From toftd001@hawaii.rr.com Sun Nov 29 06:44:40 1998
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Subject: [SuSE Linux] Linux Today: S.u.S.E. 6.0 Linux--finally glibc
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 20:44:40 -1000
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an version will ship December 15 on five CDROMS. Orders are being
taken now.

<p>S.u.S.E. is one of the last distributions to convert to glibc 2.0.7.
S.u.S.E.  6.0 will feature ecgs 1.1.1, XFree86 3.3.3 and Kernel 2.0.36.

<p>S.u.S.E. is an RPM-based Linux distribution. Featured packages include:

<ul>
<li>afio 2.4.5, a cpio-compatible archive-backup program
<li>dhcplient, a DHCP client
<li>ipchains 1.3.5, Firewall und IP-Accounting Administration
<li>lilypond 1.0.17, music typesetter
<li>mgp 1.03a, MagicPoint presentation program
<li>mysql 3.21.33b, popular and fast SQL database program
<li>openldap 1.0.2, Lightweight Directory Access Protocol (LDAP)
<li>orbit (CORBA ORB), part of the GNOME Project
<li>perl_tk 800.007, add Tk capabilities to your Perl programs
<li>pgaccess, Postgres GUI access tool
<li>rpmfind, automatically upgrade your distribution by FTP
<li>x11amp 0.7, MP3 player for X
<li>yodl 1.31.5, Yet Another Document Language--used by Linux Journal
<li>adabas d 10.0.5 Personal Edition, commercial SQL database system
<li>antivir 5.15.0.1, Linux anti-virus scanner
<li>apache 1.3.3 + PHP 3.0.5 (for ADABAS D and mySQL) + mod_perl 1.15_01 +
mod_ssl 2.0.14, the popular web server with compiled with extensions
<li>aps 1.4.4. a powerful printer filter
<li>bwbasic 2.20pl1, BASIC interpreter
<li>dosemu 0.98.3, the popular and powerful MS-DOS emulator
<li>flagship 4.48, commercial Clipper compiler demo
<li>jdk 1.1.7v1a, Java Development Kit
<li>KDE 1.0 with qt 1.41, the popular GUI desktop
<li>Netscape 4.5
<li>gimp 1.0.2
<li>perl 5.00502
<li>postgres 6.4-Beta4
<li>ssh 1.2.26
<li>SuSEFax PRE1.0alpha1, Java-based Hylafax fax client
<li>yast 0.97.5, user-friendly systems administration tool
<li>and hundreds more packages
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From brauki@cityweb.de Sun Nov 29 11:23:19 1998
From: brauki@cityweb.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux Today: S.u.S.E. 6.0 Linux--finally glibc
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:23:19 +0100
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George Toft wrote:
>=20
> <A HREF=3D"http://www.linuxtoday.com/stories/1202.html"><A HREF=3D"http://w=
ww.linuxtoday.com/stories/1202.html</A">http://www.linuxtoday.com/stories/120=
2.html</A</A>>
>=20
please, George,

no more HTML-mails to the list. klicking to your mail caused my ISDN
subsystem to dial out and make telecom rich! ;-((

This usually only happend with mails from netscape's net center.

please, NO MORE!!

J=C3=BCrgen


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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D     __   _
Juergen Braukmann mail: brauki@cityweb.de| -o)/ /  (_)__  __ ____  __
Tel: 0201-743648  dk4jb@db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu| /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ /
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From toftd001@hawaii.rr.com Sun Nov 29 14:08:42 1998
From: toftd001@hawaii.rr.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux Today: S.u.S.E. 6.0 Linux--finally glibc
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 04:08:42 -1000
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Juergen Braukmann wrote:
>=20
> George Toft wrote:
> >
> > <A HREF=3D"http://www.linuxtoday.com/stories/1202.html"><A HREF=3D"http:/=
/www.linuxtoday.com/stories/1202.html</A">http://www.linuxtoday.com/stories/1=
202.html</A</A>>
> >
> please, George,
>=20
> no more HTML-mails to the list. klicking to your mail caused my ISDN
> subsystem to dial out and make telecom rich! ;-((

Wow - I'm sorry.

