Am 16.07.2017 um 15:39 schrieb michael norman:
On 16/07/17 09:47, Richard Brown wrote:
The opensuse@opensuse.org is meant to be a support mailinglist for the openSUSE distributions.
No one is being helped by the continuation of this thread or other ones like it.
I respectfully request that the discussion of this topic ends and all of the people involved do not create, continue, or restart any discussion about the pros or cons of systemd on this mailinglist again.
Discussions that seek to practically help people with systemd issues are of course perfectly fine, but it is unacceptable to suggest removal of systemd on this list when it has been the only supported init system for months.
Religious discussions about whether systemd is good, or bad, do not help anyone. Take them off our support & development mailinglists.
Failure to comply with my above request, will lead to my recommendation to the openSUSE Board that we consider banning the people ignoring this request. If this is anything more than 2 or 3 people, I will actually consider recommending that the Board discuss removing this entire mailinglist, because I am sick of having to explain to new community members that opensuse@opensuse.org was once a support mailinglist but no longer serves that purpose effectively as it now has far, far too much commentary & techno-nonsense religion discussions by people who love to complain but not contribute.
So, consider this a warning. I'm fed of up reading this nonsense and I will work hard to ensure that it stops if the attendees of this list do not make an effort to end it. Now.
Regards, Richard Brown openSUSE Chairman
You do that and you can say goodbye to me a SUSE user since 5.0 days.
I've never contributed much so my loss won't mean much. But if your view prevails I'm gone.
M
Yes, it's sad that Mr. Brown acts like a medieval grandpa. Me neither likes useless discussions, and - except right now - I usually don't participate. When I see a thread drifting away I just ignore it. The few bytes wasted: who cares!
While I agree that sometimes there are threads that for my personal opinion are unnecessary, I still learn a lot here, receive help and, in very rare occasions, even could help myself.
But we have Mr. Zuckerberg telling us what is morally correct and what not (violence vs nipples), we have google terrorizing us with its censorship and scandalous valuation of what is worth showing and what not, we have the trump thing telling us what is true and what is fake news, and now we have Mr. Brown telling us, that good is what he likes and bad is what others think - and threatening the community to follow his taste in a tone that is absolutely inadequate.
This not what I want to read. It's a f***ing rant just any other one, just in an even more unfriendly tone. We are not your children, you are not our legal guardian, and if you were, you should search for some help about modern educational methods.