From stw@mca.bv.TU-Berlin.DE Thu Aug 13 13:54:10 1998 From: stw@mca.bv.TU-Berlin.DE To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] WINE Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 15:54:10 +0200 Message-ID: <35D2F002.167E@mca.bv.tu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <[S.u.S.E. Linux] WINE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3793152140009365732==" --===============3793152140009365732== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable alexm wrote: >=20 > Hi, everyone! >=20 > Just wondering if anyone was successful with WINE. > I can launch some programs but can do nothing with them: > can't open/save files, or can't create a folder for example. >=20 > Any info or pointers are cool, >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > alexm >=20 > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e See the options for WINE, especially the ddl-loading ones. --=20 Steffen Wittum =20 URL:http://mca.bv.tu-berlin.de/~stw> mailto:stw@mca.bv.tu-berlin.de mailto:wittum@inge2.bv.tu-ber= lin.de - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============3793152140009365732==-- From raymond.doetjes@tip.nl Thu Aug 13 19:19:09 1998 From: raymond.doetjes@tip.nl To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] WINE Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 21:19:09 +0200 Message-ID: <35D33C2D.C6AA1461@tip.nl> In-Reply-To: <35D2F002.167E@mca.bv.tu-berlin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1200322829626280170==" --===============1200322829626280170== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've been there and done it. The idea of Wine is pretty good even better than Wabi, because you can(should be able to run) Win 32 applications. But WINE is still in the Alpha state. So don't expect to much out of it. I am sure it will be a whole lot better next year. For now, you can better get Wabi 2.2. It runs only 16 bit applications, and is pretty stable. I run it for Word and Excel, and people run an x session doing WABI. Awsome... I know that you don't wanna pay 49 dollars to run old WIN16 applications. But here is a hint, goto: http://www.ftpsearch.com> Type WABI, and set the number of hits to 100, and then with a ALT-F4 search for Linux. Then you will find it. (I am not pushing piracy here, this is for pure educational needs I purchased it after a long long test trial). Goodluck Steffen Wittum wrote: > alexm wrote: > > > > Hi, everyone! > > > > Just wondering if anyone was successful with WINE. > > I can launch some programs but can do nothing with them: > > can't open/save files, or can't create a folder for example. > > > > Any info or pointers are cool, > > > > Thanks, > > > > alexm > > > > - > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > See the options for WINE, especially the ddl-loading ones. > > -- > Steffen Wittum > URL:http://mca.bv.tu-berlin.de/~stw> > > mailto:stw@mca.bv.tu-berlin.de > mailto:wittum@inge2.bv.tu-b= erlin.de > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============1200322829626280170==-- From hekate@intergate.bc.ca Fri Aug 14 00:21:48 1998 From: hekate@intergate.bc.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] WINE Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:21:48 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <35D33C2D.C6AA1461@tip.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5711160880821273475==" --===============5711160880821273475== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What's the performance like on Wabi?=20 I've gotten apps to run via Wine but they aren't very fast depending. If one was running apps that run on both, which would be faster?=20 On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Raymond Doetjes wrote: > I've been there and done it. > The idea of Wine is pretty good even better than Wabi, because you > can(should be able to run) Win 32 applications. But WINE is still in the > Alpha state. So don't expect to much out of it. > I am sure it will be a whole lot better next year. For now, you can better > get Wabi 2.2. > It runs only 16 bit applications, and is pretty stable. I run it for Word > and Excel, and people run an x session doing WABI. Awsome... I know that > you don't wanna pay 49 dollars to run old WIN16 applications. >=20 > But here is a hint, goto: http://www.ftpsearch.com> > Type WABI, and set the number of hits to 100, and then with a ALT-F4 > search for Linux. Then you will find it. (I am not pushing piracy here, > this is for pure educational needs I purchased it after a long long test > trial). >=20 > Goodluck >=20 >=20 > Steffen Wittum wrote: >=20 > > alexm wrote: > > > > > > Hi, everyone! > > > > > > Just wondering if anyone was successful with WINE. > > > I can launch some programs but can do nothing