[opensuse] "No ReCAPTCHA response provided" error message
I tried to join a mailing list and received "No ReCAPTCHA response provided" message. How does one get Thunderbird, or Firefox to return the desired response? I assume it is Thunderbird, since it is a mailing list. Never hit this one before. Don -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
don fisher composed on 2018-10-23 15:43 (UTC-0700):
I tried to join
Join how, via email, or a web page?
a mailing list
Which mailing list? ? and received "No ReCAPTCHA response I've never heard of captcha applicability to anything other than a web page.
provided" message. How does one get Thunderbird, or Firefox to return the desired response?
Capchas are aggravations at the least, if not pure pain. Which Firefox are you trying with?
I assume it is Thunderbird, since it is a mailing list. Never hit this one before. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science.
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don fisher composed on 2018-10-23 15:43 (UTC-0700):
I tried to join
Join how, via email, or a web page?
a mailing list
Which mailing list?
? and received "No ReCAPTCHA response
I've never heard of captcha applicability to anything other than a web page.
provided" message. How does one get Thunderbird, or Firefox to return the desired response?
Capchas are aggravations at the least, if not pure pain.
Which Firefox are you trying with?
I assume it is Thunderbird, since it is a mailing list. Never hit this one before. sorry, I was a bit dumb here. There was a ReCAPTCHA button on the subscribe page that I failed to energize. I thought that the message was saying my browser was not not providing a response, not that I did not
On 10/23/18 4:13 PM, Felix Miata wrote: provide a response. Don -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Felix Miata wrote:
don fisher composed on 2018-10-23 15:43 (UTC-0700):
I tried to join a mailing list and received "No ReCAPTCHA response
I've never heard of captcha applicability to anything other than a web page.
Ditto.
provided" message. How does one get Thunderbird, or Firefox to return the desired response?
Capchas are aggravations at the least, if not pure pain.
So are robots posting meaningless drivel. The google reCaptcha is not too bad though, at least it is mostly automatic. Anyway, off-topic. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (12.7°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 24/10/2018 10.04, Per Jessen wrote:
Felix Miata wrote:
don fisher composed on 2018-10-23 15:43 (UTC-0700):
I tried to join a mailing list and received "No ReCAPTCHA response
I've never heard of captcha applicability to anything other than a web page.
Ditto.
You can get one on gmail if using Oauth2. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.0 (Legolas))
On 24/10/2018 14.42, James Knott wrote:
On 10/24/2018 06:03 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
You can get one on gmail if using Oauth2.
I use Oauth2 on gmail and have never seen it there.
I have. It is rare but it happens. It puts a bunch of photos and asks me to identify which have a car or a shop. It happens when I move and use a different connection. Oauth2 is interactive, which is why daemons like fetchmail do not support it and refuse to add that support (I asked). -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.0 (Legolas))
Carlos E. R. composed on 2018-10-24 14:56 (UTC+0200):
James Knott wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
You can get one on gmail if using Oauth2.
I use Oauth2 on gmail and have never seen it there.
I have. It is rare but it happens. It puts a bunch of photos and asks me to identify which have a car or a shop.
It happens when I move and use a different connection.
Oauth2 is interactive, which is why daemons like fetchmail do not support it and refuse to add that support (I asked).
How can you be /on/ gmail and not be in a web browser? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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Carlos E. R. composed on 2018-10-24 14:56 (UTC+0200):
James Knott wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
You can get one on gmail if using Oauth2.
I use Oauth2 on gmail and have never seen it there.
I have. It is rare but it happens. It puts a bunch of photos and asks me to identify which have a car or a shop.
It happens when I move and use a different connection.
Oauth2 is interactive, which is why daemons like fetchmail do not support it and refuse to add that support (I asked).
How can you be /on/ gmail and not be in a web browser?
web browser for ?what? I am on gmail with fetchmail to two acc'ts -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 24/10/2018 17.34, Felix Miata wrote:
Carlos E. R. composed on 2018-10-24 14:56 (UTC+0200):
James Knott wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
You can get one on gmail if using Oauth2. I use Oauth2 on gmail and have never seen it there. I have. It is rare but it happens. It puts a bunch of photos and asks me to identify which have a car or a shop. It happens when I move and use a different connection. Oauth2 is interactive, which is why daemons like fetchmail do not support it and refuse to add that support (I asked). How can you be /on/ gmail and not be in a web browser?
