From braden@shadow.net Tue Apr 21 23:25:35 1998
From: braden@shadow.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installing to a DK440LX SCSI system
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 19:25:35 -0400
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After throwing up my hands at Red Hat 5 (CD didn't have the drivers to
recognize the AIC-7895 on this motherboard), I have ordered the latest SuSE
distribution with high hopes. Here is the setup:
Intel DK440LX, 9 GB SCSI hard disc, SCSI CD-ROM drive
The first 4 GB of the drive are currently an NTFS partition on which I have
installed Windows NT. The rest of the disc is where I plan to install Linux.
I have a few questions before I dive into this...
Can anyone tell me with certainty if the 5.2 distribution will recognize my
SCSI controller? Will I be able to boot from the CD to install?
Will the kernel that ships with 5.2 mount an NTFS partition? I'd really
perfer not to create any extraneous FAT partition just to get the thing
working right--will I be able to avoid that? What sort of incantations will
I have to perform to get multiple boot between the two OSes working?
I'm also using a Permedia2-based graphics card (this is another thing that
pushed me toward SuSE)... Anything I should know about setting up the X
server for this board (specifically, it's a Hercules Dynamite 3D/GL)?
Prismatic Booger
Braden N. McDaniel, braden@shadow.net
<http://www.shadow.net/0.000000E+00braden/<=
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From gecko@benham.net Tue Apr 21 23:42:29 1998
From: gecko@benham.net
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Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installing to a DK440LX SCSI system
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 16:42:29 -0700
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Linux Kernel 2.0.33 (soon or even 34) doesn't officially support NTFS yet...
you'd have to search for a patch and hope it works.
On 21-Apr-98 Braden N. McDaniel wrote:
> Will the kernel that ships with 5.2 mount an NTFS partition? I'd really
> perfer not to create any extraneous FAT partition just to get the thing
> working right--will I be able to avoid that? What sort of incantations will
> I have to perform to get multiple boot between the two OSes working?
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From jrodman@skaro.nightcrawler.com Wed Apr 22 00:38:22 1998
From: jrodman@skaro.nightcrawler.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installing to a DK440LX SCSI system
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 17:38:22 -0700
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> > Linux Kernel 2.0.33 (soon or even 34) doesn't officially support
> > NTFS yet...
> > you'd have to search for a patch and hope it works.
>
> Okay... But does this mean I must have a FAT partition or not? Just not
> being able to mount the NT partition isn't the end of the world. My main
> question here is: can I successfully install and run Linux on the remaining
> disc space while maintaining access to my NT installation?
Yes, SuSE will isntall direct from the provided CD media.
It will need its own partition of course (well.. you CAN use umsdos, but
you shouldn't.. =)
It will not be upset by the presence of NT on the disk. Booting is a
little tricky, but there is a howto on co-booting the two operating
systems.
-josh
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From braden@shadow.net Wed Apr 22 01:04:31 1998
From: braden@shadow.net
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Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installing to a DK440LX SCSI system
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 21:04:31 -0400
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-suse-linux-e@suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e@suse.com]On
> Behalf Of gecko@benham.net
> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 1998 7:42 PM
> To: suse-linux-e@suse.com
> Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installing to a DK440LX SCSI system
>
>
>
> Linux Kernel 2.0.33 (soon or even 34) doesn't officially support
> NTFS yet...
> you'd have to search for a patch and hope it works.
Okay... But does this mean I must have a FAT partition or not? Just not
being able to mount the NT partition isn't the end of the world. My main
question here is: can I successfully install and run Linux on the remaining
disc space while maintaining access to my NT installation?
Prismatic Booger
Braden N. McDaniel, braden@shadow.net
<http://www.shadow.net/0.000000E+00braden/<=
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From gecko@benham.net Wed Apr 22 01:31:54 1998
From: gecko@benham.net
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Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installing to a DK440LX SCSI system
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 18:31:54 -0700
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On 22-Apr-98 Braden N. McDaniel wrote:
> Okay... But does this mean I must have a FAT partition or not? Just not
> being able to mount the NT partition isn't the end of the world. My main
> question here is: can I successfully install and run Linux on the remaining
> disc space while maintaining access to my NT installation?