> This usually only happend with mails from netscape's net center.
>=20
> please, NO MORE!!

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From fmiller@lightlink.com Sun Nov 29 16:12:53 1998
From: fmiller@lightlink.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux Today: S.u.S.E. 6.0 Linux--finally glibc
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 11:12:53 -0500
Message-ID: <36617285.F64FC4C1@lightlink.com>
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George Toft wrote:
>=20
> Juergen Braukmann wrote:
> >
> > George Toft wrote:
> > >
> > > <A HREF=3D"http://www.linuxtoday.com/stories/1202.html"><A HREF=3D"http=
://www.linuxtoday.com/stories/1202.html</A">http://www.linuxtoday.com/stories=
/1202.html</A</A>>
> > >
> > please, George,
> >
> > no more HTML-mails to the list. klicking to your mail caused my ISDN
> > subsystem to dial out and make telecom rich! ;-((
>=20
> Wow - I'm sorry.
>=20
> > This usually only happend with mails from netscape's net center.
> >
> > please, NO MORE!!
>=20
> >From my end, all I see is the URL.  I didn't realize Netscape
> Navigator was sending HTML (I thought I had that turned off).
>=20
> Again, I'm sorry.

George, if you have forwards as "attached," then they WILL be HTML if
they are a web page.

Fred


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From mlm@efn.org Sun Nov 29 16:24:36 1998
From: mlm@efn.org
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux Today: S.u.S.E. 6.0 Linux--finally glibc
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 08:24:36 -0800
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As a relative newbie still getting SuSE 5.3 up and running to my
satisfaction, do you think there are any compelling reasons to upgrade
to 6.0?  I don't think I need the new features, at least not yet, and I
feel like I should get more familiar with the current version, and linux
in general, before I move on. Any comments from the "oldie's" out there?

MikeM
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From fmiller@lightlink.com Sun Nov 29 17:04:04 1998
From: fmiller@lightlink.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux Today: S.u.S.E. 6.0 Linux--finally glibc
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:04:04 -0500
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Mike McFarlane wrote:
> 
> As a relative newbie still getting SuSE 5.3 up and running to my
> satisfaction, do you think there are any compelling reasons to upgrade
> to 6.0?  I don't think I need the new features, at least not yet, and I
> feel like I should get more familiar with the current version, and linux
> in general, before I move on. Any comments from the "oldie's" out there?

Mike, 6.0 won't ship (US version) till Jan. sometime.  I'd get 5.3, and
you WILL want to upgrade.

Fred


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From markgray@iago.nac.net Sun Nov 29 17:40:03 1998
From: markgray@iago.nac.net
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux Today: S.u.S.E. 6.0 Linux--finally glibc
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:40:03 -0500
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Mike McFarlane <mlm@efn.org> writes:

> 
> 
> As a relative newbie still getting SuSE 5.3 up and running to my
> satisfaction, do you think there are any compelling reasons to upgrade
> to 6.0?  I don't think I need the new features, at least not yet, and I
> feel like I should get more familiar with the current version, and linux
> in general, before I move on. Any comments from the "oldie's" out there?

It is only really important if you are programming --- the libc they
are based on is the major difference, (apart from the newer version of
X which some people might need for their particular display cards.)
The libc in 6.0 --- glibc --- is much more standard complient, has
many more functions implimented, particularly in networking, has
better thread support, is more efficient and most importantly, is the
only version of libc that is going to be further developed (libc-5 is
only going to have security bug fixes to it from now on.)

So, unless you need some of the newer features, or plan to start C
programming, stick with 5.3 until the need to write or compile
programs which will compile only with glibc hits you.  I plan on
upgrading to 6.0 when it comes out myself because of the thread and
networking support in glibc.

(Linus is still using libc-5 BTW last I heard.)

> MikeM
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