See this email - sent from gmail using Thunderbird. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.0 (Legolas))
Carlos E. R. composed on 2018-10-24 18:49 (UTC+0200):
Felix Miata wrote:
Carlos E. R. composed on 2018-10-24 14:56 (UTC+0200):
James Knott wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
You can get one on gmail if using Oauth2.
I use Oauth2 on gmail and have never seen it there.
I have. It is rare but it happens. It puts a bunch of photos and asks me to identify which have a car or a shop. It happens when I move and use a different connection. Oauth2 is interactive, which is why daemons like fetchmail do not support it and refuse to add that support (I asked).
How can you be /on/ gmail and not be in a web browser?
See this email - sent from gmail using Thunderbird.
That's /using/ a gmail account /for/ SMTP, POP, IMAP, fetchmail, etc., not *on* gmail. /On/ gmail looks like http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/gmailInbox201810.jpg https://www.dictionary.com/browse/on #2: "so as to be attached to" (/connected/ to a website) -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 24/10/2018 19.16, Felix Miata wrote:
Carlos E. R. composed on 2018-10-24 18:49 (UTC+0200):
Felix Miata wrote:
Carlos E. R. composed on 2018-10-24 14:56 (UTC+0200):
James Knott wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
You can get one on gmail if using Oauth2.
I use Oauth2 on gmail and have never seen it there.
I have. It is rare but it happens. It puts a bunch of photos and asks me to identify which have a car or a shop. It happens when I move and use a different connection. Oauth2 is interactive, which is why daemons like fetchmail do not support it and refuse to add that support (I asked).
How can you be /on/ gmail and not be in a web browser?
See this email - sent from gmail using Thunderbird.
That's /using/ a gmail account /for/ SMTP, POP, IMAP, fetchmail, etc., not *on* gmail.
/On/ gmail looks like http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/gmailInbox201810.jpg
No. That's gmail's webmail, but there are other methods to be "on gmail" -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith))
Carlos E. R. composed on 2018-10-24 22:43 (UTC+0200):
On 24/10/2018 19.16, Felix Miata wrote:
/On/ gmail looks like http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/gmailInbox201810.jpg
No. That's gmail's webmail,
Exactly, "on" gmail, same as in "on" a web page.
but there are other methods to be "on gmail"
Not for any well-suited definition of "on" taught in the English-only American schools I came through. Your example was "using" gmail service. When you use TB, you're using gmail, not "on" it. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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Carlos E. R. composed on 2018-10-24 22:43 (UTC+0200):
On 24/10/2018 19.16, Felix Miata wrote:
/On/ gmail looks like http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/gmailInbox201810.jpg
No. That's gmail's webmail,
Exactly, "on" gmail, same as in "on" a web page.
but there are other methods to be "on gmail"
Not for any well-suited definition of "on" taught in the English-only American schools I came through. Your example was "using" gmail service. When you use TB, you're using gmail, not "on" it.
since this argument is just for argument's sake :^( neither is correct, neither is actually on gmail. one cannot be "on" gmail as it is a service, not a physical object. why argue just for the sake of argument? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/24/2018 10:16 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
How can you be /on/ gmail and not be in a web browser?
How can you be on the internet and not be using a modem? There's so much slop in adapting english words to internet "locations"/"actions"... My mom who *isn't* computer literate, talks about being "on" things in the computer, whether it is email (outlook) or a web page...etc. And, painfully, calls her desktop, her face page (and she doesn't have a facebook account). How about executing an illegal instruction morphing to input being illegal? That one was beaten to death ~ 10 years ago, so don't hear it as often, but the on stuff...haven't heard as good of arguments against using 'on' to mean using. So excuse me while I go get on a fork and have some food... BTW, google's recaptas suck...take too long, and more frequently don't work based on old browsers or non-google-approved protocols (where the website itself works, but as soon as you use a google "property"... you don't know what will work). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 25/10/2018 22:13, L A Walsh wrote:
BTW, google's recaptas suck...take too long, and more frequently don't work based on old browsers or non-google-approved protocols (where the website itself works, but as soon as you use a google "property"... you don't know what will work).
