On 8/2/23 00:13, Carl Spitzer {L Juno} wrote:
On Tue, 2023-08-01 at 21:07 -0500, Jim Flanagan wrote:
On 7/23/23 10:38 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
> On 7/23/23 04:59, Carl Spitzer {L Juno} wrote:
>> Complete shut down.  Only happens in FF and twice in one day.
>> I think its a FF memory management issue because both times I had >15 
>> tabs open.
>
> There is something going on here. I'll run up to 15 or so tabs open 
> and I've never had an issue (some JS demands excess CPU, but memory is 
> fine)
>
> On the install disk, before you go to sleep, start memtest86+ and let 
> it run. It also sounds like you are running into a bad-memory issue. 
> When that occurs -- "is like a box of chocolates", but when you it the 
> bad address, the system will crash - and it may bring the entire 
> system down. With memory address radomization in the Linux virtual 
> memory manager -- there is no telling when, or if, any one program 
> will have access to the bad RAM.
>
> Firefox, in requesting (and in using in some cases) gigabytes of 
> memory -- is one of the more likely apps to hit the bad address....
>
Another issue could be swap on an SSD. We use them because they are 
fast. But SSDs have limited write cycles, they get burned out after so 
many writes. You could be hitting some burned out sectors on the Swap.

I do not think its new enough to be an ssd.  for all the writes I do downloading things I would never want an SSD except for backup since they are glorified flash drives.

Say what you will about SSD, but from personal experience they're okay.
I've been using them for system disks, including swap, in servers and
desktops since approximately 2006 without issue.  At any given time
I've got about 30 hosts up and running, most with SSD installed.  If
I remember correctly, I did have one fail, but that's still a good record.
I've seen spinners fail at a much greater rate.  Indeed, the first desktop
I tried them in in 2006 is still up and running.

I also use swap configured just a bit bigger than the installed RAM, except
on servers with 512-GB of RAM.  Back in the SunOS days the rule-of-thumb
was to configure swap to be three-times larger than your RAM, but that
was then!

YMMV of course, but for me SSDs are okay. 

Regards,
Lew