will copy the printcap file at bottom of this message for review.

I'm having problems getting prints jobs to print. Had it working with 2 different hp laserjets 4000 . had 2 different queues setup for the 2 printers. then i tried to add another one for an hp lj 4plus.
i get this error now when i try to print to any of the printers :
jobs queued, but can not start ddaemon.

i do ps aux
an find the lpd pids an kill them, there are two in the list
then lpd an it will print one of the jobs to the hp4000, but not the one i sent to the hp4's queue.
i can send the printcap file if anyone thinkgs that will help in determing the problem.
it seems that it will print whats in the queue then for some reason dies til i kill the pids an restart lpd


printcap file:

### BEGIN apsfilter: ### remote 192.168.1.191 HP4000_off HP4000off ###
#   Warning: Configured for apsfilter, do not edit the labels!
#            apsfilter setup Wed Aug 15 08:23:04 CDT 2001
#
HP4000off|lp1|192.168.1.191-HP4000_off-HP4000off|192.168.1.191 HP4000_off:\
        :lp=:\
        :rm=192.168.1.191:\
        :rp=HP4000_off:\
        :sd=/var/spool/lpd/192.168.1.191-HP4000_off-HP4000off:\
        :lf=/var/spool/lpd/192.168.1.191-HP4000_off-HP4000off/log:\
        :af=/var/spool/lpd/192.168.1.191-HP4000_off-HP4000off/acct:\
        :ar:bk:mx#0:\
        :tr=:cl:sh:
#
### END   apsfilter: ### remote 192.168.1.191 HP4000_off HP4000off ###
### BEGIN apsfilter: ### /etc/gs.upp/y2prn_HP4000_off.upp HP4000_off ###
#   Warning: Configured for apsfilter, do not edit the labels!
#            apsfilter setup Wed Aug 15 08:23:04 CDT 2001
#
HP4000_off-ascii|lp2|y2prn_HP4000_off.upp--ascii-HP4000_off|y2prn_HP4000_off.upp ascii:\
        :lp=/dev/null:\
        :sd=/var/spool/lpd/y2prn_HP4000_off.upp--ascii-HP4000_off:\
        :lf=/var/spool/lpd/y2prn_HP4000_off.upp--ascii-HP4000_off/log:\
        :af=/var/spool/lpd/y2prn_HP4000_off.upp--ascii-HP4000_off/acct:\
        :if=/var/lib/apsfilter/bin/y2prn_HP4000_off.upp--ascii-HP4000_off:\
        :la@:mx#0:\
        :tr=:cl:sh:
#
HP4000_off|lp3|y2prn_HP4000_off.upp--auto-HP4000_off|y2prn_HP4000_off.upp auto:\
        :lp=/dev/null:\
        :sd=/var/spool/lpd/y2prn_HP4000_off.upp--auto-HP4000_off:\
        :lf=/var/spool/lpd/y2prn_HP4000_off.upp--auto-HP4000_off/log:\
        :af=/var/spool/lpd/y2prn_HP4000_off.upp--auto-HP4000_off/acct:\
        :if=/var/lib/apsfilter/bin/y2prn_HP4000_off.upp--auto-HP4000_off:\
        :la@:mx#0:\
        :tr=:cl:sh:
#
HP4000_off-raw|lp4|y2prn_HP4000_off.upp--raw-HP4000_off|y2prn_HP4000_off.upp raw:\
        :lp=/dev/null:\
        :sd=/var/spool/lpd/y2prn_HP4000_off.upp--raw-HP4000_off:\
        :lf=/var/spool/lpd/y2prn_HP4000_off.upp--raw-HP4000_off/log:\
        :af=/var/spool/lpd/y2prn_HP4000_off.upp--raw-HP4000_off/acct:\
        :if=/var/lib/apsfilter/bin/y2prn_HP4000_off.upp--raw-HP4000_off:\
        :la@:mx#0:\
        :tr=:cl:sh:
#
### END   apsfilter: ### /etc/gs.upp/y2prn_HP4000_off.upp HP4000_off ###
### BEGIN apsfilter: ### remote 192.168.1.190 HP4000_quality hp4000quality ###
#   Warning: Configured for apsfilter, do not edit the labels!
#            apsfilter setup Wed Aug 15 08:23:07 CDT 2001
#
hp4000quality|lp5|192.168.1.190-HP4000_quality-hp4000quality|192.168.1.190 HP4000_quality:\
        :lp=:\
        :rm=192.168.1.190:\
        :rp=HP4000_quality:\
        :sd=/var/spool/lpd/192.168.1.190-HP4000_quality-hp4000quality:\
        :lf=/var/spool/lpd/192.168.1.190-HP4000_quality-hp4000quality/log:\
        :af=/var/spool/lpd/192.168.1.190-HP4000_quality-hp4000quality/acct:\
        :ar:bk:mx#0:\
        :tr=:cl:sh:
