From hattons@cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil Tue Jul 14 05:27:34 1998
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Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Green S.u.S.E?
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 01:27:34 -0400
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I have been wondering for weeks whether S.u.S.E. or Linux in general has
energy saving features like a feature to shutdown the monitor when not
in use. I know that the monitor shuts down if I leave the system set
without input at the Linux command prompt. It doesn't do this while
running the KDE. I really wanted to read up on this before I asked this
list, but I haven't found anything jumping out at me. Perhaps this is
something that is handled by firmware below the OS level. Any thoughts?
Steve
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From ubmarti@stud.ee.ethz.ch Tue Jul 14 10:00:42 1998
From: ubmarti@stud.ee.ethz.ch
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Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Green S.u.S.E?
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 12:00:42 +0200
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On Tue, 14 Jul 1998, Steven T. Hatton wrote:
>
> I have been wondering for weeks whether S.u.S.E. or Linux in general has
> energy saving features like a feature to shutdown the monitor when not
> in use. I know that the monitor shuts down if I leave the system set
> without input at the Linux command prompt. It doesn't do this while
> running the KDE. I really wanted to read up on this before I asked this
> list, but I haven't found anything jumping out at me. Perhaps this is
> something that is handled by firmware below the OS level. Any thoughts?
>
> Steve
Hmmmm.... I guess it must be a problem with KDE. I am running fvwm2
and there the energy saving features work fine. Even on my not very
recent mainboard...
Urs
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From jonathan@aracnet.net Tue Jul 14 11:52:50 1998
From: jonathan@aracnet.net
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Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Green S.u.S.E?
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 07:52:50 -0400
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On 14-Jul-98 Steven T. Hatton wrote:
Yup, put Option "power_saver" in the appropriate Device section in your
XF86Config.
Now the question is, how do I get the REST of the system to power down!?!? I
even killed crond thinking it was keeping it awake but it wasn't that.
> I have been wondering for weeks whether S.u.S.E. or Linux in general has
> energy saving features like a feature to shutdown the monitor when not
> in use. I know that the monitor shuts down if I leave the system set
> without input at the Linux command prompt. It doesn't do this while
> running the KDE. I really wanted to read up on this before I asked this
> list, but I haven't found anything jumping out at me. Perhaps this is
> something that is handled by firmware below the OS level. Any thoughts?
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From Jochen_Hayek@ACM.org Tue Jul 14 12:16:31 1998
From: Jochen_Hayek@ACM.org
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Green S.u.S.E?
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:16:31 +0100
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>>>>> "STH" == Steven T Hatton writes:
STH> I have been wondering for weeks
STH> whether S.u.S.E. or Linux in general has energy saving features
yes, but ...
in order to achieve energey saving in different areas,
you have to apply totally different means.
that makes it quite a bit hard to use.
STH> like a feature to shutdown the monitor when not in use.
STH> I know that the monitor shuts down if I leave the system set
STH> without input at the Linux command prompt.
when you're in a plain tty,
that's determined by a kernel compile time feature.
STH> It doesn't do this while running the KDE.
when you're under X-Windows (with whatever wm or desktop ...),
this is determined by DPMS (-> man XF86Config, man xset).
STH> I really wanted to read up on this before I asked this list,
STH> but I haven't found anything jumping out at me. Perhaps this
STH> is something that is handled by firmware below the OS level.
STH> Any thoughts?
>>>>> "UM" == Urs Marti writes:
UM> Hmmmm.... I guess it must be a problem with KDE.
UM> I am running fvwm2 and there the energy saving features work
UM> fine.
No, it's just a `plain tty' vs. `proper X-Windows setup' thing.
UM> Even on my not very recent mainboard...
I would actually like to be able to point you to a `Green-HOWTO',
but I couldn't find one myself.
(After completing these lines I found a Battery-Powered mini HOWTO,
that you might find useful, although it's mostly meant for portables.)
When we're talking about green features,
we normally mean a few other things like spinning down disks etc. as well.
Under UNIX circumstances it doesn't make sense to spin down
the disk with the root file system,
because that one for sure will be `sync-ed' regularly for various reasons.
But for other disks you might want to apply `hdparm' to.
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From hanno@lava.de Tue Jul 14 12:27:14 1998
From: hanno@lava.de
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Green S.u.S.E?
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:27:14 +0200
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My "Battery Powered Linux mini-HOWTO" describes how to reduce system
activity on a Linux computer. This is mostly useful for laptops, since
this will increase the system's uptime while on battery.
It could also be useful for linux servers that are rarely used. Since
"Green" bioses are not very common yet, there is no special Linux support
available that I know of. Of course, I would love to see a linux modem/fax
server that only uses power when someone calls it.
I think that a Green HOWTO would deal with the same issues, since "Green"
features is mostly about power saving. If you have tips, let me know and I
will add it to my HOWTO.
Greetings,
Hanno
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From jonno@printsters.com Tue Jul 14 13:45:46 1998
From: jonno@printsters.com
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Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Green S.u.S.E?
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 08:45:46 -0500
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To get my monitor to shut down after 30 mins, I use:
xset +dpms
There are other options to xset. Any help?
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From arunkhan@xnet.com Tue Jul 14 16:20:25 1998
From: arunkhan@xnet.com
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Green S.u.S.E?
