[opensuse] 13.1 Tbird 31.1.0 - Multiple Crashes Since Update Yesterday - Where to see crash reports?
All, Where can I see what is causing Thunderbird to crash. I had no problems with 24.7 on 13.1, now tbird 31.1 has cratered twice in the past 15 minutes. The crash reports are: bp-6005ca7d-fd82-4249-9814-798322140925.txt bp-51874d1e-5b8f-4c83-bc05-05bf62140925.txt How do I stop tbird from crashing? Do I need to downgrade back to 24.7? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 09/25/2014 06:30 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
All,
Where can I see what is causing Thunderbird to crash. I had no problems with 24.7 on 13.1, now tbird 31.1 has cratered twice in the past 15 minutes. The crash reports are:
bp-6005ca7d-fd82-4249-9814-798322140925.txt bp-51874d1e-5b8f-4c83-bc05-05bf62140925.txt
How do I stop tbird from crashing? Do I need to downgrade back to 24.7?
Found it: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/6005ca7d-fd82-4249-9814-7983221... Downgraded to 24.7 in the interim. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 07:18:03PM -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 09/25/2014 06:30 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
All,
Where can I see what is causing Thunderbird to crash. I had no problems with 24.7 on 13.1, now tbird 31.1 has cratered twice in the past 15 minutes. The crash reports are:
bp-6005ca7d-fd82-4249-9814-798322140925.txt bp-51874d1e-5b8f-4c83-bc05-05bf62140925.txt
How do I stop tbird from crashing? Do I need to downgrade back to 24.7?
It has been begging of late to download an updated version and when you do, it can't find the servers. it has just been behaving weirdly. It might be best to just uninstall the suse packages and grab the thunderbird and firefox packages from Mozilla. i did this on one machine and it stabilized. Firefox has also been crashing. When you build the new packages though, make sure to get the libraries in the right place on the system. It you just use it in default mode, everything ends up in a local directory under you ~/ Ruben
Found it:
https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/6005ca7d-fd82-4249-9814-7983221...
Downgraded to 24.7 in the interim.
-- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! http://www.brooklyn-living.com Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 09/25/2014 07:24 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
It has been begging of late to download an updated version and when you do, it can't find the servers. it has just been behaving weirdly.
It might be best to just uninstall the suse packages and grab the thunderbird and firefox packages from Mozilla. i did this on one machine and it stabilized. Firefox has also been crashing.
When you build the new packages though, make sure to get the libraries in the right place on the system. It you just use it in default mode, everything ends up in a local directory under you ~/
Ruben
Thanks Ruben, It's really 6-to-one 1/2-dozen-to-another. If I were using my old faithful 11.4 that had been customized, patched and tweaked for 3 years, I would say the Mozilla version may have generic benefit to the install. Here, I have a vanilla 13.1 install and in that case, the openSuSE builds should be fine. openSuSE delayed the 31.1.0 for because they were having problems getting it to build on 13.1 -- so I suspect there are some generic problems that linger in 31.1.0 that openSuSE may need to take another look at. I had 24.7 up 24/7 (no pun intended) for over 2-weeks before updating last night without issues. I ran thunderbird 31.1.0 for less than 20 minutes before it scattered. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 09/25/2014 07:18 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 09/25/2014 06:30 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
All,
Where can I see what is causing Thunderbird to crash. I had no problems with 24.7 on 13.1, now tbird 31.1 has cratered twice in the past 15 minutes. The crash reports are:
bp-6005ca7d-fd82-4249-9814-798322140925.txt bp-51874d1e-5b8f-4c83-bc05-05bf62140925.txt
How do I stop tbird from crashing? Do I need to downgrade back to 24.7?
Found it:
https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/6005ca7d-fd82-4249-9814-7983221...
Downgraded to 24.7 in the interim.
