On 01/12/2016 09:22 AM, Istvan Gabor wrote:

Hello:

In openSUSE 13.2 the traditional network setup (ifup in yast) was removed and wicd (??) was introduced which I didn't like when I tried. Along with ifup kinternet/qinternet and related packages, eg smpppd (SuSE Meta PPP Daemon, the back-end for kinternet) have been removed too. I am curious how network manager independent network setup occurs in leap 42.1? Does it have kinternet on something similar?

Thanks,

Istvan

I've been wondering that myself. So far I only have leap in a VM with a fixed interface, and no wifi, but sooner or later I will upgrade from 13.2 and would want to know if there is a replacement for Network Manager. I've never had a problem with Network Manager except in the early days. This laptop travels a lot and I expect to be able to hook onto any available WIFI as joe user, without needing root, and without digging in scripts. Because I've never had an issue with Network Manager, I've never had reason to use wicked, it. I did find this page about moving from one to the other: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/170842/opensuse-switch-from-wicked-t... -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Hello: In January Per Jessen wrote the following, see http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2016-01/msg00252.html: Per Jessen írta:

Istvan Gabor wrote:

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Hello:

In openSUSE 13.2 the traditional network setup (ifup in yast) was removed

Despite that, it still works quite well.

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and wicd (??) was introduced which I didn't like when I tried.

I'm not sure there is much to try - wicked runs your network. WHether the interface is ifup or networkmanager.

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Along with ifup kinternet/qinternet and related packages, eg smpppd (SuSE Meta PPP Daemon, the back-end for kinternet) have been removed too. I am curious how network manager independent network setup occurs in leap 42.1? Does it have kinternet on something similar?

YaST / ifup. Works perfectly fine.

I again installed openSUSE 13.2 and would like to configure network in the traditional way (ie not network manager). I am puzzled by the above statements like "Despite that, it still works quite well. " and "YaST / ifup. Works perfectly fine." I want to be able to disconnect/reconnect the network by one click, like kinternet made it possible in < 13.2 versions. I could not find kinternet/qinternet and smpppd packages either in 13.2 or leap 42 repo. Isn't it possible anymore to control network connection by user by simple clicking? Thanks, Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Istvan Gabor wrote:

Hello:

In January Per Jessen wrote the following, see http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2016-01/msg00252.html:

Per Jessen írta:

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Istvan Gabor wrote:

...

Hello:

In openSUSE 13.2 the traditional network setup (ifup in yast) was removed

Despite that, it still works quite well.

...

and wicd (??) was introduced which I didn't like when I tried.

I'm not sure there is much to try - wicked runs your network. WHether the interface is ifup or networkmanager.

...

Along with ifup kinternet/qinternet and related packages, eg smpppd (SuSE Meta PPP Daemon, the back-end for kinternet) have been removed too. I am curious how network manager independent network setup occurs in leap 42.1? Does it have kinternet on something similar?

YaST / ifup. Works perfectly fine.

I again installed openSUSE 13.2 and would like to configure network in the traditional way (ie not network manager). I am puzzled by the above statements like "Despite that, it still works quite well. " and "YaST / ifup. Works perfectly fine."

That was sarcasm - it continues to work very well because it was never removed. I installed a new 13.2 test system only last week I think, works quite well.

I want to be able to disconnect/reconnect the network by one click, like kinternet made it possible in < 13.2 versions. I could not find kinternet/qinternet and smpppd packages either in 13.2 or leap 42 repo. Isn't it possible anymore to control network connection by user by simple clicking?

Sounds like you want NetworkManager. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (16.4°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Per Jessen írta:

Istvan Gabor wrote:

...

Hello:

In January Per Jessen wrote the following, see http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2016-01/msg00252.html:

Per Jessen írta:

...

Istvan Gabor wrote:

...

Hello:

In openSUSE 13.2 the traditional network setup (ifup in yast) was removed

Despite that, it still works quite well.

...

and wicd (??) was introduced which I didn't like when I tried.

I'm not sure there is much to try - wicked runs your network. WHether the interface is ifup or networkmanager.

...

Along with ifup kinternet/qinternet and related packages, eg smpppd (SuSE Meta PPP Daemon, the back-end for kinternet) have been removed too. I am curious how network manager independent network setup occurs in leap 42.1? Does it have kinternet on something similar?

YaST / ifup. Works perfectly fine.

I again installed openSUSE 13.2 and would like to configure network in the traditional way (ie not network manager). I am puzzled by the above statements like "Despite that, it still works quite well. " and "YaST / ifup. Works perfectly fine."

That was sarcasm - it continues to work very well because it was never removed. I installed a new 13.2 test system only last week I think, works quite well.

Still don't understand. I can't find ifup method in yast, I see wicked method instead. Why do you say it wasn't removed?

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I want to be able to disconnect/reconnect the network by one click, like kinternet made it possible in < 13.2 versions. I could not find kinternet/qinternet and smpppd packages either in 13.2 or leap 42 repo. Isn't it possible anymore to control network connection by user by simple clicking?

Sounds like you want NetworkManager.

What I want is this: - To set up network connection as root - I want that regular users cannot edit configured network connection in any way, cannot add, remove or change existing connections - I want that regular users can start and stop connections configured by root. Is this possible with network manager? Can I configure network manager that it wouldn't let a user add new connection at all? How? Thanks, Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 10:27 PM, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:

15.06.2016 22:51, Istvan Gabor пишет:

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What I want is this: - To set up network connection as root - I want that regular users cannot edit configured network connection in any way, cannot add, remove or change existing connections - I want that regular users can start and stop connections configured by root.

Is this possible with network manager? Can I configure network manager that it wouldn't let a user add new connection at all? How?

I would love a NetworkManager that only allowed access to a class of devices. In my case, where all wired interfaces (PCI cards) are handled the traditional way and cannot be modified by NetworkManager, but things like wireless or USB are available in NetworkManager. -- Roger Oberholtzer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 10:27 PM, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:

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15.06.2016 22:51, Istvan Gabor пишет:

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What I want is this: - To set up network connection as root - I want that regular users cannot edit configured network connection in any way, cannot add, remove or change existing connections - I want that regular users can start and stop connections configured by root.

Is this possible with network manager? Can I configure network manager that it wouldn't let a user add new connection at all? How?

I would love a NetworkManager that only allowed access to a class of devices. In my case, where all wired interfaces (PCI cards) are handled the traditional way and cannot be modified by NetworkManager, but things like wireless or USB are available in NetworkManager.

You can exclude interfaces from NM control using unmanaged-devices in NetworkManager.conf. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 8:19 AM, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:

You can exclude interfaces from NM control using unmanaged-devices in NetworkManager.conf.

Thanks for that pointer. As long as I can make generic system-wide rules, I may be able to sort something. Let's see how the documentation for this holds up. And how far back this works (i,e,. 13.1?) -- Roger Oberholtzer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org