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:20:25 -0500
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At 01:27 AM 7/14/98 -0400, Steven T. Hatton wrote:
>
>I have been wondering for weeks whether S.u.S.E. or Linux in general has
>energy saving features like a feature to shutdown the monitor when not
>in use. I know that the monitor shuts down if I leave the system set
>without input at the Linux command prompt. It doesn't do this while
>running the KDE. I really wanted to read up on this before I asked this
>list, but I haven't found anything jumping out at me. Perhaps this is
>something that is handled by firmware below the OS level. Any thoughts?
>
>Steve
To use X's DPMS you need to add the following to your .xinitrc just before
invoking the Window Manager
xset +dpms
For more info pls. do "man xset"
HTH
Arun Khan
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From gecko@benham.net Tue Jul 14 16:21:30 1998
From: gecko@benham.net
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Subject: RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Green S.u.S.E?
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:21:30 -0700
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On 14-Jul-98 Steven T. Hatton wrote:
>=20
> I have been wondering for weeks whether S.u.S.E. or Linux in general has
> energy saving features like a feature to shutdown the monitor when not
> in use. I know that the monitor shuts down if I leave the system set
> without input at the Linux command prompt. It doesn't do this while
> running the KDE. I really wanted to read up on this before I asked this
> list, but I haven't found anything jumping out at me. Perhaps this is
> something that is handled by firmware below the OS level. Any thoughts?
At the command prompt, Linux isn't really shutting down the monitor, it's
blacking the screen out. To get the same effect, KDE has a screen saver that
you'd have to activate. Check under "K^", "Applnk", "Desktop", "Settings",
"Screen Saver"
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From sandyseeds@iname.com Wed Jul 15 02:14:50 1998
From: sandyseeds@iname.com
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Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Green S.u.S.E?
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 22:14:50 -0400
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On Tue, 14 Jul 1998, Arun K. Khan wrote:
[....]
>
>To use X's DPMS you need to add the following to your .xinitrc just before
>invoking the Window Manager
>
>xset +dpms
>
Question: Running KDE on SuSE 5.2 my xinitrc points to twm, which has
no reference to $WINDOWMANAGER or kdm. But in my home directory there is
..xinitrc, which ends with:
#
# finaly start the window manager
#
exec $WINDOWMANAGER
So I assume this would be the correct file to add the xset to?
The box is configured for root plus 2 users, so would the xset need to
be added to the 2nd users .xinitrc in her home directory?
I haven't found a .xinitrc for root, so how would I get dpms to kick in
for root?
>For more info pls. do "man xset"
>
I did, but given my low level of Linux, it wasn't much help to me.
TIA
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From hattons@cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil Wed Jul 15 04:34:48 1998
From: hattons@cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil
To: users@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Green S.u.S.E?
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 00:34:48 -0400
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Sandy wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jul 1998, Arun K. Khan wrote:
>
> [....]
> >
> >To use X's DPMS you need to add the following to your .xinitrc just before
> >invoking the Window Manager
> >
> >xset +dpms
> >
> Question: Running KDE on SuSE 5.2 my xinitrc points to twm, which has
> no reference to $WINDOWMANAGER or kdm. But in my home directory there is
> ..xinitrc, which ends with:
> #
> # finaly start the window manager
> #
>
> exec $WINDOWMANAGER
>
> So I assume this would be the correct file to add the xset to?
>
> The box is configured for root plus 2 users, so would the xset need to
> be added to the 2nd users .xinitrc in her home directory?
>
> I haven't found a .xinitrc for root, so how would I get dpms to kick in
> for root?
>
> >For more info pls. do "man xset"
> >
> I did, but given my low level of Linux, it wasn't much help to me.
>
> TIA
>
> Sandy
>
> --
> Sandy Seeds
> 100% Microsoft Free
> S.u.S.E. Linux!
Sandy,
I would guess/hope that this setting would be global. For now I just ran the
xset command from a kvt prompt. Seems to work. (Thanks guys) I don't know
much about the guts of Linux or X myself. Perhaps some one more
knowledgeable will be able to explain this.
Steve
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From dulaney0@ovis.net Thu Jul 16 05:36:21 1998
From: dulaney0@ovis.net
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Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Green S.u.S.E?
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 01:36:21 -0400
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Sandy wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jul 1998, Arun K. Khan wrote:
>
> [....]
> >
> >To use X's DPMS you need to add the following to your .xinitrc just before
> >invoking the Window Manager
> >
> >xset +dpms
> >
> Question: Running KDE on SuSE 5.2 my xinitrc points to twm, which has
> no reference to $WINDOWMANAGER or kdm. But in my home directory there is
> ..xinitrc, which ends with:
> #
> # finaly start the window manager
> #
>
> exec $WINDOWMANAGER
>
> So I assume this would be the correct file to add the xset to?
>
> The box is configured for root plus 2 users, so would the xset need to
> be added to the 2nd users .xinitrc in her home directory?
>
> I haven't found a .xinitrc for root, so how would I get dpms to kick in
> for root?
>
> >For more info pls. do "man xset"
> >
> I did, but given my low level of Linux, it wasn't much help to me.
>
> TIA
>
> Sandy
>
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> 100% Microsoft Free
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From elijahu@mindspring.com Thu Jul 16 07:00:13 1998
From: elijahu@mindspring.com
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Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Green S.u.S.E?
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 02:00:13 -0500
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motherfucker, can't you read?
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