From kingr@icon.co.za Sat Nov 28 09:07:21 1998 From: kingr@icon.co.za To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Help in Norfolk, Va Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 11:07:21 +0200 Message-ID: <000301be1ac6$739f0240$02000003@kingr.sabc.co.za> In-Reply-To: <[SuSE Linux] Help in Norfolk, Va> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8834827608874317074==" --===============8834827608874317074== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I basically would agree with the comments below - I've tinkered with Linux for a year or two, and have been highly motivated to do so - yet I still battle at times, and there is so much I still do not know. I use Linux purely because of its reliability and flexibility to do things that I need to do with the Internet. If it takes me hours of fiddling to find out how to do what I want, its worth it because once I figure it out and get it working I know it will keep on working.... And yet I sit in a situation where I have 60 users on both Win 3.11 and Win 95, who constantly badger me because they've lost the network printer, or in MSWord the toolbar they need has disappeared, or somone over the weekend has been fiddling with control panel, have read their email, or have installed virus-infected games etc etc.. So Windows users can also get themselves into a whole lot of trouble. I work with journalists who basically use the PC as a glorified typewriter (some of them would dearly like to go back to a typewriter!) and now that I've seen KDE, I really wonder if - in my situation - it might be worth setting them up with a system that will hopefully give less problems when there's a glitch with the network, and where I can give them a simple text editor etc - and give them their own personal login/privacy - but where they perhaps can't really get themselves into quite the same trouble as with Windows.... ? Or should I wait another year or two....? Richard King Johannesburg http://www.channelafrica.org> -----Original Message----- From: wizard01@impop.bellatlantic.net To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Date: 28 November 1998 04:43 Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Help in Norfolk, Va Personally I'd recommend AGAINST linux for a person who it totally new to computers at this time. Perhaps in a few more years, but not at present. Too easy to get themselves in trouble with their system and totally lost. Also, they'd tend to become discouraged by the learning curve as well as lack of software titles available "off the shelf". You'd be getting calls about "WHY can't I run this new neat-o-keen 3D packman game I just bought"... Now as a SECONDARY OS, I'd recommend linux with the caution about the learning curve. Let them see the super easy idiot OS of windows and a REAL OS operating in their native modes. One a bit more difficult to use/configure but blazingly fast, the other (well, we already know about windows)... > > I have a friend and his wife who are new to computers and would like to > start them on the right path with Linux. Can anybody help? > > Juanito > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============8834827608874317074==-- From samelash@ix.netcom.com Sat Nov 28 10:11:45 1998 From: samelash@ix.netcom.com To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Help in Norfolk, Va Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 10:11:45 +0000 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981128101145.00e72ccc@popd.ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <000301be1ac6$739f0240$02000003@kingr.sabc.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4970403105374358845==" --===============4970403105374358845== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >perhaps can't really get themselves into quite the same trouble as with >Windows.... ? Or should I wait another year or two....? > At least they won't be able to load those pesky games. I would sugest you go for it on a trial basis with a few users who you feel can pretty nmuch leqarn on there own , and who wont need 24/7 handholding. or you could go as far as puting two boxes on there desk. Linux runs nicly on old hardware , you must have some setting somewhere , just try to add as much ram , However with xwindows you will want something more powerfull than a 486 , go for pentuims and just add more ram. I have two cpus in the office , the third and fourth sort of fell by the wayside , It seams that once a year while I am overseas , Windows screws up , and needs to be reinstalled. I am currently working on setting up a server here with linux on it for the data. next as soon as I sort out the software issues , i will add/convert to linux. With the dual boot feature , I can run both , and slowly move the apps over to linux. I set up an old 486/66 with 8m of ram as a samba server , and was shocked at how well it preformed. It was chioking on win 3.1 , but runs linux very nicely , However I wouoldent dream of running xwindows on it , So I'll make use of it elswere. Bottom line , linux takes more time to set up , but you end up with better stability . Give it a try. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============4970403105374358845==-- From EGRETLURES@kricket.net Sat Nov 28 16:28:19 1998 From: EGRETLURES@kricket.net To: users@lists.opensuse.org Subject: RE: [SuSE Linux] Help in Norfolk, Va Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 10:28:19 -0600 Message-ID: <000001be1aec$1bb14900$51c3a1d0@egret1> In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19981128101145.00e72ccc@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5772329669005423025==" --===============5772329669005423025== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here's an article about a small shop providing preconfigured Linux for the home user. There must be more somewhere. http://www.andovern= ews.com/cgi-bin/news_column.pl?195> -----Original Message----- From: owner-suse-linux-e@suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e@suse.com] On Behalf Of Samy Elashmawy Sent: Saturday, November 28, 1998 4:12 AM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Help in Norfolk, Va >perhaps can't really get themselves into quite the same trouble as with >Windows.... ? Or should I wait another year or two....? > At least they won't be able to load those pesky games. I would sugest you go for it on a trial basis with a few users who you feel can pretty nmuch leqarn on there own , and who wont need 24/7 handholding. or you could go as far as puting two boxes on there desk. Linux runs nicly on old hardware , you must have some setting somewhere , just try to add as much ram , However with xwindows you will want something more powerfull than a 486 , go for pentuims and just add more ram. I have two cpus in the office , the third and fourth sort of fell by the wayside , It seams that once a year while I am overseas , Windows screws up , and needs to be reinstalled. I am currently working on setting up a server here with linux on it for the data. next as soon as I sort out the software issues , i will add/convert to linux. With the dual boot feature , I can run both , and slowly move the apps over to linux. I set up an old 486/66 with 8m of ram as a samba server , and was shocked at how well it preformed. It was chioking on win 3.1 , but runs linux very nicely , However I wouoldent dream of running xwindows on it , So I'll make use of it elswere. Bottom line , linux takes more time to set up , but you end up with better stability . Give it a try. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --===============5772329669005423025==--