "packagekit", and Machine2 is just saying that it doesn't exist. Why don't you look up the meaning of static in systemctl? Best Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "During testing, Sakana found that its system began unexpectedly attempting to modify its own experiment code to extend the time it had to work on a problem." -- Research AI model unexpectedly attempts to modify its own code to extend runtime (ars TECHNICA) --
Why don't you look up the meaning of static in systemctl?
Best Regards.
--- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "During testing, Sakana found that its system began unexpectedly attempting to modify its own experiment code to extend the time it had to work on a problem."
-- Research AI model unexpectedly attempts to modify its own code to extend runtime (ars TECHNICA) -- Hi, man systemctl "static" │ The unit file is not enabled, and has │ │ │ no provisions for enabling in the │ │ | │ [Install] unit file section. │ Has exit code of 0 Thanks for suggesting this.🫥
Why don't you look up the meaning of static in systemctl?
Best Regards.
--- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "During testing, Sakana found that its system began unexpectedly attempting to modify its own experiment code to extend the time it had to work on a problem."
-- Research AI model unexpectedly attempts to modify its own code to extend runtime (ars TECHNICA) -- I like this option < # systemctl stop packagekit-background.service Is this a bad option or what? -Thanks
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: Blocking PackageKit: Message-ID : <6bf4f74f-b7a5-4edd-95d7-5a1e10df033b@gmx.com> Date & Time: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 21:41:15 -0600 [pj] == -pj via openSUSE Users <users@lists.opensuse.org> has written: MN> > Why don't you look up the meaning of static in systemctl? pj> I like this option < # systemctl stop packagekit-background.service pj> Is this a bad option or what? There is a "stop" option, but it is a meaningless option for packagekit-background.service unit. Best Regards & I'm off. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Companies have come to view generative AI as a kind of monster that must be fed at all costs―even if it isn’t always clear what exactly that data is needed for or what those future AI systems might end up doing." -- Generative AI Is Making Companies Even More Thirsty for Your Data --
On 12-18-2024 10:24PM, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
Hello,
In the Message;
Subject : Re: Blocking PackageKit: Message-ID : <6bf4f74f-b7a5-4edd-95d7-5a1e10df033b@gmx.com> Date & Time: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 21:41:15 -0600
[pj] == -pj via openSUSE Users <users@lists.opensuse.org> has written:
MN> > Why don't you look up the meaning of static in systemctl?
pj> I like this option < # systemctl stop packagekit-background.service pj> Is this a bad option or what?
There is a "stop" option, but it is a meaningless option for packagekit-background.service unit.
Please see the result of passing < :~> systemctl status packagekit-background.service ○ packagekit-background.service - Script to update the system with PackageKit Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/packagekit-background.service; static) Active: inactive (dead) - The Packagekit-background.service has been stopped and *remains* stopped across powercycles of the Dell Optiplex 3010. Your thoughts?
Best Regards & I'm off.
--- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Companies have come to view generative AI as a kind of monster that must be fed at all costs―even if it isn’t always clear what exactly that data is needed for or what those future AI systems might end up doing."
-- Generative AI Is Making Companies Even More Thirsty for Your Data -- -Regards
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: Blocking PackageKit: Message-ID : <c9b25880-212f-44a1-b6ca-47296d32c1d1@gmx.com> Date & Time: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 22:57:47 -0600 [pj] == -pj via openSUSE Users <users@lists.opensuse.org> has written: pj> On 12-18-2024 10:24PM, Masaru Nomiya wrote: [...] MN> > There is a "stop" option, but it is a meaningless option for MN> > packagekit-background.service unit. pj> Please see the result of passing < :~> systemctl status pj> packagekit-background.service pj> ○ packagekit-background.service - Script to update the system with pj> PackageKit pj> Loaded: loaded pj> (/usr/lib/systemd/system/packagekit-background.service; static) pj> Active: inactive (dead) pj> - pj> The Packagekit-background.service has been stopped and *remains* stopped pj> across powercycles of the Dell Optiplex 3010. It's the so-called "Pretend to be dead". Have a look: $ systemctl --state=dead Best Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "During testing, Sakana found that its system began unexpectedly attempting to modify its own experiment code to extend the time it had to work on a problem." -- Research AI model unexpectedly attempts to modify its own code to extend runtime (ars TECHNICA) --
It's the so-called "Pretend to be dead".
Have a look:
$ systemctl --state=dead
Best Regards.
--- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "During testing, Sakana found that its system began unexpectedly attempting to modify its own experiment code to extend the time it had to work on a problem."