Try /usr/doc/howto/mini/Linxu+NT-Loader
This is a howto file but I don't know enough about NT to understand it fully.=
=20
I believe the answer is a qualified-yes. It's something about leaving the MBR
intact. If you don't have access to the file, send me a private email and I'=
ll
send it to you.
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From dana@ntd.net Wed Apr 22 02:16:24 1998
From: dana@ntd.net
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Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installing to a DK440LX SCSI system
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 21:16:24 -0500
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Braden N. McDaniel wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-suse-linux-e@suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e@suse.com]On
> > Behalf Of gecko@benham.net
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 1998 7:42 PM
> > To: suse-linux-e@suse.com
> > Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installing to a DK440LX SCSI system
> >
> >
> >
> > Linux Kernel 2.0.33 (soon or even 34) doesn't officially support
> > NTFS yet...
> > you'd have to search for a patch and hope it works.
>
> Okay... But does this mean I must have a FAT partition or not? Just not
> being able to mount the NT partition isn't the end of the world. My main
> question here is: can I successfully install and run Linux on the remaining
> disc space while maintaining access to my NT installation?
You don't need a FAT partition. To install Linux on a system with NT
already installed, my first suggestion would be to have a current NT
emergency boot floppies. Then read the FAQ for Win NT and Linux.
(sorry for lack of details, I'm tired after cruising around Comdex all
day..) Nice booth S.u.S.E.!!
Dana
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From mantel@suse.de Wed Apr 22 11:59:09 1998
From: mantel@suse.de
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Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Installing to a DK440LX SCSI system
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 13:59:09 +0200
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Hi,
On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, Braden N. McDaniel wrote:
> After throwing up my hands at Red Hat 5 (CD didn't have the drivers to
> recognize the AIC-7895 on this motherboard), I have ordered the latest SuSE
> distribution with high hopes. Here is the setup:
>=20
> Intel DK440LX, 9 GB SCSI hard disc, SCSI CD-ROM drive
>=20
> The first 4 GB of the drive are currently an NTFS partition on which I have
> installed Windows NT. The rest of the disc is where I plan to install Linux.
> I have a few questions before I dive into this...
>=20
> Can anyone tell me with certainty if the 5.2 distribution will recognize my
> SCSI controller? Will I be able to boot from the CD to install?
Yes. We are using a newer version of the aic7xxx driver which can handle
the aic7895. It is able to boot from CD.
> Will the kernel that ships with 5.2 mount an NTFS partition? I'd really
> perfer not to create any extraneous FAT partition just to get the thing
> working right--will I be able to avoid that? What sort of incantations will
> I have to perform to get multiple boot between the two OSes working?
The official kernel doesn't yet support NTFS. There is a readonly
experimental driver on the CD. If you want to use it, you'll have to patch
and recompile your kernel.
> I'm also using a Permedia2-based graphics card (this is another thing that
> pushed me toward SuSE)... Anything I should know about setting up the X
> server for this board (specifically, it's a Hercules Dynamite 3D/GL)?
> Prismatic Booger
> Braden N. McDaniel, braden@shadow.net
> <http://www.shadow.net/0.000000E+00braden=
/>>
Hubert
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From braden@shadow.net Thu Apr 23 20:16:13 1998
From: braden@shadow.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Installing to a DK440LX SCSI system
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 16:16:13 -0400
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-suse-linux-e@suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e@suse.com]On
> Behalf Of Hubert Mantel
> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 1998 7:59 AM
> To: suse-linux-e
> Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Installing to a DK440LX SCSI system
> Yes. We are using a newer version of the aic7xxx driver which can handle
> the aic7895. It is able to boot from CD.
Excellent. This is certainly a good place to start.
> The official kernel doesn't yet support NTFS. There is a readonly
> experimental driver on the CD. If you want to use it, you'll have to patch
> and recompile your kernel.
Okay.
Thanks for the information, and thanks to the rest of you who responded,
too; I've read over the howto for using the NT OS loader to load Linux, and
I'm approaching this with some faint glimmer of confidence.
Prismatic Booger
Braden N. McDaniel, braden@shadow.net
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