Are these the "identify all traffic lights/cars/pedestrian crossings" ones? It's building a training database for self-driving cars. In more or less the worst imaginable way. >_< -- Liam Proven - Technical Writer, SUSE Linux s.r.o. Corso II, Křižíkova 148/34, 186-00 Praha 8 - Karlín, Czechia Email: lproven@suse.com - Office telephone: +420 284 241 084 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 24/10/18 12:49 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
See this email - sent from gmail using Thunderbird.
Right. Thunderbird is a tool for manipulating email. Firefox is a tool for reading WEB pages and filling in web forms. The idea of using the web for email is a miscegenation, and no matter what the Supreme Court says, as far as email goes it is an abomination. It is for people who are one step removed from using white-ex on their screens. -- If it is not right, do not do it;if it is not true, do not say it - Marcus Aurelius -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 24/10/2018 20:10, Anton Aylward wrote:
The idea of using the web for email is a miscegenation, and no matter what the Supreme Court says, as far as email goes it is an abomination. It is for people who are one step removed from using white-ex on their screens.
I used to think like that, up until about 12-13 years ago. It was very limiting: although I had a desktop Windows machine, a desktop Linux machine, a desktop Mac and a laptop, I had to access my email only through one of them. I have been using email since 1985. I have had the same primary email address since 1991. I only delete spam and errors. Granted, I lost my message archive several times, back in the era of keeping it on floppies for portability, but I have everything back to 1993. Trying to keep that in sync on multiple machines via IMAP was horrible -- slow, inefficient, and made clients painful to use. Furthermore, IMAP only handles messages, not rules, and I want a graphical rules engine in my client, not a scripting-based one on my server. (This is one of the areas that the FOSS world has signally and totally failed to keep up with Microsoft, and handed MS a huge commercial advantage in business. I am a trained Exchange Server admin, and practised in supporting Outlook, since both were first released. As a result, I cordially despise both of them with passionate intensity. However, they are the best there is or has ever been at what they do, and the FOSS world has nothing that even comes close.) Gmail, in 2004, was a revelation. A webmail client that was better, faster and more convenient than my local one. All my email was accessible on all my machines at once, all the time. Later, it was on my smartphone too. Now, it's synced seamlessly and instantly across 2 smartphones, a tablet, 2 laptops, 4 or 5 desktops running half a dozen OSes, and both my work computers. Everything: messages, rules, address book, diary, the lot, and it's all free of charge, too. I really _wish_ that there was some FOSS service that I could that could offer all this, and synch all the same stuff, and allowed me to use a decent, powerful, current client that was available as a native app for Linux, macOS, Android, iOS and even, reluctantly and regretfully, Windows. But there isn't. There never has been and I have given up hoping that there ever will be. Disclaimer for the distressed and defensive: I am not telling anyone, least of all Anton, that their solution is wrong, or that they should do anything else. I am attempting to explain why it doesn't work for me, and why what I use is better for me. -- Liam Proven - Technical Writer, SUSE Linux s.r.o. Corso II, Křižíkova 148/34, 186-00 Praha 8 - Karlín, Czechia Email: lproven@suse.com - Office telephone: +420 284 241 084 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 25/10/2018 12.07, Liam Proven wrote:
On 24/10/2018 20:10, Anton Aylward wrote:
The idea of using the web for email is a miscegenation, and no matter what the Supreme Court says, as far as email goes it is an abomination. It is for people who are one step removed from using white-ex on their screens.
I used to think like that, up until about 12-13 years ago.
It was very limiting: although I had a desktop Windows machine, a desktop Linux machine, a desktop Mac and a laptop, I had to access my email only through one of them.
I have been using email since 1985. I have had the same primary email address since 1991. I only delete spam and errors. Granted, I lost my message archive several times, back in the era of keeping it on floppies for portability, but I have everything back to 1993.
Trying to keep that in sync on multiple machines via IMAP was horrible -- slow, inefficient, and made clients painful to use. Furthermore, IMAP only handles messages, not rules, and I want a graphical rules engine in my client, not a scripting-based one on my server.