Wolfgang, (you get two copes :) If you get a chance, look at these 2 crash-reports. I've looked at them and they are Greek. It basically says every library in the system crashed from what I can tell. I know you're swamped, so just put this at the bottom of the list. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 08:04:58PM -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 09/25/2014 07:18 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 09/25/2014 06:30 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
All,
I'm sitting here, actually, and for fun, trying tocompile it from source. I get the distict feeling though, FWIW, that this might be another systemd problem because the error on the mozillabinaries seems to be dbus libraries, eventhough they are on the file system just looking at you 8( I'll see if I can compile. Its been a long time since I compiled anything from Mozilla but it took a long time just for the tarball to decompress. I'm looking through my rollerdex to see if I still have contacts with the Mozilla team with Paul left them.. sigh
Where can I see what is causing Thunderbird to crash. I had no problems with 24.7 on 13.1, now tbird 31.1 has cratered twice in the past 15 minutes. The crash reports are:
bp-6005ca7d-fd82-4249-9814-798322140925.txt bp-51874d1e-5b8f-4c83-bc05-05bf62140925.txt
How do I stop tbird from crashing? Do I need to downgrade back to 24.7?
Found it:
https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/6005ca7d-fd82-4249-9814-7983221...
Downgraded to 24.7 in the interim.
Wolfgang, (you get two copes :)
If you get a chance, look at these 2 crash-reports. I've looked at them and they are Greek. It basically says every library in the system crashed from what I can tell. I know you're swamped, so just put this at the bottom of the list.
-- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! http://www.brooklyn-living.com Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 08:04:58PM -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 09/25/2014 07:18 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 09/25/2014 06:30 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
All,
Where can I see what is causing Thunderbird to crash. I had no problems with 24.7 on 13.1, now tbird 31.1 has cratered twice in the past 15 minutes. The
See here is the problem: checking MOZ_DBUS_LIBS... -ldbus-1 checking for dbus-glib-1 >= 0.60... Package dbus-glib-1 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `dbus-glib-1.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'dbus-glib-1' found configure: error: Library requirements (dbus-glib-1 >= 0.60) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them. Now you have TWO monolithic packages duking it out to see who can make a great mess of the system Or maybe I'm wrong. The linker ldconf knows it is there
crash reports are:
bp-6005ca7d-fd82-4249-9814-798322140925.txt bp-51874d1e-5b8f-4c83-bc05-05bf62140925.txt
How do I stop tbird from crashing? Do I need to downgrade back to 24.7?
Found it:
https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/6005ca7d-fd82-4249-9814-7983221...
Downgraded to 24.7 in the interim.
Wolfgang, (you get two copes :)
If you get a chance, look at these 2 crash-reports. I've looked at them and they are Greek. It basically says every library in the system crashed from what I can tell. I know you're swamped, so just put this at the bottom of the list.
-- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! http://www.brooklyn-living.com Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 26/09/2014 01:30, David C. Rankin a écrit :
All,
Where can I see what is causing Thunderbird to crash. I had no problems with 24.7 on 13.1, now tbird 31.1 has cratered twice in the past 15 minutes. The crash reports are:
bp-6005ca7d-fd82-4249-9814-798322140925.txt bp-51874d1e-5b8f-4c83-bc05-05bf62140925.txt
How do I stop tbird from crashing? Do I need to downgrade back to 24.7?
I had th crashing continuously for some weeks now, and only openSUSE th, because I can run the mozilla downloaded th without problem. Today th seems to work for me, who knows but you ca, still go to mozilla.org and dl thunderbird (no install needed, only unarchive) jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 26/09/2014 01:30, David C. Rankin a écrit : I had th crashing continuously for some weeks now, and only openSUSE th, because I can run the mozilla downloaded th without problem. Today th seems to work for me, who knows alas not! after some ,time, crash, even when iddle (may be on collecting mails), I'm back to mozilla version. notice that I even moved my .thunderbird and rebuils my accounts/archives (I'm in imap) without better result jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 26.09.2014 um 08:25 schrieb jdd:
Le 26/09/2014 01:30, David C. Rankin a écrit :
I had th crashing continuously for some weeks now, and only openSUSE th, because I can run the mozilla downloaded th without problem.
Today th seems to work for me, who knows
alas not!
after some ,time, crash, even when iddle (may be on collecting mails), I'm back to mozilla version.
notice that I even moved my .thunderbird and rebuils my accounts/archives (I'm in imap) without better result
jdd
I'm running Thunderbird on several openSUSE 13.1 machines; each has several mail accounts, mostly IMAP, installed and I don't remember thunderbird ever crashed. Do you have some special extensions installed which are causing problems? -- Johannes Weberhofer Weberhofer GmbH, Austria, Vienna -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hi, Am 26.09.2014 um 03:04 schrieb David C. Rankin:
On 09/25/2014 07:18 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 09/25/2014 06:30 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
All,
Where can I see what is causing Thunderbird to crash. I had no problems with 24.7 on 13.1, now tbird 31.1 has cratered twice in the past 15 minutes. The crash reports are:
bp-6005ca7d-fd82-4249-9814-798322140925.txt bp-51874d1e-5b8f-4c83-bc05-05bf62140925.txt
How do I stop tbird from crashing? Do I need to downgrade back to 24.7?
