From mhtexcollins@ccms.net Sun Jun 14 15:53:41 1998 From: mhtexcollins@ccms.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Networking - Internet Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 10:53:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3583F205.3CE4043C@ccms.net> In-Reply-To: <000001bd97e9$22596520$d0a4410c@schuller> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6866619685720745417==" --===============6866619685720745417== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > THAT is the most confusing answer that I have ever heard! > - > -- > IMHO BEST Beginners book so far. Sams' Teach Yourself Linux in 24 hours. > redhat press. > > - > Celis Gran Cru and Linux; Nowhere but South Austin Texas. > - > - > - > TEX http://www.ccms.net/~= mhtexcollins/78704.htm> > > > __ > / / __ _ _ _ _ __ __ > / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / > /____/ /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ > ...for IQs GREATER than 95/98?... > --- 0 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============6866619685720745417==-- From kc8chq@juno.com Sun Jun 14 21:49:56 1998 From: kc8chq@juno.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Networking - Internet Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 17:49:56 -0400 Message-ID: <19980614.224928.2823.3.kc8chq@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1985242415051011105==" --===============1985242415051011105== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As a Linux "newbie" I have many questions concerning setting internet access configuration.=20 Though I've managed to install SuSE 5.2, Debian 1.3.0, RedHat 5.0 and OS/2 3.0 all on same HDD I've not managed to wade through all the HOW-TOs on setting up my internet access, which would include PPP and non-PPP(one person on this list cordially sent me info on what his scripts looked like). I'm spending time in "The Linux Bible" as well the HOW-TOs provided with 5.2(assuming them to be more up to date), but can anyone recommend a concise book on what appears to be a rather "disconnected" subject. Under KDE I can dial my modem, but get no further(I obviously have not configured the system completely). Right now this is a puzzle and I'm not certain, which pieces are needed to complete it. Any suggestions as to where I can look? Also, when I start SDB and Netscape comes up it looks for URLs, but of=20 course, can not get to them. When I start Netscape, alone, as focus moves with the mouse cursor Netscape goes black when when the mouse is over the desktop, but the desktop goes blurry, resolution goes very bad(I'm using the standard background) with multiple colors. My video card is a Diamond Stealth 3D(not the Pro). Also, any ideas on this? Best regards, Bob Russell kc8chq(a)juno.com Micro$oft, what do you want to spend today? _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com> Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============1985242415051011105==-- From schullersite@worldnet.att.net Sun Jun 14 23:06:59 1998 From: schullersite@worldnet.att.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Networking - Internet Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 18:06:59 -0500 Message-ID: <000001bd97e9$22596520$d0a4410c@schuller> In-Reply-To: <19980614.224928.2823.3.kc8chq@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5395901253796053952==" --===============5395901253796053952== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ken Schuller Network Systems Specialist NovaNET Learning, Inc. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com]On > Behalf Of Robert C. Russell > Sent: Sunday, June 14, 1998 4:50 PM > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Networking - Internet > > > > As a Linux "newbie" I have many questions concerning setting internet > access > configuration. > > Though I've managed to install SuSE 5.2, Debian 1.3.0, RedHat 5.0 and > OS/2 3.0 all > on same HDD I've not managed to wade through all the HOW-TOs on setting > up my internet access, which would include PPP and non-PPP(one person on > this list cordially sent me info on what his scripts looked like). > > I'm spending time in "The Linux Bible" as well the HOW-TOs provided with > 5.2(assuming them to be more up to date), but can anyone recommend a > concise book on what appears to be a rather "disconnected" subject. > > Under KDE I can dial my modem, but get no further(I obviously have not > configured the system completely). Right now this is a puzzle and I'm not > certain, which pieces are needed to complete it. Any suggestions as to > where I can look? There's a bunch of things that need to happen for a PPP connect. 1. The pppd on your system has to be a binary, not just a script. That's the first thing to check. 2. Your kernel has to support PPP- "out of the box" the SuSE 5.2 kernel does not. This means you have to recompile the kernel using "make xconfig". 3. (This is where I screwed up) "make dep clean zImage" just builds the kernel, not modules. After the kernel's done making, you _have_ to make the modules. If you're dialing in, and you get past authentication, either pppd will start, or it won't. If it won't, look at pppd. If it will, try recompiling the kernel. Keep in mind you can make a bootable floppy with a new kernel on it to play with before you make one to boot thru LILO. This means you can play around pretty safely just by booting from floppy. Feel free to e-mail me directly if you need more detail on this stuff, and don't feel bad- it took me months because I glossed over the part in kernel recompiling when they mentioned the "make modules" issue. :) Hope this helps, Ken > > Also, when I start SDB and Netscape comes up it looks for URLs, but of > course, can not get to them. When I start Netscape, alone, as focus moves > with the mouse cursor > Netscape goes black when when the mouse is over the desktop, but the > desktop goes > blurry, resolution goes very bad(I'm using the standard background) with > multiple colors. My video card is a Diamond Stealth 3D(not the Pro). > > Also, any ideas on this? > > > Best regards, > Bob Russell > kc8chq(a)juno.com > Micro$oft, what do you want to spend today? > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com> > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============5395901253796053952==-- From hettar@teleport.com Sun Jun 14 23:59:19 1998 From: hettar@teleport.