Hello List
Updated my system yesterday from 15.2 to 15.3. Basically the update went just fine, buuuut all cyrus-imapd binaries are gone!!! Thought I've read the release notes and understood under Point: 3.2.1 Berkeley DB removed from packages So, is in SUSE Terms cyrus-sasl = cyrus-imapd. If so, bad luck for me and I'm sorry for my ignorance. If not, wasn't it worth spend one sentence in the release note that cyrus-imapd will be removed as well? And even better all cyrus-sasl thingy's are still available/installed on my system. And yes there are still people out using openSUSE as a mailserver WITH cyrus.
Second question i have. Is it save to use the "sle" repostitories showing up after the updates since I have no intention to make a sles server out of my openSUSE.
# | Alias | Name | Enabled | GPG Check | Refresh | URI --+-----------------------------------+---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+---------+-----------+---------+------------------------------------------------------------------ 1 | repo-${releasever}-non-oss | openSUSE-15.3 Non-OSS | Yes | (r ) Yes | No | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.3/repo/non-oss/ 2 | repo-${releasever}-oss | openSUSE-15.3 OSS | Yes | (r ) Yes | No | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.3/repo/oss/ 3 | repo-${releasever}-update-non-oss | openSUSE-15.3 Updates Non-OSS | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/15.3/non-oss/ 4 | repo-${releasever}-update-oss | openSUSE-15.3 Updates OSS | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/15.3/oss/ 5 | repo-backports-debug-update | Update repository with updates for openSUSE Leap debuginfo packages from openSUSE Backports | No | ---- | ---- | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/15.3/backports_debug/ 6 | repo-backports-update | Update repository of openSUSE Backports | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/15.3/backports/ 7 | repo-sle-debug-update | Update repository with debuginfo for updates from SUSE Linux Enterprise 15 | No | ---- | ---- | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/leap/15.3/sle/ 8 | repo-sle-update | Update repository with updates from SUSE Linux Enterprise 15 | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/15.3/sle/
Thank you and best regards J.
On 30.10.2021 09:37, Joerg Rohrer wrote:
Hello List
Updated my system yesterday from 15.2 to 15.3. Basically the update went just fine, buuuut all cyrus-imapd binaries are gone!!! Thought I've read the release notes and understood under Point: 3.2.1 Berkeley DB removed from packages So, is in SUSE Terms cyrus-sasl = cyrus-imapd. If so, bad luck for me and I'm sorry for my ignorance. If not, wasn't it worth spend one sentence in the release note that cyrus-imapd will be removed as well?
Open bug report.
And even better all cyrus-sasl thingy's are still available/installed on my system. And yes there are still people out using openSUSE as a mailserver WITH cyrus.
Then someone should step up as maintainer. Cyrus-imapd was removed from Factory/Tumbleweed two years ago because it failed to build.
# osc log -D openSUSE:Factory cyrus-imapd ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- r75 | dimstar_suse | 2019-11-04 16:00:34 | fe18a5e696482738b6326d98976ea23b | 2.4.20 | rq742758
[botdel] Package has failed to build for >= 6 weeks
In the meantime you may probably install it from
https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/server:mail/cyrus-imapd
(at least, build status is OK for Leap 15.3).
Second question i have. Is it save to use the "sle" repostitories showing up after the updates since I have no intention to make a sles server out of my openSUSE.
Leap 15.3 is mostly reusing SLE binaries, so it is not only "safe", it is "necessary" (or even "mandatory") to get updates.
# | Alias | Name | Enabled | GPG Check | Refresh | URI --+-----------------------------------+---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+---------+-----------+---------+------------------------------------------------------------------
1 | repo-${releasever}-non-oss | openSUSE-15.3 Non-OSS | Yes | (r ) Yes | No | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.3/repo/non-oss/ 2 | repo-${releasever}-oss | openSUSE-15.3 OSS | Yes | (r ) Yes | No | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.3/repo/oss/ 3 | repo-${releasever}-update-non-oss | openSUSE-15.3 Updates Non-OSS | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/15.3/non-oss/ 4 | repo-${releasever}-update-oss | openSUSE-15.3 Updates OSS | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/15.3/oss/ 5 | repo-backports-debug-update | Update repository with updates for openSUSE Leap debuginfo packages from openSUSE Backports | No | ---- | ---- | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/15.3/backports_debug/ 6 | repo-backports-update | Update repository of openSUSE Backports | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/15.3/backports/ 7 | repo-sle-debug-update | Update repository with debuginfo for updates from SUSE Linux Enterprise 15 | No | ---- | ---- | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/leap/15.3/sle/ 8 | repo-sle-update | Update repository with updates from SUSE Linux Enterprise 15 | Yes | (r ) Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/15.3/sle/
Thank you and best regards J.
Thank you Andrei
Updated my system yesterday from 15.2 to 15.3. Basically the update went just fine, buuuut all cyrus-imapd binaries are gone!!! Thought I've read the release notes and understood under Point: 3.2.1 Berkeley DB removed from packages So, is in SUSE Terms cyrus-sasl = cyrus-imapd. If so, bad luck for me and I'm sorry for my ignorance. If not, wasn't it worth spend one sentence in the release note that cyrus-imapd will be removed as well?
Open bug report.
This is done. http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1192180
And even better all cyrus-sasl thingy's are still available/installed on my system. And yes there are still people out using openSUSE as a mailserver WITH cyrus.
Then someone should step up as maintainer. Cyrus-imapd was removed from Factory/Tumbleweed two years ago because it failed to build.
