From exdeath@mindspring.com Sat Jun 6 23:10:25 1998 From: exdeath@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] New Modem Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 19:10:25 -0400 Message-ID: <199806062306.TAA07314@camel8.mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5924926482823036765==" --===============5924926482823036765== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am going to purchase a new modem in the near future and I need to know whether I should get an internal one or an external one. Also which companies are best for linux (or SUSE). Gene Flanagin exdeath@mindspring.com P.S. - Has anybody gotten the ISP MindSpring to work with Linux? -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============5924926482823036765==-- From jkrough@mindspring.com Sat Jun 6 23:20:34 1998 From: jkrough@mindspring.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] New Modem Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 18:20:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3579CEC2.CE10F2F8@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <199806062306.TAA07314@camel8.mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5637530154760591980==" --===============5637530154760591980== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gene Flanagin wrote: > I am going to purchase a new modem in the near future and I need to know > whether I should get an internal one or an external one. Also which > companies are best for linux (or SUSE). > > Gene Flanagin > exdeath@mindspring.com > > P.S. - > Has anybody gotten the ISP MindSpring to work with Linux? > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Yes I have gotten Mindspring working it is really pretty straight forward. Mindspring has a page with instructions at http://help.mindspring.co= m/modules/00000/00006.htm> Jerome K. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============5637530154760591980==-- From satan@nfinity.com Sun Jun 7 00:10:42 1998 From: satan@nfinity.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] New Modem Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 19:10:42 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199806062306.TAA07314@camel8.mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6989873150727210332==" --===============6989873150727210332== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit save yourself some possible headache and get an external. anything by diamond or motorola is fine, provided it is NOT a 'winmodem'. Any k56flex modem should be upgradeable to the v.90 standard via a firmware update. My motorola is, that way you can enjoy k56flex today (if your isp supports it) and v.90 in the near future. My experience with 56k modems leaves me prefering 33.6, but maybe you have perfect phone lines where you live and 56k will work for you. 56k modems work perfectly as 33.6 modems in case your phone lines don't give good performance with 56k. ======================================================================= "I was playing poker the other night ... with Tarot cards. I got a full house and four people died." -- Steven Wright ======================================================================= On Sat, 6 Jun 1998, Gene Flanagin wrote: > > I am going to purchase a new modem in the near future and I need to know > whether I should get an internal one or an external one. Also which > companies are best for linux (or SUSE). > > Gene Flanagin > exdeath@mindspring.com > > P.S. - > Has anybody gotten the ISP MindSpring to work with Linux? > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============6989873150727210332==-- From mwagnon@ixpres.com Sun Jun 7 04:11:07 1998 From: mwagnon@ixpres.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] New Modem Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 21:11:07 -0700 Message-ID: <357A12DB.197F15D1@ixpres.com> In-Reply-To: <199806062306.TAA07314@camel8.mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5028532464808428428==" --===============5028532464808428428== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had USR Sportster, Motorola ModemSurfr, and a Zoom FaxModem. The latter two were 56K the former a 33.6. No problems with the USR or Zoom. My Motorola worked fine so long as it didn't drop carrier, which happened a couple times a week (a major pain if your dling a large file). I jsut picked up my Zoom and it seems to be just fine (no interruptions as of yet). Make sure you get an external model whichever manufacturer you go with, and make sure it isn't a winmodem. Als look for v.90 ready or upgradable. Luck, Mark Gene Flanagin wrote: > > I am going to purchase a new modem in the near future and I need to know > whether I should get an internal one or an external one. Also which > companies are best for linux (or SUSE). > > Gene Flanagin > exdeath@mindspring.com > > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============5028532464808428428==-- From hatridge@straubing.baynet.de Sun Jun 7 09:33:45 1998 From: hatridge@straubing.baynet.de To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] New Modem Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 11:33:45 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199806062306.TAA07314@camel8.mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0833324265107949340==" --===============0833324265107949340== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 6 Jun 1998, Gene Flanagin wrote: > > I am going to purchase a new modem in the near future and I need to know > whether I should get an internal one or an external one. Also which > companies are best for linux (or SUSE). > > Gene Flanagin > exdeath@mindspring.com Hi Gene, Just my thoughts on modems. I have an internal one, because I don't have a lot of desk space to put boxs. But an external one is probalbly the best for a linux system. In the event that you need to change it you don't have to bring down the system or open the box. And whatever you do DON'T get a winmodem. They are junk to start with and get worst as you go along. You should get the best that you can afford. That's one thing you should not save money on. Hope this helps! JIM ----------------------------------------- Jim Hatridge Germany hatridge@straubing.baynet.de M$ -- Ghostdriver* on the road to the future! (*German Slang for the guy driving on the wrong side of the road!) ___________ News Flash! -------------- News Flash! ___________________ Yesterday, a ferry boat leaving Haiti sunk and 300 people died, drowned, as the boat capsized. But a tragedy was avoided when they discovered that none of them on board was a Princess. --- Harlan Ellison, InterZone -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============0833324265107949340==-- From roberto@cbvcp.com Sun Jun 7 17:59:53 1998 From: roberto@cbvcp.