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Networking - Internet Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 16:59:19 -0700 Message-ID: <358463D7.1105DFFD@teleport.com> In-Reply-To: <000001bd97e9$22596520$d0a4410c@schuller> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0086954860096312088==" --===============0086954860096312088== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kenneth W. Schuller wrote: > Ken Schuller > Network Systems Specialist > NovaNET Learning, Inc. > > > > > Though I've managed to install SuSE 5.2, Debian 1.3.0, RedHat 5.0 and > > OS/2 3.0 all > > on same HDD I've not managed to wade through all the HOW-TOs on setting > > up my internet access, which would include PPP and non-PPP(one person on > > this list cordially sent me info on what his scripts looked like). > > Well you should start somewhere. Its a good thing to read the HOWTO's > > I'm spending time in "The Linux Bible" as well the HOW-TOs provided with > > 5.2(assuming them to be more up to date), but can anyone recommend a > > concise book on what appears to be a rather "disconnected" subject. Linux in a Nut Shell is a good book. > > Under KDE I can dial my modem, but get no further(I obviously have not > > configured the system completely). Right now this is a puzzle and I'm not > > certain, which pieces are needed to complete it. Any suggestions as to > > where I can look? > SuSE 5.2's PPP connection config gui program is a bit "not working fully"Best bet is to read the ppp HOWTO on sunsite http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw> If you still need help and want an easy fix. You can try my script at http://www.teleport.com/~hettar/linux.htm= l> (with step by step) > There's a bunch of things that need to happen for a PPP connect. > > 1. The pppd on your system has to be a binary, not just a script. That's > the first thing to check. > 2. Your kernel has to support PPP- "out of the box" the SuSE 5.2 kernel > does not. This means you have to recompile the kernel using "make xconfig". Your wrong here, out of the box SuSE 5.2 does indeed support PPP. > 3. (This is where I screwed up) "make dep clean zImage" just builds the > kernel, not modules. After the kernel's done making, you _have_ to make the > modules. > Best throw your old modules into modules.backup. Then build the new modules. > Keep in mind you can make a bootable floppy with a new kernel on it to play > with before you make one to boot thru LILO. This means you can play around Hey guys try not to send your emails/postings in HTML rich format. Steve Udell hettar(a)teleport.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============0086954860096312088==-- From satan@nfinity.com Mon Jun 15 00:04:22 1998 From: satan@nfinity.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Networking - Internet Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 19:04:22 -0500 Message-ID: <35846506.231D37CD@nfinity.com> In-Reply-To: <000001bd97e9$22596520$d0a4410c@schuller> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0098504888637685002==" --===============0098504888637685002== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kenneth W. Schuller wrote: >=20 > 2. Your kernel has to support PPP- "out of the box" the SuSE 5.2 kernel > does not. This means you have to recompile the kernel using "make xconfig". Not necessarily. Make config and make menuconfig work fine too. I dislike building kernels in x, but that is a personal preference. > 3. (This is where I screwed up) "make dep clean zImage" just builds the ke= rnel, not modules. After the >kernel's done making, you _have_ to make the > modules. I am surprised there has been confusion over building kernels this last weekend. That is a pretty well documented task. For the record: make mrproper make config (or menuconfig or xconfig) make dep=20 make clean make zImage make modules make modules_install cp arch/i386/boot/zImage /vmlinuz /sbin/lilo -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============0098504888637685002==-- From kc8chq@juno.com Wed Jun 17 21:34:42 1998 From: kc8chq@juno.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Networking - Internet Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:34:42 -0400 Message-ID: <19980617.223420.2823.3.kc8chq@juno.com> In-Reply-To: <000001bd97e9$22596520$d0a4410c@schuller> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8980010652899880910==" --===============8980010652899880910== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks a load for that info! I look at this info tomorrow. The learning curve is very steep for one who has no specific training though the frustration will be worth it. I think it may be necessary to go through the class in Unix/C I contemplated at Marygrove College last year. Though there has been a struggle Linux is much more user freindly than my M$ freinds would admit. Thanks again! Best regards, Bob Russell kc8chq(a)juno.com Micro$oft, what do you want to spend today? If it says "requires Win95 or better," install Linux! _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com> Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============8980010652899880910==--