On 2012/04/24 20:07 (GMT+0200) Carlos E. R. composed:
On 2012-04-24 19:37, Felix Miata wrote:
> On 2012/04/24 19:16 (GMT+0200) Carlos E. R.
>> Felix Miata wrote:
>>> For a tester, I can't disagree, or
for an ordinary bug. Systemd trouble is
>>> no ordinary bug, while the OP certainly seems to be no willing tester.
>>> Systemd is a whole class of bugs like KDE4.0-4.5 was, betaware foisted on
>>> users prematurely. Ordinary mortal users who need their systems to just
>>> work don't need and shouldn't be bothered by major system
>>> are incomplete, unless the devs' goal is to get them to switch to
>>> other distro.
> You probably should read the whole thread,
including the subject, when
> you're fully conscious.
By "whole thread" I didn't mean thread in the customary sense, and so it
didn't and doesn't seem like you did. I meant within the context of all
threads on the same general subject initiated by the OP, which go back
several weeks; threads on which the OP followed up instead of leaving the
rest of us so inclined to speculate and discuss without his further input. If
that's in fact what you did, you might have recognized and agreed with my
perception that the OP is just not the type of person to get involved in
development issues like recognizing bugs as bugs or filing useful bug
reports, much less following up on any he might file.
Bug reports are best limited as much as practicable to being filed by those
both willing, and able, to do follow-through. The OP just wants a 12.1
install that works as well as his 11.4 does, and doesn't seem the type to
deal with bugs beyond what's absolutely necessary to work around the ones he
cannot avoid. His goal seems perfectly reasonable, and particularly topical
to this list.
> I'm not the OP.
But you are defending that the OP do not report. I
defend that any body
having any problem with systemd report it. ANY problem, one by tedious one.
You have your opinion. I stand by mine. As Brian K. White wrote in reply to
you, like I wrote earlier, some people are just not meant to be bug
reporters, and are likely to jump distros rather than be bothered if pushed
to do so.
Remember, this is a general purpose (English) user help list, not a devel
list. Focus here should be on helping people get through their problems, not
recruiting them to be beta testers, which is what anyone pushing people to
get involved solving systemd's problems is doing.
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
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