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] New Modem Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 10:59:53 -0700 Message-ID: <357AD519.3816A3F9@cbvcp.com> In-Reply-To: <357A12DB.197F15D1@ixpres.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1065613676028702799==" --===============1065613676028702799== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark Wagnon wrote: > Als look > for v.90 ready or upgradable. With the file you either dl or are sent, do you have to go into windows to upgrade? i've never done one of those before, and i was wondering how the upgrades work. -- Aaron Seelye http://revolution.3-cities.com/~roberto> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============1065613676028702799==-- From mwagnon@ixpres.com Sun Jun 7 20:01:06 1998 From: mwagnon@ixpres.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] New Modem Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 13:01:06 -0700 Message-ID: <357AF182.EE344B20@ixpres.com> In-Reply-To: <357AD519.3816A3F9@cbvcp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6518843633690896912==" --===============6518843633690896912== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm not really sure, as I haven't uprgraded a modem in Linux, but I have had to update my CD-RW and my SCSI card, both from DOS, so I would think that it would be the same for upgrading a modem. I guess that's one more reason to keep DOS/Windows around (the other reason for me is games). Luck, Mark Aaron Seelye wrote: > > Mark Wagnon wrote: > > > Als look > > for v.90 ready or upgradable. > > With the file you either dl or are sent, do you have to go into windows to > upgrade? i've never done one of those before, and i was wondering how the > upgrades work. > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============6518843633690896912==-- From dana@ntd.net Mon Jun 8 01:10:12 1998 From: dana@ntd.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] New Modem Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 20:10:12 -0500 Message-ID: <357B39F3.A6FCA533@ntd.net> In-Reply-To: <357AD519.3816A3F9@cbvcp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6488691251933038284==" --===============6488691251933038284== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aaron Seelye wrote: > Mark Wagnon wrote: > > > Als look > > for v.90 ready or upgradable. > > With the file you either dl or are sent, do you have to go into windows to > upgrade? i've never done one of those before, and i was wondering how the > upgrades work. For my USRobotics X2 modem I had to fire up Windows 3.11 and do the upgrade to V.90. I'm pretty positive that you need some flavor of Windows for upgrading the flash rom. I have the internal Sportster X2 with fax, great modem. Just *stay* away from the *win* model(s). Dana -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============6488691251933038284==-- From brussell@southcom.com.au Mon Jun 8 16:05:49 1998 From: brussell@southcom.com.au To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] New Modem Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 02:05:49 +1000 Message-ID: <357C0BDC.8D1D4543@southcom.com.au> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2161139672139640927==" --===============2161139672139640927== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Just a quick note. I have an external (US Robotics) and internal (Hayes). The internal was set with plug and play. This did not work with Unix nor NT. I have not tried it yet under Linux. I had to manually configure it using the jumpers. The external worked no problem. The point being, plug and play is great for Windows 95 but may not suit other operating systems. Just my few cents worth. Regards Brett. Jim Hatridge wrote: > On Sat, 6 Jun 1998, Gene Flanagin wrote: > > > > > I am going to purchase a new modem in the near future and I need to know > > whether I should get an internal one or an external one. Also which > > companies are best for linux (or SUSE). > > > > Gene Flanagin > > exdeath@mindspring.com > > Hi Gene, > > Just my thoughts on modems. I have an internal one, because I don't have a > lot of desk space to put boxs. But an external one is probalbly the best > for a linux system. In the event that you need to change it you don't have > to bring down the system or open the box. And whatever you do DON'T get a > winmodem. They are junk to start with and get worst as you go along. You > should get the best that you can afford. That's one thing you should not > save money on. > > Hope this helps! > > JIM > > ----------------------------------------- > Jim Hatridge > Germany > hatridge@straubing.baynet.de > > M$ -- Ghostdriver* on the road to the future! > (*German Slang for the guy driving on the wrong side of the road!) > > ___________ News Flash! -------------- News Flash! ___________________ > > Yesterday, a ferry boat leaving Haiti sunk and 300 people died, drowned, > as the boat capsized. But a tragedy was avoided when they discovered that > none of them on board was a Princess. > --- Harlan Ellison, InterZone > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- Poverty is the price the principled pay.
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From jpcowh01@ox.slug.louisville.edu Mon Jun  8 18:28:32 1998
From: jpcowh01@ox.slug.louisville.edu
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Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] New Modem
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 14:28:32 -0400
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> Hi
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> Just a quick note.  I have an external (US Robotics) and internal (Hayes).
> The internal was set with plug and play.  This did not work with Unix nor N=
T.
> I have not tried it yet under Linux.  I had to manually configure it using =
the
> jumpers.  The external worked no problem.  The point being, plug and play is
> great for Windows 95 but may not suit other operating systems.
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> Just my few cents worth.
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> Regards Brett.
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        I have serveral pnp card that I've used with my linux box, although I=
 won't say that all pnp cards will work under linux, your modem should...  Th=
ere is tool called isapnptools that most distributions come with...  It can t=
ell you what the settings for pnp are for each card it detects (this also wor=
ked with a pnp pci ethernet card I had) and configure any compatible drivers =
to work with that device...