(This is one of the areas that the FOSS world has signally and totally failed to keep up with Microsoft, and handed MS a huge commercial advantage in business. I am a trained Exchange Server admin, and practised in supporting Outlook, since both were first released. As a result, I cordially despise both of them with passionate intensity. However, they are the best there is or has ever been at what they do, and the FOSS world has nothing that even comes close.)
Gmail, in 2004, was a revelation. A webmail client that was better, faster and more convenient than my local one. All my email was accessible on all my machines at once, all the time. Later, it was on my smartphone too. Now, it's synced seamlessly and instantly across 2 smartphones, a tablet, 2 laptops, 4 or 5 desktops running half a dozen OSes, and both my work computers. Everything: messages, rules, address book, diary, the lot, and it's all free of charge, too.
I really _wish_ that there was some FOSS service that I could that could offer all this, and synch all the same stuff, and allowed me to use a decent, powerful, current client that was available as a native app for Linux, macOS, Android, iOS and even, reluctantly and regretfully, Windows.
But there isn't. There never has been and I have given up hoping that there ever will be.
Disclaimer for the distressed and defensive:
I am not telling anyone, least of all Anton, that their solution is wrong, or that they should do anything else.
I am attempting to explain why it doesn't work for me, and why what I use is better for me.
But IMAP with Thundenbird, or anything, does sync across many machines. Arguably, webmail is just another IMAP client. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.0 (Legolas))
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But IMAP with Thundenbird, or anything, does sync across many machines.
It only syncs messages. It doesn't sync rules, or address books, or calendars. I get at least hundreds, sometimes thousands of emails a day. Without rules to sort them into folders, email would be unusable. - -- Liam Proven - Technical Writer, SUSE Linux s.r.o. Corso II, Křižíkova 148/34, 186-00 Praha 8 - Karlín, Czechia Email: lproven@suse.com - Office telephone: +420 284 241 084 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEeNZxWlZYyNg7I0pvkm4MJhv0VBYFAlvRp8QACgkQkm4MJhv0 VBY2HRAAngAjBpIX94vr1tjrhWM8kE2t8W3md/iHxH2Z15mBc8lur8I6U4Ldx0da gWVSRSX5gVdN2i6NnsuXQhXhn9BnWoPzCGwhgfMeNVw2U2OkTRWuYBXgApACm9JY nURSbf9X0SJg1Fj0TfoWu/XirJtf4LtF80IQ+GQ659r/05hRDfvisGFFBI0V9yZH i6iI4Rhfp6FUUbY6zo26TexQ6EyLwuBK5CKA1ap7B2sm/4H2nmYM9WXDNd7TBN9p 7I2+tR/lSY/nomJhLHi7jtI8SPrRb1KPvDq5w7Vm7YsPZACz5fkNNWPCPhVrFX8T j6uO8t7B4hLQ8M6Z2NtKYcxAVOtAa/8zKts89m3z91/ByBxEm8gWXDuz0Ic41qN7 Rnpbz9qI8qh271bUtjCKwubGuW3a1kdfPI7xYLxBF6T3J4BcjDaB2zw1XzJqOs37 DFAS066x8jquq9Ee8yR2dRylxOtzb+jxkNKjUtcu6MIq3ABxKbqawQgAHu8xbBOl VhGR66HbBxfm5Xeje6IRNJBVT652wp7II3NeMFPAA0No39mkA7/0ib4BBG8MGPz6 iAcTqoSYtjmQQvjNPM3uDR5gsTIr7Uhw8JZmjU+jibSj3qYo0kodMje4pTwxu3S6 2sdWXqhN6kLWN/+gglb8Cst0XnsT/CweESwiKQL4JYmJcaQ5LuM= =Vrvu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/25/2018 07:23 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
It only syncs messages. It doesn't sync rules, or address books, or calendars.
Actually, my devices do sync calendars and contacts. I have my email clients configured to sync with the Google servers. I can access my contacts and calendar from every device I have, including smart phone and tablet. I've been doing that for years. Email clients, such as Thunderbird or Seamonkey require an add-on to do that though. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 25/10/2018 15.17, James Knott wrote:
On 10/25/2018 07:23 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
It only syncs messages. It doesn't sync rules, or address books, or calendars.
