Anton Aylward írta:
On 08/27/2014 07:08 PM, Istvan Gabor wrote:
"Carlos E. R." írta:
On 2014-08-28 00:35, Istvan Gabor wrote:
So we don't have either adobe reader or kpdf in openSUSE 13.1 by the default KDE4 or gnome. Does openSUSES 13.1 have a pdf viewer that works as good as adobe reader or kpdf?
There are different selection modes in okular. Try a different mode.
Yes, after selecting the text by drawing a rectangular I have to choose from either select text or select image copy to clipboard. I do select text copy to clipboard. The copied text becomes a mess.
pasting text from some PDF files is actually very difficult.
Yes, but not in kdfp (last stable version 6 years ago). It works perfectly.
maybe I'm misinterpreting but ... Yes, you are seriously misinterpreting and misexplaining.
So I create a document using openlibre and export that as a PDF. First, someone else sent me the document, so I have no influence on how it is created. Second, not openlibre (I don't know what it is) but Adobe InDesign CS3 (5.0) is the creator according to the file properties info.
I open the PDF with okular and use the text tool (clt-F4) and swipe over some text. I did not know about this option. I used the default one which selection tool according to the tooltip. When I click it, another tooltip saying "Draw a rectangle aroudnthe text/graphics to copy." Accordig to this info this tool should copy text. By the way, this is the same protocol so far as in kpdf. After selecting the text by drawing the rectangle I can select either a) text copy to clipboard or b) image copy to clipboard. Funnily I selected "text copy to clipboard".
oh, wait, its selecting text just like in a word processor and not, as Istvan says, drawing a rectangle. I'm using the text tool and not the 'selection tool'.
In the meantime I looked into this selection tool thing and found in the tools menu the different selection options. I did not use this before. If I select text selection tool and select text it is not at all like selecting text in a word processor. I have then at least 20 green colored boxes with different sizes, when they overlap the color is darker green. There are several overlaps, at least 10.
I open another text window. Lets be dumb, lets make that vim, and paste that selected text in. It goes in with the same line breaks, not 'one word per line'.
I do have it also with some other pdf documents. The result of the copy/paste is absolutely independent from which tool, the text selection tool, or the selection tool is used for copying the text.
Now, I freely grant that this is a biased test. Yes, if you mean your test, your rigth, it is a biased test.
it is not some J. Q. Random piece of PDF off the net, not one produced by that dread tool, Microsoft Word. I've seen what kind of HTML that produces and can dread the PDF.
I even can not comprehend this.
Even given this I've never had the kind of problems Istvan describes, though I do recall, vaguely, some one-word-per-line from some document, one I did not produce.
Now I've just gone back to the same PDF document, the one I personally produced with LibreOffice, and used the 'selection tool' to select a region that includes some text. But its a rectangle, possibly a bitmap, who knows.
Well actually I'm offered a menu. I can paste to clipboard as text or I can paste to clipboard as bitmap.
It looks like okular has smarts that I never suspected. ??? This feature is from kpdf. It seems you never used kpdf to copy text from pdf files.
So when it comes down to actually looking at how it works, Sorry Istvan, I think you're blowing smoke on this one. Or possibly having finger troubles. Or I'm doing something different from you. This does not worth a comment.
Anyway, I'm getting sick of people saying how great KDE3 was and how it can do things that KDE4 can't and hence the old is better than the new. If you really believe that then dig out that huge and hot PDP-11/55 and run UNIX V6 one it. BTDT and I'm glad I'm running Linux on a box that I can fir in my briefcase and still have room for my lunch. Oh, AND fit my Android tablet in! This does not worth a comment either.
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