# osc log -D openSUSE:Factory cyrus-imapd
r75 | dimstar_suse | 2019-11-04 16:00:34 | fe18a5e696482738b6326d98976ea23b | 2.4.20 | rq742758
[botdel] Package has failed to build for >= 6 weeks
In the meantime you may probably install it from
took the rpms from the 15.2 repo as standalone download. it works so fa. hopefully cyrus stay on the system next time i zypper up/dup.
https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/server:mail/cyrus-imapd
(at least, build status is OK for Leap 15.3).
Second question i have. Is it save to use the "sle" repostitories showing up after the updates since I have no intention to make a sles server out of my openSUSE.
Leap 15.3 is mostly reusing SLE binaries, so it is not only "safe", it is "necessary" (or even "mandatory") to get updates.
got it. was just confused about the naming.
br J.
And pingo...zypper wants to uninstall again. Can any body tell me ho to stop this behavior? Will update the bugreport as well.
myhost:~/bin # zypper dup Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Warning: You are about to do a distribution upgrade with all enabled repositories. Make sure these repositories are compatible before you continue. See 'man zypper' for more information about this command. Computing distribution upgrade...
The following 7 packages are going to be REMOVED: cyradm cyrus-imapd docker-libnetwork docker-runc perl-Cyrus-IMAP perl-Cyrus-SIEVE-managesieve yast2-qt-branding-openSUSE
br J.
On 30-10-2021 17:09, Joerg Rohrer wrote:
Thank you Andrei
Updated my system yesterday from 15.2 to 15.3. Basically the update went just fine, buuuut all cyrus-imapd binaries are gone!!! Thought I've read the release notes and understood under Point: 3.2.1 Berkeley DB removed from packages So, is in SUSE Terms cyrus-sasl = cyrus-imapd. If so, bad luck for me and I'm sorry for my ignorance. If not, wasn't it worth spend one sentence in the release note that cyrus-imapd will be removed as well?
Open bug report.
This is done. http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1192180
And even better all cyrus-sasl thingy's are still available/installed on my system. And yes there are still people out using openSUSE as a mailserver WITH cyrus.
Then someone should step up as maintainer. Cyrus-imapd was removed from Factory/Tumbleweed two years ago because it failed to build.
# osc log -D openSUSE:Factory cyrus-imapd
r75 | dimstar_suse | 2019-11-04 16:00:34 | fe18a5e696482738b6326d98976ea23b | 2.4.20 | rq742758
[botdel] Package has failed to build for >= 6 weeks
In the meantime you may probably install it from
took the rpms from the 15.2 repo as standalone download. it works so fa. hopefully cyrus stay on the system next time i zypper up/dup.
https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/server:mail/cyrus-imapd
(at least, build status is OK for Leap 15.3).
Second question i have. Is it save to use the "sle" repostitories showing up after the updates since I have no intention to make a sles server out of my openSUSE.
Leap 15.3 is mostly reusing SLE binaries, so it is not only "safe", it is "necessary" (or even "mandatory") to get updates.
got it. was just confused about the naming.
br J.
On 30.10.2021 18:32, Joerg Rohrer wrote:
And pingo...zypper wants to uninstall again. Can any body tell me ho to stop this behavior?
Do not use "dup" to update stable releases. This is expected behavior.
Will update the bugreport as well.
It is not a bug. This is long standing behavior on "zypper dup".
myhost:~/bin # zypper dup Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Warning: You are about to do a distribution upgrade with all enabled repositories. Make sure these repositories are compatible before you continue. See 'man zypper' for more information about this command. Computing distribution upgrade...
The following 7 packages are going to be REMOVED: cyradm cyrus-imapd docker-libnetwork docker-runc perl-Cyrus-IMAP perl-Cyrus-SIEVE-managesieve yast2-qt-branding-openSUSE
https://build.opensuse.org/source/openSUSE:Leap:15.3/000release-packages/wea...
List of packages that zypper dup will remove.
On Sat, 30 Oct 2021 18:43:01 +0300 Andrei Borzenkov arvidjaar@gmail.com wrote:
https://build.opensuse.org/source/openSUSE:Leap:15.3/000release-packages/wea...
List of packages that zypper dup will remove.
For some reason the list seems to be a state secret :(
It requires a login to see.
On 10/31/21 02:20, Dave Howorth wrote:
On Sat, 30 Oct 2021 18:43:01 +0300 Andrei Borzenkov arvidjaar@gmail.com wrote:
https://build.opensuse.org/source/openSUSE:Leap:15.3/000release-packages/wea...
List of packages that zypper dup will remove.
For some reason the list seems to be a state secret :(
It requires a login to see.
obs has always required an account to download files, which is what the above link does, unfortunately for some reason obs see's that file as a binary and won't show it in the webui (which is probably a bug).
On 30-10-2021 17:43, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
On 30.10.2021 18:32, Joerg Rohrer wrote:
And pingo...zypper wants to uninstall again. Can any body tell me ho to stop this behavior?
Do not use "dup" to update stable releases. This is expected behavior.
tnx, will stop using dup
Will update the bugreport as well.
It is not a bug. This is long standing behavior on "zypper dup".
not said this is also bug. just updated the bugreport since i didn't knew.:)
myhost:~/bin # zypper dup Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Warning: You are about to do a distribution upgrade with all enabled repositories. Make sure these repositories are compatible before you continue. See 'man zypper' for more information about this command. Computing distribution upgrade...
The following 7 packages are going to be REMOVED: cyradm cyrus-imapd docker-libnetwork docker-runc perl-Cyrus-IMAP perl-Cyrus-SIEVE-managesieve yast2-qt-branding-openSUSE
https://build.opensuse.org/source/openSUSE:Leap:15.3/000release-packages/wea...
List of packages that zypper dup will remove.
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