-- Research AI model unexpectedly attempts to modify its own code to extend runtime (ars TECHNICA) --
Packagekit-background.service is not displayed in the output. hmm, what is going on here?
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: Blocking PackageKit: Message-ID : <584f4657-b631-4baa-a886-2ac931404844@gmx.com> Date & Time: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 00:39:41 -0600 [pj] == -pj via openSUSE Users <users@lists.opensuse.org> has written: MN> > It's the so-called "Pretend to be dead". MN> > Have a look: MN> > $ systemctl --state=dead [...] pj> Packagekit-background.service is not displayed in the output. hmm, what pj> is going on here? Do you know what "Pretend to be dead" means? Ex. In may case, at the present time, freshclam.service loaded inactive dead Clam AntiVirus database updater but. [...] Dec 19 15:46:42 localhost freshclam[904307]: ClamAV update process started at Thu Dec 19 15:46:42 2024 Dec 19 15:46:42 localhost freshclam[904307]: daily.cld database is up-to-date (version: 27491, sigs: 2070539, f-level: 90, builder: raynman) Dec 19 15:46:42 localhost freshclam[904307]: main.cvd database is up-to-date (version: 62, sigs: 6647427, f-level: 90, builder: sigmgr) Dec 19 15:46:42 localhost freshclam[904307]: bytecode.cvd database is up-to-date (version: 335, sigs: 86, f-level: 90, builder: raynman) Dec 19 15:46:42 localhost systemd[1]: freshclam.service: Deactivated successfully. Dec 19 15:46:42 localhost systemd[1]: Finished Clam AntiVirus database updater [...] Best Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Microsoft is overhauling its cybersecurity strategy, called the Secure Future Initiative, to incorporate key security features into its core set of technology platforms and cloud services. " -- Microsoft overhauls cyber strategy to finally embrace security by default --
Just sayin'... my wife and me had some fun with PK and discover, and for good reason we fixed the problem FOR GOOD. :-) https://mastodon.cloud/@chillicampari@layer8.space/113234036447444068 Am Donnerstag, 19. Dezember 2024, 09:33:58 Mitteleuropäische Normalzeit schrieb Masaru Nomiya:
Hello,
In the Message;
Subject : Re: Blocking PackageKit: Message-ID : <584f4657-b631-4baa-a886-2ac931404844@gmx.com> Date & Time: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 00:39:41 -0600
[pj] == -pj via openSUSE Users <users@lists.opensuse.org> has written:
MN> > It's the so-called "Pretend to be dead".
MN> > Have a look:
MN> > $ systemctl --state=dead [...] pj> Packagekit-background.service is not displayed in the output. hmm, what pj> is going on here?
Do you know what "Pretend to be dead" means?
Ex. In may case, at the present time,
freshclam.service loaded inactive dead Clam AntiVirus database updater
but.
[...] Dec 19 15:46:42 localhost freshclam[904307]: ClamAV update process started at Thu Dec 19 15:46:42 2024 Dec 19 15:46:42 localhost freshclam[904307]: daily.cld database is up-to-date (version: 27491, sigs: 2070539, f-level: 90, builder: raynman) Dec 19 15:46:42 localhost freshclam[904307]: main.cvd database is up-to-date (version: 62, sigs: 6647427, f-level: 90, builder: sigmgr) Dec 19 15:46:42 localhost freshclam[904307]: bytecode.cvd database is up-to-date (version: 335, sigs: 86, f-level: 90, builder: raynman) Dec 19 15:46:42 localhost systemd[1]: freshclam.service: Deactivated successfully. Dec 19 15:46:42 localhost systemd[1]: Finished Clam AntiVirus database updater [...]
Best Regards.
--- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Microsoft is overhauling its cybersecurity strategy, called the Secure Future Initiative, to incorporate key security features into its core set of technology platforms and cloud services. "
-- Microsoft overhauls cyber strategy to finally embrace security by default --
-- Best Regards - Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Markus Feilner, Feilner IT - 20 years of open services - Digital Sustainability, Sovereignty, Sobriety Open Source Strategy, Knowledge Management, Documentation Trainings, Workshops, Coaching, Networking, Politics, Journalism https://www.feilner-it.net, 93059 Regensburg Wöhrdstr. 10, +49 170 302 7092 (+Signal) https://mastodon.cloud/@mfeilner https://mastodon.social/@FeilnerIT PGP: 40A3C306F96133067C11CFD9A958A906268C9F0A http://www.feilner-it.net/files/MFpub.asc Xing: http://www.xing.com/profile/Markus_Feilner LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markusfeilner @mfeilner: Mastodon, Matrix, Jabber, ... Once you see something, you can't unsee it. And once you've seen it, keeping quiet, saying nothing, becomes as political an act as speaking out. (Arundhati Roy)
Just sayin'... my wife and me had some fun with PK and discover, and for good reason we fixed the problem FOR GOOD. :-)
https://mastodon.cloud/@chillicampari@layer8.space/113234036447444068
On 12-19-2024 05:13PM, Markus Feilner wrote: - Was, (i + enter key) and packagekit was then ignored? Seasons Hopes🫥 -
┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Microsoft is overhauling its cybersecurity strategy, called the Secure Future Initiative, to incorporate key security features into its core set of technology platforms and cloud services. "
-- Microsoft overhauls cyber strategy to finally embrace security by default --
Sorry for brevity yesterday. Here's the longer version. The problem with PackageKit ignoring the quit request has been there for years, I don't know if there ever was a pull request or bug report, but the "Today I win the PackageKit game" is utter sarcasm, that was shared by many other users... And my solution: zypper rm PackageKit discover discover6 zypper al PackageKit discover discover6 (on Tumbleweed) is the only one I know of that permanently fixes the problem (other than CTRL- C, killall -9 PackageKit and 'zypper dup' again. I've had many situations where dependencies led to an install and activation of PackageKit and a fail of the updates or similar. Mostly I noticed that because of discover and the annoying "Updates available" notification in the status bar. Maybe this is how it's meant to be on other SUSE variants, but it here on our systems it never worked in a way that we could live with, so the two commands above fixed the problem permanently. Oh, and the other locks (a total of 5 or 6) on my systems concern packages like abiword or gnumeric that I don't use but which have been adding themselves on top of the application/mime type list, so that a .ods or .doc file wasn't opened with my favorite tool (libreoffice) anymore. So the quickest and safest solution for me was 'zypper al gnumeric abiword'. I don't need them, and personally I think adding yourself ON TOP of the application list is not very polite... Thus on any new system I install , the command zypper rm PackageKit discover discover6 abiword gnumeric && zypper al PackageKit discover discover6 abiword gnumeric has been added to my personal post-install script... I know it's personalization. Am Freitag, 20. Dezember 2024, 04:08:34 Mitteleuropäische Normalzeit schrieb - pj via openSUSE Users:
On 12-19-2024 05:13PM, Markus Feilner wrote:
Just sayin'... my wife and me had some fun with PK and discover, and for good reason we fixed the problem FOR GOOD. :-)
https://mastodon.cloud/@chillicampari@layer8.space/113234036447444068
- Was, (i + enter key) and packagekit was then ignored? Seasons Hopes🫥 -
┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Microsoft is overhauling its cybersecurity strategy, called the
Secure Future Initiative, to incorporate key security
features
into its core set of technology platforms and cloud
services. "
-- Microsoft overhauls cyber strategy to finally embrace security by default --
-- Best Regards - Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Markus Feilner, Feilner IT - 20 years of open services - Digital Sustainability, Sovereignty, Sobriety Open Source Strategy, Knowledge Management, Documentation Trainings, Workshops, Coaching, Networking, Politics, Journalism https://www.feilner-it.net, 93059 Regensburg Wöhrdstr. 10, +49 170 302 7092 (+Signal) https://mastodon.cloud/@mfeilner https://mastodon.social/@FeilnerIT PGP: 40A3C306F96133067C11CFD9A958A906268C9F0A http://www.feilner-it.net/files/MFpub.asc Xing: http://www.xing.com/profile/Markus_Feilner LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markusfeilner @mfeilner: Mastodon, Matrix, Jabber, ... Once you see something, you can't unsee it. And once you've seen it, keeping quiet, saying nothing, becomes as political an act as speaking out. (Arundhati Roy)
