* Oddball <monkey9@iae.nl> [11-20-12 10:58]: ...
Yeah, well don't take it all too serious... i have a headache already..
well, headaches are not nice...
You say i should read manuals, and not come here,
no-one has offered that. Reading the manuals is *part* of it, and coming here is *part* of it, but *only* coming here is "not it"!
but at the same time you argue about things beside the point.
Hard not to following your discorse :^) But where is agrument not to the point?
The reason for wanting to know the answer quicker was that i wanted to capture output, which was there, and i do not know how to reproduce. Next thing i want to know is how to reproduce the output... because i had to reboot due to very sluggish system.. and the output doesn't start by itself.. probably an easy command which i do not know yet... There were things about the firewall, and about wifi that i wanted to know, because there are issues with it.
Doing it *all* an one time makes for confusion. Accomplish one task at a time and move to the next. Which also entails "following directions".
I ask things that i want to know to add some maybe, relevant output, to be able to investigate where the issue comes from, or something else that can be known through it. 122 is different from all predecessors. and 123 even more.
as are *every* other distro and version, and that is how "it will be" in the future.
It might be helpfull to track some things 'before' they happen. We all know 123, or factory is a mess due to the changes to get systemd controlling things instead of sysv, iirc.
no, not a *mess* but certainly different and a "learning experience".
I just heard suspend is broken on factory due to systemd, and networkmanager is not yet adapted fully, so it is still messy, but seems to start happening on my 122. Maybe it has nothing to do with it, maybe it has.
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