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From weissel@jupiter.ph-cip.uni-koeln.de Tue Jun  9 08:49:59 1998
From: weissel@jupiter.ph-cip.uni-koeln.de
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Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] New Modem
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Hi!

Trying to kill the keyboard, hatridge@straubing.baynet.de produced:
> to bring down the system or open the box. And whatever you do DON'T get a
> winmodem. They are junk to start with and get worst as you go along. You

Winmodems are probably OK for Windows. But since they lack essential
hardware (and have to use the CPU of the computers using a proprietary
DLL to compensate) they simply won't work with anything else, e.g.
Linux.

-Wolfgang


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From dana@ntd.net Wed Jun 10 05:15:39 1998
From: dana@ntd.net
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Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] New Modem
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 00:15:39 -0500
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Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Trying to kill the keyboard, hatridge@straubing.baynet.de produced:
> > to bring down the system or open the box. And whatever you do DON'T get a
> > winmodem. They are junk to start with and get worst as you go along. You
>
> Winmodems are probably OK for Windows. But since they lack essential
> hardware (and have to use the CPU of the computers using a proprietary
> DLL to compensate) they simply won't work with anything else, e.g.
> Linux.

Or DOS for that matter. ;-)

Dana


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From hatridge@straubing.baynet.de Wed Jun 10 17:25:23 1998
From: hatridge@straubing.baynet.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] New Modem
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 19:25:23 +0200
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On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:

> 
> Hi!
> 
> Trying to kill the keyboard, hatridge@straubing.baynet.de produced:
> > to bring down the system or open the box. And whatever you do DON'T get a
> > winmodem. They are junk to start with and get worst as you go along. You
> 
> Winmodems are probably OK for Windows. But since they lack essential
> hardware (and have to use the CPU of the computers using a proprietary
> DLL to compensate) they simply won't work with anything else, e.g.
> Linux.
> 
> -Wolfgang

Hi Wolfgang,

You're right, winmodems are probably ok for gatesware. But nothing else!
Once someone gets passed kindergarden they will want a real modem. Then
they will be kicking their butts for spending money on a toy. So the
bottom line is don't get trapped by the evil empire!

JIM

-----------------------------------------
Jim Hatridge
Germany 
hatridge@straubing.baynet.de

M$ -- Ghostdriver* on the road to the future!
(*German Slang for the guy driving on the wrong side of the road!)

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Yesterday, a ferry boat leaving Haiti sunk and 300 people died, drowned,
as the boat capsized. But a tragedy was avoided when they discovered that
none of them on board was a Princess. 
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