Found it:
https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/6005ca7d-fd82-4249-9814-7983221...
Downgraded to 24.7 in the interim.
Wolfgang, (you get two copes :)
If you get a chance, look at these 2 crash-reports. I've looked at them and they are Greek. It basically says every library in the system crashed from what I can tell. I know you're swamped, so just put this at the bottom of the list.
Upstream Thunderbird also sees a bigger amount of crashes with TB 31.1 but the reasons are not identified yet. Unfortunately our debugsymbol extraction automatism in RPM makes the mozilla internal crashreporter pretty much useless as we do not have decoded crashdumps :-( (A long open issue related to whatever I don't really understand) So if Thunderbird is crashing regularly for someone who can reproduce it, you could try to follow http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Bugreport_Mozilla The same approach is supposed to work for Thunderbird. If you get decoded stacktraces with gdb please open bugs at bnc and attach them. I'll look at them. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 26/09/2014 08:31, Johannes Weberhofer a écrit :
I'm running Thunderbird on several openSUSE 13.1 machines; each has several mail accounts, mostly IMAP, installed and I don't remember thunderbird ever crashed. Do you have some special extensions installed which are causing problems?
in the process of removing the old .thunderbird, I also removed all the extensions with no better result and the original th do not crash, so this is something special to openSUSE implementation, but what?? jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 09/26/2014 01:31 AM, Johannes Weberhofer wrote:
I'm running Thunderbird on several openSUSE 13.1 machines; each has several mail accounts, mostly IMAP, installed and I don't remember thunderbird ever crashed. Do you have some special extensions installed which are causing problems?
Johannes, The only ones listed in addons are: hidemenubar@moztw.org 6.0.20110915 compatibility@addons.mozilla.org 1.1 en-US@dictionaries.addons.mozilla.org 7.0.1 Attachment Extractor 1.3.5.1 Folder Flags 1,2,6 Folder Pane Tools 0.6.1 No issues listed when it did its compatibility check. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 09/26/2014 02:07 AM, jdd wrote:
in the process of removing the old .thunderbird, I also removed all the extensions with no better result
and the original th do not crash, so this is something special to openSUSE implementation, but what??
jdd
jdd, I downgraded to 24.7 and absolutely NO problems so far (I always set keeppackages=1 just for this reason) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 09/26/2014 01:42 AM, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
Upstream Thunderbird also sees a bigger amount of crashes with TB 31.1 but the reasons are not identified yet. Unfortunately our debugsymbol extraction automatism in RPM makes the mozilla internal crashreporter pretty much useless as we do not have decoded crashdumps :-( (A long open issue related to whatever I don't really understand) So if Thunderbird is crashing regularly for someone who can reproduce it, you could try to follow http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Bugreport_Mozilla The same approach is supposed to work for Thunderbird. If you get decoded stacktraces with gdb please open bugs at bnc and attach them. I'll look at them.
Wolfgang
Thank you Wolfgang, Glad I just wasn't missing something easy in the crash-reports :) I'll look at the -debug packages needed to get a meaningful gdb backtrace and if it isn't too bad I'll try running tb in gdb. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 26/09/2014 09:22, David C. Rankin a écrit :
On 09/26/2014 02:07 AM, jdd wrote:
in the process of removing the old .thunderbird, I also removed all the extensions with no better result
and the original th do not crash, so this is something special to openSUSE implementation, but what??
jdd
jdd,
I downgraded to 24.7 and absolutely NO problems so far
(I always set keeppackages=1 just for this reason)
yes, I also tried this, but them you have to ban th to not have to stop upgrading and you won't be anymore upgraded at all. with my system, I try th each day in hope any update will solve the problem jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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David C. Rankin
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Johannes Weberhofer
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Ruben Safir
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Wolfgang Rosenauer