Actually, my devices do sync calendars and contacts. I have my email clients configured to sync with the Google servers. I can access my contacts and calendar from every device I have, including smart phone and tablet. I've been doing that for years. Email clients, such as Thunderbird or Seamonkey require an add-on to do that though.
How do you sync the contact list? I'm curious. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.0 (Legolas))
On 10/25/2018 01:27 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 25/10/2018 15.17, James Knott wrote:
On 10/25/2018 07:23 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
It only syncs messages. It doesn't sync rules, or address books, or calendars.
Actually, my devices do sync calendars and contacts. I have my email clients configured to sync with the Google servers. I can access my contacts and calendar from every device I have, including smart phone and tablet. I've been doing that for years. Email clients, such as Thunderbird or Seamonkey require an add-on to do that though. How do you sync the contact list? I'm curious.
An add-on called "gContactSync". I also use "Provider for Google Calendar" to sync my calendar. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 25/10/2018 19.30, James Knott wrote:
On 10/25/2018 01:27 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 25/10/2018 15.17, James Knott wrote:
On 10/25/2018 07:23 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
It only syncs messages. It doesn't sync rules, or address books, or calendars.
Actually, my devices do sync calendars and contacts. I have my email clients configured to sync with the Google servers. I can access my contacts and calendar from every device I have, including smart phone and tablet. I've been doing that for years. Email clients, such as Thunderbird or Seamonkey require an add-on to do that though. How do you sync the contact list? I'm curious.
An add-on called "gContactSync". I also use "Provider for Google Calendar" to sync my calendar.
Yes, calendar sync I use since some years; contacts I did not know about. I have added it now and tried. Contacts are synced, but I do not know if I'll keep it activated or not, it may be excesive for me. I have not seen if it can keep different contact lists for each mail account? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.0 (Legolas))
On 10/25/2018 06:07 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
Trying to keep that in sync on multiple machines via IMAP was horrible -- slow, inefficient, and made clients painful to use. Furthermore, IMAP only handles messages, not rules, and I want a graphical rules engine in my client, not a scripting-based one on my server.
I also don't care for web mail. I only use it when I don't have a choice to use an email client. Given that I now carry a smart phone with an email client, that's no longer an issue. As for IMAP, I've been using it for years and not had an issue with syncing mail. It just works. As for rules, I have them configured on my main desktop system, which is running all the time. Regardless, a rule on any client affects all mail. I use IMAP because it just works and works well. What I completely fail to understand is when people, who should know better, insist on using POP on multiple clients. Now that's a headache! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 25/10/2018 15:10, James Knott wrote:
As for rules, I have them configured on my main desktop system, which is running all the time.
So you have a single main computer, which presumably only runs 1 OS, or only 1 that you have email on. I don't. I'm often away from home, and sometimes when I am at home, I'm not using my "main" computer but a different one. -- Liam Proven - Technical Writer, SUSE Linux s.r.o. Corso II, Křižíkova 148/34, 186-00 Praha 8 - Karlín, Czechia Email: lproven@suse.com - Office telephone: +420 284 241 084 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/25/2018 09:19 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
So you have a single main computer, which presumably only runs 1 OS, or only 1 that you have email on.
I have a main computer, which I leave running all the time. I also have a notebook computer, as well as tablet and smart phone. In the past I have also configured my personal email on a work computer. All were configured with IMAP
I don't. I'm often away from home, and sometimes when I am at home, I'm not using my "main" computer but a different one.
Me too and often use my notebook computer or smart phone for email. I could also my tablet, but generally don't. I also have Windows 10 virtual machines on my desktop and notebook. I have both Thunderbird and Seamonkey on my computers and VMs. In short I have several email clients to choose from and they are all in sync WRT email, calendar and contacts. I can even use webmail! ;-) So, if I find myself away from not only home, but also notebook computer, tablet and smart phone, then I would use webmail. Other than that I prefer to avoid it, as I find proper email clients tend to work better. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 25/10/2018 15:32, James Knott wrote:
In short I have several email clients to choose from and they are all in sync WRT email, calendar and contacts. I can even use webmail! ;-)
:-) Well, OK. If it works well for you, good for you. I have 126 folders -- just counted them, for you -- aside from the built-in ones. They contain 15.56 GB of emails. Pre-2004 email is archived separately, in Thunderbird. There's another 6GB there. With that much, I find email clients never sync up properly. I can leave them running for a month and they can't ever get up to date.