#
### END   apsfilter: ### remote 192.168.1.190 HP4000_quality hp4000quality ###
### BEGIN apsfilter: ### /etc/gs.upp/y2prn_HP4000_quality.upp HP4000_quality ###
#   Warning: Configured for apsfilter, do not edit the labels!
#            apsfilter setup Wed Aug 15 08:23:08 CDT 2001
#
HP4000_quality-ascii|lp6|y2prn_HP4000_quality.upp--ascii-HP4000_quality|y2prn_HP4000_quality.upp ascii:\
        :lp=/dev/null:\
        :sd=/var/spool/lpd/y2prn_HP4000_quality.upp--ascii-HP4000_quality:\
        :lf=/var/spool/lpd/y2prn_HP4000_quality.upp--ascii-HP4000_quality/log:\
        :af=/var/spool/lpd/y2prn_HP4000_quality.upp--ascii-HP4000_quality/acct:\
        :if=/var/lib/apsfilter/bin/y2prn_HP4000_quality.upp--ascii-HP4000_quality:\
        :la@:mx#0:\
        :tr=:cl:sh:
#
HP4000_quality|lp7|y2prn_HP4000_quality.upp--auto-HP4000_quality|y2prn_HP4000_quality.upp auto:\
        :lp=/dev/null:\
        :sd=/var/spool/lpd/y2prn_HP4000_quality.upp--auto-HP4000_quality:\
        :lf=/var/spool/lpd/y2prn_HP4000_quality.upp--auto-HP4000_quality/log:\
        :af=/var/spool/lpd/y2prn_HP4000_quality.upp--auto-HP4000_quality/acct:\
        :if=/var/lib/apsfilter/bin/y2prn_HP4000_quality.upp--auto-HP4000_quality:\
        :la@:mx#0:\
        :tr=:cl:sh:
#
HP4000_quality-raw|lp8|y2prn_HP4000_quality.upp--raw-HP4000_quality|y2prn_HP4000_quality.upp raw:\
        :lp=/dev/null:\
        :sd=/var/spool/lpd/y2prn_HP4000_quality.upp--raw-HP4000_quality:\
        :lf=/var/spool/lpd/y2prn_HP4000_quality.upp--raw-HP4000_quality/log:\
        :af=/var/spool/lpd/y2prn_HP4000_quality.upp--raw-HP4000_quality/acct:\
        :if=/var/lib/apsfilter/bin/y2prn_HP4000_quality.upp--raw-HP4000_quality:\
        :la@:mx#0:\
        :tr=:cl:sh:
#
### END   apsfilter: ### /etc/gs.upp/y2prn_HP4000_quality.upp HP4000_quality ###
### BEGIN apsfilter: ### remote 192.168.1.189 hp4plus hp4 ###
#   Warning: Configured for apsfilter, do not edit the labels!
#            apsfilter setup Tue Sep  4 15:03:56 CDT 2001
#
hp4|lp9|192.168.1.189-hp4plus-hp4|192.168.1.189 hp4plus:\
        :lp=:\
        :rm=192.168.1.189:\
        :rp=hp4plus:\
        :sd=/var/spool/lpd/192.168.1.189-hp4plus-hp4:\
        :lf=/var/spool/lpd/192.168.1.189-hp4plus-hp4/log:\
        :af=/var/spool/lpd/192.168.1.189-hp4plus-hp4/acct:\
        :ar:bk:mx#0:\
        :tr=:cl:sh:
#
### END   apsfilter: ### remote 192.168.1.189 hp4plus hp4 ###
### BEGIN apsfilter: ### /etc/gs.upp/y2prn_hp.upp hp ###
#   Warning: Configured for apsfilter, do not edit the labels!
#            apsfilter setup Wed Sep  5 10:43:10 CDT 2001
#
hp-ascii|lp10|y2prn_hp.upp--ascii-hp|y2prn_hp.upp ascii:\
        :lp=/dev/null:\
        :sd=/var/spool/lpd/y2prn_hp.upp--ascii-hp:\
        :lf=/var/spool/lpd/y2prn_hp.upp--ascii-hp/log:\
        :af=/var/spool/lpd/y2prn_hp.upp--ascii-hp/acct:\
        :if=/var/lib/apsfilter/bin/y2prn_hp.upp--ascii-hp:\
        :la@:mx#0:\
        :tr=:cl:sh:
#
hp|lp11|y2prn_hp.upp--auto-hp|y2prn_hp.upp auto:\
        :lp=/dev/null:\
        :sd=/var/spool/lpd/y2prn_hp.upp--auto-hp:\
        :lf=/var/spool/lpd/y2prn_hp.upp--auto-hp/log:\
        :af=/var/spool/lpd/y2prn_hp.upp--auto-hp/acct:\
        :if=/var/lib/apsfilter/bin/y2prn_hp.upp--auto-hp:\
        :la@:mx#0:\
        :tr=:cl:sh:
#
hp-raw|lp12|y2prn_hp.upp--raw-hp|y2prn_hp.upp raw:\
        :lp=/dev/null:\
        :sd=/var/spool/lpd/y2prn_hp.upp--raw-hp:\
        :lf=/var/spool/lpd/y2prn_hp.upp--raw-hp/log:\
        :af=/var/spool/lpd/y2prn_hp.upp--raw-hp/acct:\
        :if=/var/lib/apsfilter/bin/y2prn_hp.upp--raw-hp:\
        :la@:mx#0:\
        :tr=:cl:sh:
#
### END   apsfilter: ### /etc/gs.upp/y2prn_hp.upp hp ###

jack malone
Network Administrator
EAST TEXAS LIGHTHOUSE FOR THE BLIND
dba HORIZON INDUSTRIES
903-595-3444
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