with them: > > > can't open/save files, or can't create a folder for example. > > > > > > Any info or pointers are cool, > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > alexm > > > > > > - > > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with > > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > > See the options for WINE, especially the ddl-loading ones. > > > > -- > > Steffen Wittum > > URL:http://mca.bv.tu-berlin.de/~stw> > > > > mailto:stw@mca.bv.tu-berlin.de= > > mailto:wittum@inge2.bv.tu= -berlin.de > > - > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > >=20 > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >=20 -M =20 =20 One is most dishonest towards one's God; he is not _permitted_ to sin.=20 =20 mail: mjohnson@pop3.aebc.com =20 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============5711160880821273475==-- From Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk Fri Aug 14 09:47:50 1998 From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] WINE Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 10:47:50 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9050006347342427639==" --===============9050006347342427639== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 14-Aug-98 Michael Johnson wrote: > What's the performance like on Wabi?=20 > I've gotten apps to run via Wine but they aren't very fast depending. > If one was running apps that run on both, which would be faster? WABI seems to be pretty fast. I have MS-Office-Pro installed under WABI and perceive no problems. The only application I have run under both WINE and WABI on the same machine = is Solitaire, and WABI is definitely faster for this. The only indication that WABI is not "native" comes with the cascading cards at the end: every so often there is a momentary hesitation in the cascade. If you need to use any Win-3.1 applications seriously, then use WABI. Some applications may not work properly (or in some case not at all), but the rest work very well. You can find a list of applications which definitely work in: http://www.caldera.com/produc= ts/wabi/index.html> and there is a rudimentary FAQ in http://www.cal= dera.com/support/solutions/wabi-top.html> There is supposed to be an "add-on" which allows some 32-bit apps to be run in WABI but I have no experience of this. Apart from that possibility, you are limited to Win-3.1 16-bit applications. People who need to use Win-95 applications have told methat the only really satisfactory solution is to use= a separate machine dedicated to Win-95, networked to your Linux setup; using a Windows X-emulator such as VNC allows you to access the Win-apps from Linux a= nd vice versa. Sun have stopped supporting WABI so it is not expected that its functionality will be extended. The future of "foreign apps" seems to lie in emulators such as SoftPC which simulate virtual hardware on which an alien OS can run "virtually natively". Hope this helps! Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) Date: 14-Aug-98 Time: 10:47:50 -------------------------------------------------------------------- - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============9050006347342427639==-- From hades@intergate.bc.ca Fri Aug 14 16:58:34 1998 From: hades@intergate.bc.ca To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] WINE Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 09:58:34 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8172230315444726870==" --===============8172230315444726870== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanx Raymond and Ted for the information. I think I'll order Wabi and check it out. The information was helpful and informative!=20 =20 On Fri, 14 Aug 1998 Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk wrote: >=20 > On 14-Aug-98 Michael Johnson wrote: > > What's the performance like on Wabi?=20 > > I've gotten apps to run via Wine but they aren't very fast depending. > > If one was running apps that run on both, which would be faster? >=20 > WABI seems to be pretty fast. I have MS-Office-Pro installed under WABI and > perceive no problems. >=20 > The only application I have run under both WINE and WABI on the same machin= e is > Solitaire, and WABI is definitely faster for this. The only indication that > WABI is not "native" comes with the cascading cards at the end: every so of= ten > there is a momentary hesitation in the cascade. >=20 > If you need to use any Win-3.1 applications seriously, then use WABI. Some > applications may not work properly (or in some case not at all), but the re= st > work very well. You can find a list of applications which definitely work i= n: > http://www.caldera.com/prod= ucts/wabi/index.html> > and there is a rudimentary FAQ in > http://www.ca= ldera.com/support/solutions/wabi-top.html> >=20 > There is supposed to be an "add-on" which allows some 32-bit apps to be run= in > WABI but I have no experience of this. Apart from that possibility, you are > limited to Win-3.1 16-bit applications. People who need to use Win-95 > applications have told methat the only really satisfactory solution is to u= se a > separate machine dedicated to Win-95, networked to your Linux setup; using a > Windows X-emulator such as VNC allows you to access the Win-apps from Linux= and > vice versa. >=20 > Sun have stopped supporting WABI so it is not expected that its functionali= ty > will be extended. The future of "foreign apps" seems to lie in emulators su= ch > as SoftPC which simulate virtual hardware on which an alien OS can run > "virtually natively". >=20 > Hope this helps! > Ted. >=20 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > E-Mail: (Ted Harding) > Date: 14-Aug-98 Time: 10:47:50 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >=20 Michael Johnson ICQ# 15407969 mail: mjohnson@aebc.com =20 mail: hekate@intergate.bc.ca - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============8172230315444726870==-- From leonmcclatchey@homemail.com Sat Aug 15 02:16:15 1998 From: leonmcclatchey@homemail.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [SuSE Linux] Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] WINE Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 21:16:15 -0500 Message-ID: <35D4EF6F.D2010A00@homemail.com> In-Reply-To: <35D2F002.167E@mca.bv.tu-berlin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0991297502914958760==" --===============0991297502914958760== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Steffen:-) I played with wine for a little bit, and found that it worked great for a couple of little games and whatnot, but as far as using it for any applications, I found it to be a pretty big headache. For one thing, depending on what application you are trying to run with it, you almost have to have a different "wine.conf" for each one. Then as far as anything that accesses files for reading/writing, I usually get the "share must be loaded" and then it aborts out. And I have yet to find any docs on how to go about loading device drivers of any kind? I suspect that if there was a way to load device drivers, more applications could be launched with it:-) Steffen Wittum wrote: > alexm wrote: > > > > Hi, everyone! > > > > Just wondering if anyone was successful with WINE. > > I can launch some programs but can do nothing with them: > > can't open/save files, or can't create a folder for example. > > -- cya l8r Leon McClatchey leonmcclatchey@homemail.com Linux User 78912 (Win95 Box) - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============0991297502914958760==-- From stw@mca.bv.TU-Berlin.DE Mon Aug 17 12:01:38 1998 From: stw@mca.bv.TU-Berlin.DE To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] WINE Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 14:01:38 +0200 Message-ID: <35D81BA2.41C6@mca.bv.tu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <35D4EF6F.D2010A00@homemail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8470788182454749337==" --===============8470788182454749337== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Leon McClatchey wrote: >=20 > Hi Steffen:-) >=20 > I played with wine for a little bit, and found that it worked great for a > couple of little games and whatnot, but as far as using it for any > applications, I found it to be a pretty big headache. For one thing, > depending on what application you are trying to run with it, you almost > have to have a different "wine.conf" for each one. Then as far as anything > that accesses files for reading/writing, I usually get the "share must be > loaded" and then it aborts out. And I have yet to find any docs on how to > go about loading device drivers of any kind? I suspect that if there was a > way to load device drivers, more applications could be launched with it:-) >=20 > Steffen Wittum wrote: >=20 > > alexm wrote: > > > > > > Hi, everyone! > > > > > > Just wondering if anyone was successful with WINE. > > > I can launch some programs but can do nothing with them: > > > can't open/save files, or can't create a folder for example. > > > >=20 > -- > cya l8r > Leon McClatchey > leonmcclatchey@homemail.com > Linux User 78912 (Win95 Box) >=20 > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e o you look right, the quoted was not by me looking for anwsers of problems with WINE first read the doc please ;-) all you want know is there ! --=20 Steffen Wittum =20 URL:http://mca.bv.tu-berlin.de/~stw> mailto:stw@mca.bv.tu-berlin.de mailto:wittum@inge2.bv.tu-ber= lin.de - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============8470788182454749337==--