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: Blocking PackageKit: Message-ID : <5003143.vqk35OSZvh@al-khwarizmi.feilner-it.home> Date & Time: Fri, 20 Dec 2024 00:13:33 +0100 [MF] == Markus Feilner <mfeilner@feilner-it.net> has written: MF> Just sayin'... my wife and me had some fun with PK and discover, MF> and for good reason we fixed the problem FOR GOOD. :-) MF> https://mastodon.cloud/@chillicampari@layer8.space/113234036447444068 I don't understand what you're trying to say. To you, computers may be game machines, but to me, they are logical machines. This is my way of doing things. 1. $ systemctl status packagekit-background.service packagekit-background.service - Script to update the system with PackageKit Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/packagekit-background.service; static) Active: inactive (dead) 2. $ cat /usr/lib/systemd/system/packagekit-background.service [Unit] Description=Script to update the system with PackageKit [Service] ExecStart=/usr/share/PackageKit/packagekit-background.sh 3. $ rpm -qf /usr/share/PackageKit/packagekit-background.sh PackageKit-1.2.8-6.1.x86_64 4. $ rpm -q --whatrequires PackageKit PackageKit-branding-openSUSE-42.1-3.7.noarch PackageKit-backend-zypp-1.2.8-6.1.x86_64 discover6-backend-packagekit-6.2.4-1.1.x86_64 5. rpm -qa *PackageKit* PackageKit-1.2.8-6.1.x86_64 typelib-1_0-PackageKitGlib-1_0-1.2.8-6.1.x86_64 PackageKit-backend-zypp-1.2.8-6.1.x86_64 PackageKit-branding-openSUSE-42.1-3.7.noarch PackageKit-gtk3-module-1.2.8-6.1.x86_64 PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin-1.2.8-6.1.x86_64 6. $ rpm -qa *discover* discover6-backend-fwupd-6.2.4-1.1.x86_64 discover6-6.2.4-1.1.x86_64 discover6-backend-packagekit-6.2.4-1.1.x86_64 discover6-notifier-6.2.4-1.1.x86_64 7. $ sudo rpm -e $(rpm -qa *discover*) 8. $ sudo rpm -e $(rpm -qa PackageKit*) Best Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Reading widely about things that don't seem immediately or practically useful, in the hope that what you learn now may prove meaningful later―that's pretty much the definition of a liberal- arts education. Who knew that one of its best defenders would turn out to be a computer scientist?" -- "What Does It Really Mean to Learn?" THE NEW YORKER --
Hello,
In the Message;
Subject : Re: Blocking PackageKit: Message-ID : <5003143.vqk35OSZvh@al-khwarizmi.feilner-it.home> Date & Time: Fri, 20 Dec 2024 00:13:33 +0100
[MF] == Markus Feilner <mfeilner@feilner-it.net> has written:
MF> Just sayin'... my wife and me had some fun with PK and discover, MF> and for good reason we fixed the problem FOR GOOD. :-)
MF> https://mastodon.cloud/@chillicampari@layer8.space/113234036447444068
I don't understand what you're trying to say.
To you, computers may be game machines, but to me, they are logical machines.
This is my way of doing things.
1. $ systemctl status packagekit-background.service
packagekit-background.service - Script to update the system with PackageKit Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/packagekit-background.service; static) Active: inactive (dead)
2. $ cat /usr/lib/systemd/system/packagekit-background.service
[Unit] Description=Script to update the system with PackageKit
[Service] ExecStart=/usr/share/PackageKit/packagekit-background.sh
3. $ rpm -qf /usr/share/PackageKit/packagekit-background.sh
PackageKit-1.2.8-6.1.x86_64
4. $ rpm -q --whatrequires PackageKit
PackageKit-branding-openSUSE-42.1-3.7.noarch PackageKit-backend-zypp-1.2.8-6.1.x86_64 discover6-backend-packagekit-6.2.4-1.1.x86_64
5. rpm -qa *PackageKit*
PackageKit-1.2.8-6.1.x86_64 typelib-1_0-PackageKitGlib-1_0-1.2.8-6.1.x86_64 PackageKit-backend-zypp-1.2.8-6.1.x86_64 PackageKit-branding-openSUSE-42.1-3.7.noarch PackageKit-gtk3-module-1.2.8-6.1.x86_64 PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin-1.2.8-6.1.x86_64
6. $ rpm -qa *discover*
discover6-backend-fwupd-6.2.4-1.1.x86_64 discover6-6.2.4-1.1.x86_64 discover6-backend-packagekit-6.2.4-1.1.x86_64 discover6-notifier-6.2.4-1.1.x86_64
7. $ sudo rpm -e $(rpm -qa *discover*)
8. $ sudo rpm -e $(rpm -qa PackageKit*)
Best Regards.
--- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Reading widely about things that don't seem immediately or practically useful, in the hope that what you learn now may
Didn't do the trick, we needed the lock for discover and PackageKit to make it vanish... Am Freitag, 20. Dezember 2024, 04:12:13 Mitteleuropäische Normalzeit schrieb Masaru Nomiya: prove
meaningful later―that's pretty much the definition of a
liberal-
arts education. Who knew that one of its best defenders
would turn
out to be a computer scientist?"
-- "What Does It Really Mean to Learn?" THE NEW YORKER --
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On 12-19-2024 02:33AM, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
Hello,
In the Message;
Subject : Re: Blocking PackageKit: Message-ID : <584f4657-b631-4baa-a886-2ac931404844@gmx.com> Date & Time: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 00:39:41 -0600
[pj] == -pj via openSUSE Users <users@lists.opensuse.org> has written:
MN> > It's the so-called "Pretend to be dead".