So, if I find myself away from not only home, but also notebook computer, tablet and smart phone, then I would use webmail. Other than that I prefer to avoid it, as I find proper email clients tend to work better.
I used to. Now, I mostly find them more trouble than they're worth. I use T'bird at work and it works fairly well, but interacts badly with Groupwise and marks folders as all read all the time. I filed a bug but they can't reproduce it. However, my home archive has 1000× as much stuff, probably 10,000× or more. One of these days I'll upgrade to paid Gmail and migrate the old stuff in from Thunderbird for searching purposes. -- Liam Proven - Technical Writer, SUSE Linux s.r.o. Corso II, Křižíkova 148/34, 186-00 Praha 8 - Karlín, Czechia Email: lproven@suse.com - Office telephone: +420 284 241 084 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/25/2018 10:01 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
With that much, I find email clients never sync up properly. I can leave them running for a month and they can't ever get up to date.
I also have large amounts of email in many folders. One option that works well for other than the main system is to download only the headers, until you actually want to read the message. This will greatly reduce the traffic. If you have a main system, you may want to have it download the entire message immediately. I don't know why you're having problems, as I have used IMAP at home for years, with multiple servers and also set up an IMAP server at work. Never had a problem with it. It just works. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 25/10/2018 16.01, Liam Proven wrote:
On 25/10/2018 15:32, James Knott wrote:
In short I have several email clients to choose from and they are all in sync WRT email, calendar and contacts. I can even use webmail! ;-)
:-)
Well, OK. If it works well for you, good for you.
I have 126 folders -- just counted them, for you -- aside from the built-in ones. They contain 15.56 GB of emails.
Pre-2004 email is archived separately, in Thunderbird. There's another 6GB there.
With that much, I find email clients never sync up properly. I can leave them running for a month and they can't ever get up to date.
I find Thunderbird has problems syncing with gmail if there are many emails, but not with dovecot on my local network. Gmail is simply slow as molasses and not standard. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.0 (Legolas))
* Liam Proven
On 25/10/2018 15:10, James Knott wrote:
As for rules, I have them configured on my main desktop system, which is running all the time.
So you have a single main computer, which presumably only runs 1 OS, or only 1 that you have email on.
I don't. I'm often away from home, and sometimes when I am at home, I'm not using my "main" computer but a different one.
I have my mail/calendar/... on my home server and access it from anywhere I can get connected. and carry a usb stick which will provide access from another unwanted operating system. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/25/2018 09:34 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
I have my mail/calendar/... on my home server and access it from anywhere I can get connected. and carry a usb stick which will provide access from another unwanted operating system.
I have my own domain on the gmail servers. So, I can access my mail and calendar without having to carry it separately. Also, how often does that USB stick get updated? I can update my calendar and contacts from my smart phone or tablet. In fact, when booking a future appointment while at the dentist or doctor, I'll often comment that the appointment is already on my home computer, before I'm done talking to the receptionist. ;-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* James Knott
On 10/25/2018 09:34 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
I have my mail/calendar/... on my home server and access it from anywhere I can get connected. and carry a usb stick which will provide access from another unwanted operating system.
I have my own domain on the gmail servers. So, I can access my mail and calendar without having to carry it separately. Also, how often does that USB stick get updated? I can update my calendar and contacts from my smart phone or tablet. In fact, when booking a future appointment while at the dentist or doctor, I'll often comment that the appointment is already on my home computer, before I'm done talking to the receptionist. ;-)
the "stick" contains an operating system, not data. I update it when I feel like it or when it seems to present problems (none that I can remember, but i do have old-timer-s). -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/23/2018 07:13 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
Capchas are aggravations at the least, if not pure pain.
I've come across a couple where they don't tell you what you're supposed to be looking for! =-O -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 24/10/2018 00.43, don fisher wrote:
I tried to join a mailing list and received "No ReCAPTCHA response provided" message. How does one get Thunderbird, or Firefox to return the desired response? I assume it is Thunderbird, since it is a mailing list. Never hit this one before.
You should know what program you are running, firefox or thunderbird. 99 to 1 it is firefox. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.0 (Legolas))
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