Sometimes when I run YaST I will see no items in the updates frame that are checked. However, when I have nothing checked and hit the accept button, I might still get a patch. Today was one of those cases. There was an update to pine and it didn't show up on the list. However, when I hit "Accept" it got it and installed it. Well, that's great that it was installed, but why didn't it show up in the list? -Michael