MN> > Have a look:
MN> > $ systemctl --state=dead [...] pj> Packagekit-background.service is not displayed in the output. hmm, what pj> is going on here?
Do you know what "Pretend to be dead" means?
If you can explain more about "Pretend to be dead" it may be of help.
Ex. In may case, at the present time,
freshclam.service loaded inactive dead Clam AntiVirus database updater
but.
[...] Dec 19 15:46:42 localhost freshclam[904307]: ClamAV update process started at Thu Dec 19 15:46:42 2024 Dec 19 15:46:42 localhost freshclam[904307]: daily.cld database is up-to-date (version: 27491, sigs: 2070539, f-level: 90, builder: raynman) Dec 19 15:46:42 localhost freshclam[904307]: main.cvd database is up-to-date (version: 62, sigs: 6647427, f-level: 90, builder: sigmgr) Dec 19 15:46:42 localhost freshclam[904307]: bytecode.cvd database is up-to-date (version: 335, sigs: 86, f-level: 90, builder: raynman) Dec 19 15:46:42 localhost systemd[1]: freshclam.service: Deactivated successfully. Dec 19 15:46:42 localhost systemd[1]: Finished Clam AntiVirus database updater [...]
Is this your preference with "freshclam.service"? It looks as if you have simply stopped the service.
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I think I found some more out: Machine2 hightower-i5-6600k:~> zypper se -si packagekit Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... S | Name | Type | Version | Arch | Repository ---+--------------------------------+---------+-----------+--------+----------- i | libpackagekit-glib2-18 | package | 1.2.8-6.1 | x86_64 | repo-oss i | libpackagekitqt6-1 | package | 1.1.1-1.6 | x86_64 | repo-oss i | PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin | package | 1.2.8-6.1 | x86_64 | repo-oss i | PackageKit-gtk3-module | package | 1.2.8-6.1 | x86_64 | repo-oss i | typelib-1_0-PackageKitGlib-1_0 | package | 1.2.8-6.1 | x86_64 | repo-oss I have previously removed packagekit related packages from Lenovo-m57p which is now 'hightower'. Machine1 Dell Optiplex 3010 zypper se -si packagekit Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... S | Name | Type | Version | Arch | Repository ---+--------------------------------+---------+-----------+--------+---------------------- i | discover6-backend-packagekit | package | 6.2.4-1.1 | x86_64 | Main Repository (OSS) i | libpackagekit-glib2-18 | package | 1.2.8-6.1 | x86_64 | Main Repository (OSS) i | libpackagekitqt6-1 | package | 1.1.1-1.6 | x86_64 | Main Repository (OSS) i | PackageKit | package | 1.2.8-6.1 | x86_64 | Main Repository (OSS) i | PackageKit-backend-zypp | package | 1.2.8-6.1 | x86_64 | Main Repository (OSS) i | PackageKit-branding-openSUSE | package | 42.1-3.7 | noarch | Main Repository (OSS) i | PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin | package | 1.2.8-6.1 | x86_64 | Main Repository (OSS) i | PackageKit-gtk3-module | package | 1.2.8-6.1 | x86_64 | Main Repository (OSS) i | typelib-1_0-PackageKitGlib-1_0 | package | 1.2.8-6.1 | x86_64 | Main Repository (OSS) I have *not* removed any packagekit related packages from Dell Optiplex 3010 -Seasons Best
On 2024-12-19 00:03, -pj via openSUSE Users wrote:
Hi, situation: Block Packagekit from running: Do you want PackageKit to never run?
# systemctl stop --now packagekit \ && zypper refresh \ && zypper remove --clean-deps PackageKit \ && zypper addlock --comment 'Packagekit was hung, blocking zypper. BYE!' PackageKit
The command above fails with the following displayed < Invalid unit name " " escaped as "\x20" (maybe you should use systemd-escape?).
You probably wrote a space after one of the "\" above. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.5 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 12-18-2024 07:12PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2024-12-19 00:03, -pj via openSUSE Users wrote:
Hi, situation: Block Packagekit from running: Do you want PackageKit to never run?
# systemctl stop --now packagekit \ && zypper refresh \ && zypper remove --clean-deps PackageKit \ && zypper addlock --comment 'Packagekit was hung, blocking zypper. BYE!' PackageKit
The command above fails with the following displayed < Invalid unit name " " escaped as "\x20" (maybe you should use systemd-escape?).
You probably wrote a space after one of the "\" above.
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